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January 06, 2012, 12:10:33 AM
#56
We'll know once we get there  Smiley
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January 05, 2012, 10:06:57 PM
#55
I only read through the first and last page but has anyone mentioned the whole Mayan end of the world thing is made up? Yes they didn't extend their calendar beyond 2012, but they didn't mean anything by it- it just had to stop somewhere. The mayans have no mentioning of a doomsday in connection to 2012. 2012 will be the same as every other year- people live, die, the world keeps spinning.
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January 05, 2012, 08:12:31 PM
#54
I don't know what's going to happen but I know we live in the most interesting times and more than ever is going on week by week in our world. Look up Terrence McKenna's novelty theory if you want to wind yourselves up a bit more.

From Wikipedia:
"Timewave zero" is a numerological formula that purports to calculate the ebb and flow of "novelty", defined as increase over time in the universe's interconnectedness, or organized complexity.[75] According to Terence McKenna, the universe has a teleological attractor at the end of time that increases interconnectedness, eventually reaching a singularity of infinite complexity in 2012, at which point anything and everything imaginable will occur simultaneously. He conceived this idea over several years in the early to mid-1970s while using psilocybin mushrooms and DMT."


From Swishercutter:

"Hallucinations are not to be trusted."  


We will know in December when they come up with another "correction" that they are wrong...just like all the other "prophecies".  There have been people with the end is near signs for quite some time.




While hallucinations are not to be trusted, the relationship between your interpretation of a hallucination and it's effects on your mind/body should be, as this just goes back to self-reflection or introspection.

Whether or not a hallucination is "real" (there are arguments to be made on both ends), it's effects on you are very real in a self-evident kind of way, and you can learn one hell of a lot from this.



Interpretations of hallucinations should never be considered valid basis for what is going to happen 40 years down the road...especially when there is no real evidence of it.  At this point I am hoping for a mass extinction...I just hope it culls the herd in a positive way.


edit:  I will also add this http://www.randi.org/encyclopedia/appendix3.html

Unless you recognize the holographic nature of the universe (i.e. because universal syntax/law distributes to everything inside it, everything contained in the universe is like a holographic image of the bigger picture).  This is why truth can be established through ratio, the root word of rationale.  You can learn a lot about the universe just by observing yourself through self-reflection and metacognition.
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January 05, 2012, 08:08:37 PM
#53
Yes, the end is nigh. The movie is true, and the world as you know it will come to an end in December 2012.

Things you can do now to make the transition:

- Encourage your MPs, Senators and Representatives to put money into Research and the Sciences. We need spaceships and arks urgently.
- Join a religious organisation (if you're not already, if you are, be sure to attend weekly) to prepare your soul for the challenges ahead.
- Be kind to as many people as you can, for in troubling times, the effort you make now to improve the lives of others may save your life then.
- Get to know your community and neighbourhood, as they will go through the same challenges as you.
- Share your knowledge freely and to the world, so that others too may be better prepared. It will be lonely without fellow survivors.
- Remain Calm.
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January 05, 2012, 07:13:49 PM
#52
I don't know what's going to happen but I know we live in the most interesting times and more than ever is going on week by week in our world. Look up Terrence McKenna's novelty theory if you want to wind yourselves up a bit more.

From Wikipedia:
"Timewave zero" is a numerological formula that purports to calculate the ebb and flow of "novelty", defined as increase over time in the universe's interconnectedness, or organized complexity.[75] According to Terence McKenna, the universe has a teleological attractor at the end of time that increases interconnectedness, eventually reaching a singularity of infinite complexity in 2012, at which point anything and everything imaginable will occur simultaneously. He conceived this idea over several years in the early to mid-1970s while using psilocybin mushrooms and DMT."


From Swishercutter:

"Hallucinations are not to be trusted."  


We will know in December when they come up with another "correction" that they are wrong...just like all the other "prophecies".  There have been people with the end is near signs for quite some time.




While hallucinations are not to be trusted, the relationship between your interpretation of a hallucination and it's effects on your mind/body should be, as this just goes back to self-reflection or introspection.

Whether or not a hallucination is "real" (there are arguments to be made on both ends), it's effects on you are very real in a self-evident kind of way, and you can learn one hell of a lot from this.



Interpretations of hallucinations should never be considered valid basis for what is going to happen 40 years down the road...especially when there is no real evidence of it.  At this point I am hoping for a mass extinction...I just hope it culls the herd in a positive way.


edit:  I will also add this http://www.randi.org/encyclopedia/appendix3.html
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January 05, 2012, 07:09:48 PM
#51
I don't know what's going to happen but I know we live in the most interesting times and more than ever is going on week by week in our world. Look up Terrence McKenna's novelty theory if you want to wind yourselves up a bit more.

From Wikipedia:
"Timewave zero" is a numerological formula that purports to calculate the ebb and flow of "novelty", defined as increase over time in the universe's interconnectedness, or organized complexity.[75] According to Terence McKenna, the universe has a teleological attractor at the end of time that increases interconnectedness, eventually reaching a singularity of infinite complexity in 2012, at which point anything and everything imaginable will occur simultaneously. He conceived this idea over several years in the early to mid-1970s while using psilocybin mushrooms and DMT."


From Swishercutter:

"Hallucinations are not to be trusted." 


We will know in December when they come up with another "correction" that they are wrong...just like all the other "prophecies".  There have been people with the end is near signs for quite some time.




While hallucinations are not to be trusted, the relationship between your interpretation of a hallucination and it's effects on your mind/body should be, as this just goes back to self-reflection or introspection.

Whether or not a hallucination is "real" (there are arguments to be made on both ends), it's effects on you are very real in a self-evident kind of way, and you can learn one hell of a lot from this.
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January 05, 2012, 07:03:03 PM
#50
I don't know what's going to happen but I know we live in the most interesting times and more than ever is going on week by week in our world. Look up Terrence McKenna's novelty theory if you want to wind yourselves up a bit more.

From Wikipedia:
"Timewave zero" is a numerological formula that purports to calculate the ebb and flow of "novelty", defined as increase over time in the universe's interconnectedness, or organized complexity.[75] According to Terence McKenna, the universe has a teleological attractor at the end of time that increases interconnectedness, eventually reaching a singularity of infinite complexity in 2012, at which point anything and everything imaginable will occur simultaneously. He conceived this idea over several years in the early to mid-1970s while using psilocybin mushrooms and DMT."


From Swishercutter:

"Hallucinations are not to be trusted." 


We will know in December when they come up with another "correction" that they are wrong...just like all the other "prophecies".  There have been people with the end is near signs for quite some time.


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January 05, 2012, 06:18:15 PM
#49
I don't know what's going to happen but I know we live in the most interesting times and more than ever is going on week by week in our world. Look up Terrence McKenna's novelty theory if you want to wind yourselves up a bit more.
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January 05, 2012, 05:48:28 PM
#48
i cant believe i never heard of this wow
Do you even own a computer?  This has been in the news for 15 years.. But mostly the past 5 because the date is drawing closer.
Maybe the Mayans just got tired of planning thousands of years of calendars. Tongue

It's been in the news for 12yrs...right after Y2K didn't happen and all the doomsayers needed another unfounded fear to spread. 

(for more info read the link in my previous post)
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January 05, 2012, 05:24:41 PM
#47
Have watched the movie "2012" months ago. We're almost there. Could this really happen?
Could what really happen, a movie about a cluster of natural disasters?


Go watch the movie.


Or don't, terrible movie.  And no the world isn't gonna end just cause the mayans didn't make an infinite calendar. 
actually, that calendar everyone is banging on about - actually is an AZTEC artifact, and not a calendar, either....
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January 05, 2012, 04:55:03 PM
#46
i cant believe i never heard of this wow
Do you even own a computer?  This has been in the news for 15 years.. But mostly the past 5 because the date is drawing closer.
Maybe the Mayans just got tired of planning thousands of years of calendars. Tongue
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January 05, 2012, 02:55:47 PM
#45
Well, the world could end like this...

Remembering the end of the world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGCqcckYvDQ&feature=related
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January 05, 2012, 02:43:28 PM
#44
I'm holding an end of the word party in December. But will the world end? Are you fukin kidding me?  Roll Eyes

"World ending" is just a dumb phrase in general  Smiley
That's a good point. The world won't end for.... I don't know, billions of years? Although, that was post #666 for me. Coincidence?
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January 05, 2012, 02:39:19 PM
#43
I'm holding an end of the word party in December. But will the world end? Are you fukin kidding me?  Roll Eyes

"World ending" is just a dumb phrase in general  Smiley
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January 05, 2012, 02:34:02 PM
#42
I'm holding an end of the word party in December. But will the world end? Are you fukin kidding me?  Roll Eyes
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January 05, 2012, 02:28:44 PM
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Bingo.  When you spend enough time looking at the sky, even without a telescope if you aren't presently distracted by all the high tech shit in Western society (live for a few decades in a 3rd world country where there are no city lights clouding the sky), you'll see things a different way.  Mayans, Egyptians, and Sumerians got pretty goddamn accurate with their "astrology" if you ask me.

It's like if I were to say I can't see with my ears.  Ask a blind person.



Please feel free to enlighten us, and try to refrain from analogies like "seeing with your ears".  And don't bring older cultures into it, back in that time period astrology and astronomy were linked and almost interchangeable in their usage.  

That's not astronomy.  It's astrology, astronomy is science and astrology is voodoo.  

I'd bet money astrology isn't bogus.

And, I'd bet a lot of it.

Also, how do you plan to win a bet proving astrology isn't bogus when astrology itself is a belief system, and can't really be disproven or proven (like religion).  

"Seeing with your ears" was chosen because that's essentially what happens subjectively.  I don't care that ears are not eyes.  Blind people adapt and they begin to use their ears for spatial recognition.  Do you think thoughts are also non-visual experiences?  I don't know about you, but I can see my thoughts clearly and vividly, especially if I focus on them.  Senses are interconnected.  Hold your nose and eat something; I bet it doesn't taste the same.  Or, notice how people turn down the music in their car when they are looking for addresses.  Why would people do this if hearing didn't influence your vision?

I'm not sure why you brought up religion.  I think you were trying to indirectly suggest that religions are based upon no evidence.  Even if that was true (check out East Asian religions, they are extremely scientific), not only is faith still the common denominator between science and religion -- or astronomy and astrology -- you can never say "prove" soundly with ANY inductive method of any kind.  But, I've had direct knowledge/experience of "God" (for lack of a better word), and I can't prove that to you.  It was self-evident.  The thing about evidence-based beliefs is this:  What one knows he cannot prove, and what one can prove he cannot know.



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January 05, 2012, 12:12:47 PM
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i cant believe i never heard of this wow
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January 05, 2012, 02:50:57 AM
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Bingo.  When you spend enough time looking at the sky, even without a telescope if you aren't presently distracted by all the high tech shit in Western society (live for a few decades in a 3rd world country where there are no city lights clouding the sky), you'll see things a different way.  Mayans, Egyptians, and Sumerians got pretty goddamn accurate with their "astrology" if you ask me.

It's like if I were to say I can't see with my ears.  Ask a blind person.



Please feel free to enlighten us, and try to refrain from analogies like "seeing with your ears".  And don't bring older cultures into it, back in that time period astrology and astronomy were linked and almost interchangeable in their usage.  

That's not astronomy.  It's astrology, astronomy is science and astrology is voodoo.  

I'd bet money astrology isn't bogus.

And, I'd bet a lot of it.

Also, how do you plan to win a bet proving astrology isn't bogus when astrology itself is a belief system, and can't really be disproven or proven (like religion).  
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January 05, 2012, 01:56:21 AM
#38
I'd bet money astrology isn't bogus.

And, I'd bet a lot of it.

Did your horoscope tell you that you would come into a lot of money or something?

Honestly... it's utter hogwash! Nothing more than pompous pseudoscience. There is nothing that astrology explains that astronomy, a proper scientific field, cannot explain with greater clarity and precision, minus all the supernatural drippings.

Astrologist, yup that's what i mean, the science/study of stars.

Astrology is not what you mean.

Astrology is all about crap like horoscopes and predicting effects on the earth caused by the orientation of the stars and the constellations and blah blah blah. As in, 'you are especially fertile on the 3rd tuesday of february because the constellation of orion intersects perpendicularly with your ball sac' ... etc.

Astronomy is the scientific study of celestial bodies, you know... with telescopes, and math, and all those fancy supercomputers.
Astrologists on the other hand have crystal balls, tarot cards and jackasses who claim to have 'psychic' powers.

Astrology isn't just fortune telling.

Bingo.  When you spend enough time looking at the sky, even without a telescope if you aren't presently distracted by all the high tech shit in Western society (live for a few decades in a 3rd world country where there are no city lights clouding the sky), you'll see things a different way.  Mayans, Egyptians, and Sumerians got pretty goddamn accurate with their "astrology" if you ask me.

It's like if I were to say I can't see with my ears.  Ask a blind person.

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January 04, 2012, 11:22:12 PM
#37
I'd bet money astrology isn't bogus.

And, I'd bet a lot of it.

Did your horoscope tell you that you would come into a lot of money or something?

Honestly... it's utter hogwash! Nothing more than pompous pseudoscience. There is nothing that astrology explains that astronomy, a proper scientific field, cannot explain with greater clarity and precision, minus all the supernatural drippings.

Astrologist, yup that's what i mean, the science/study of stars.

Astrology is not what you mean.

Astrology is all about crap like horoscopes and predicting effects on the earth caused by the orientation of the stars and the constellations and blah blah blah. As in, 'you are especially fertile on the 3rd tuesday of february because the constellation of orion intersects perpendicularly with your ball sac' ... etc.

Astronomy is the scientific study of celestial bodies, you know... with telescopes, and math, and all those fancy supercomputers.
Astrologists on the other hand have crystal balls, tarot cards and jackasses who claim to have 'psychic' powers.

Astrology isn't just fortune telling.
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