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Topic: 2013-03-08 Forbes/Matonis First Bitcoin Hedge Fund Announced (Read 5084 times)

legendary
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at least not gamble in a way you and I can understand...
vip
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Could somebody explain what this fund is doing in simple words? They took 2M5€ and bought Bitcoin with it? That cannot be it...
Basically IMHO they would have to act as kind of pass-trough for Bitcoin buying and selling. Any details available? When is (or did) their money gonna hit the exchange(s)?

They have been acquiring BTC over the last 6-9 months or even earlier, but they wouldn't say their entry price. I'm fairly certain that their average is sub-$15. This is just the first time they've talked about it for a formal announcement. The $3.2 million is an estimate based on current BTC assets of 80,000 at $40:1 BTC exchange rate.

A hedgefund is gambling? Shouldn't they normally try to be "risk-neutral" and go for the safe buck?
Like Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers?
legendary
Activity: 1600
Merit: 1014
Could somebody explain what this fund is doing in simple words? They took 2M5€ and bought Bitcoin with it? That cannot be it...
Basically IMHO they would have to act as kind of pass-trough for Bitcoin buying and selling. Any details available? When is (or did) their money gonna hit the exchange(s)?

They have been acquiring BTC over the last 6-9 months or even earlier, but they wouldn't say their entry price. I'm fairly certain that their average is sub-$15. This is just the first time they've talked about it for a formal announcement. The $3.2 million is an estimate based on current BTC assets of 80,000 at $40:1 BTC exchange rate.

A hedgefund is gambling? Shouldn't they normally try to be "risk-neutral" and go for the safe buck?
legendary
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1davout
Great article!
Guess Matonis changed his mind about the whole regulation thing Wink
legendary
Activity: 1708
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Could somebody explain what this fund is doing in simple words? They took 2M5€ and bought Bitcoin with it? That cannot be it...
Basically IMHO they would have to act as kind of pass-trough for Bitcoin buying and selling. Any details available? When is (or did) their money gonna hit the exchange(s)?

They have been acquiring BTC over the last 6-9 months or even earlier, but they wouldn't say their entry price. I'm fairly certain that their average is sub-$15. This is just the first time they've talked about it for a formal announcement. The $3.2 million is an estimate based on current BTC assets of 80,000 at $40:1 BTC exchange rate.
does that mean they stopped buying now?
legendary
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Merit: 1002
Could somebody explain what this fund is doing in simple words? They took 2M5€ and bought Bitcoin with it? That cannot be it...
Basically IMHO they would have to act as kind of pass-trough for Bitcoin buying and selling. Any details available? When is (or did) their money gonna hit the exchange(s)?

They have been acquiring BTC over the last 6-9 months or even earlier, but they wouldn't say their entry price. I'm fairly certain that their average is sub-$15. This is just the first time they've talked about it for a formal announcement. The $3.2 million is an estimate based on current BTC assets of 80,000 at $40:1 BTC exchange rate.

aha, so they're the ones. lol  Cheesy
sr. member
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Could somebody explain what this fund is doing in simple words? They took 2M5€ and bought Bitcoin with it? That cannot be it...
Basically IMHO they would have to act as kind of pass-trough for Bitcoin buying and selling. Any details available? When is (or did) their money gonna hit the exchange(s)?

They have been acquiring BTC over the last 6-9 months or even earlier, but they wouldn't say their entry price. I'm fairly certain that their average is sub-$15. This is just the first time they've talked about it for a formal announcement. The $3.2 million is an estimate based on current BTC assets of 80,000 at $40:1 BTC exchange rate.
legendary
Activity: 1600
Merit: 1014
Could somebody explain what this fund is doing in simple words? They took 2M5€ and bought Bitcoin with it? That cannot be it...
Basically IMHO they would have to act as kind of pass-trough for Bitcoin buying and selling. Any details available? When is (or did) their money gonna hit the exchange(s)?
They will act as a regulated, intuitive and safe proxy for rich investors to buy bitcoins. Bought bitcoins will be stored in a TrueCrypt container.

Okay - hence the 100k$ min. That's for setting up all the secure storage things etc... What's the 3.2M then?
vip
Activity: 756
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Could somebody explain what this fund is doing in simple words? They took 2M5€ and bought Bitcoin with it? That cannot be it...
Basically IMHO they would have to act as kind of pass-trough for Bitcoin buying and selling. Any details available? When is (or did) their money gonna hit the exchange(s)?
They will act as a regulated, intuitive and safe proxy for rich investors to buy bitcoins. Bought bitcoins will be stored in a TrueCrypt container.
legendary
Activity: 1600
Merit: 1014
Could somebody explain what this fund is doing in simple words? They took 2M5€ and bought Bitcoin with it? That cannot be it...
Basically IMHO they would have to act as kind of pass-trough for Bitcoin buying and selling. Any details available? When is (or did) their money gonna hit the exchange(s)?
donator
Activity: 1736
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
I can just picture some Wall Street veteran hedgie reading this article and seeing all the steps needed to protect a bitcoin investment and then after looking up how Shamir's Secret Sharing Service works thinking that maybe March 2013 would be a good month to enter retirement before it gets just too complicated.

Hahahaha man that cracked me up.  Cheesy
The timing is auspicious. Bitcoin could hasten the end of crony capitalism as the rats jump off the burning ship and Bitcoin becomes a pro tip for the flying monkey right.
legendary
Activity: 2156
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Let's help ukyo, MP, and burnside convince these big investors to put massive quantities of cash into the securities trading on their exchanges!

Regulated hedge fund investing on fly-by-night illegal securities exchanges? Right...

It's only illegal when you get caught and don't pay the lawyer caste their massive due sum...

Let us act as if we are free, and expect the rest of the world to follow our example.

That is the gift of Satoshi!
legendary
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Monero Core Team
No USA allowed.    Shocked

... but in this case Canada is allowed since it is not treated as the 51st state.
legendary
Activity: 1358
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Let's help ukyo, MP, and burnside convince these big investors to put massive quantities of cash into the securities trading on their exchanges!

Regulated hedge fund investing on fly-by-night illegal securities exchanges? Right...
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Let's help ukyo, MP, and burnside convince these big investors to put massive quantities of cash into the securities trading on their exchanges!
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
I can just picture some Wall Street veteran hedgie reading this article and seeing all the steps needed to protect a bitcoin investment and then after looking up how Shamir's Secret Sharing Service works thinking that maybe March 2013 would be a good month to enter retirement before it gets just too complicated.

Hahahaha man that cracked me up.  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1708
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legendary
Activity: 1708
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legendary
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I can just picture some Wall Street veteran hedgie reading this article and seeing all the steps needed to protect a bitcoin investment and then after looking up how Shamir's Secret Sharing scheme works thinking that maybe March 2013 would be a good month to enter retirement before it gets just too complicated.
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