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Topic: 2013-04-17 americanbanker.com - Governments Must Co-Opt Bitcoin to Avert Disaste - page 2. (Read 3635 times)

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Shamantastic!
This wouldn't happen to be related to that autistic asshole Anonymint, would it?  Seems to reek of it, in writing style, and "mint".

He seems to be deeply related to bitmint.com, for what it's worth.

When I first ran into Anonymint, I was thinking back on a time when we first met Synaptic... *sigh*
Checked out lots of resources for Bitmint but they all seem ethereal and derpy.
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This wouldn't happen to be related to that autistic asshole Anonymint, would it?  Seems to reek of it, in writing style, and "mint".

He seems to be deeply related to bitmint.com, for what it's worth.
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This wouldn't happen to be related to that autistic asshole Anonymint, would it?  Seems to reek of it, in writing style, and "mint".
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I really love the fact that after 2 years of addictively reading this forum, I can now read a mainstream so called "high brow" financial article such as this and mentally rip their uninformed nonsence to SHREDS  Grin

Thank you bitcoin

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The policy conclusion is clear. Bitcoin should be disqualified as a functional tradable currency. However, a properly regulated, digitized option for the prevailing currency should be rushed to market. If not, Bitcoin will reign, suck in an enormous amount of wealth, and eventually implode, unleashing a financial tsunami of unimagined proportions.

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Bitcoin is bad news on many levels. The most obvious concern was proven after the Cyprus crisis erupted: stability. What if people start lending and borrowing bitcoins? If your debt is denominated in the digital currency, and then its price soars, your burden in dollars will be off the chart. How would the debtors ever pay back their debt if overnight it multiplies by a factor of three?


Muppets !  Shocked
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What a great sentence.  It's kind of indecent to say something like this.   I think it's the first time I actually read it in such a blunt formulation.

I see this as a bookend to a quote from 1906:

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In 1906, The New York Chamber of Commerce charged a special committee to report on how a central bank might work. The committee was composed of bankers, naturally. John Claflin, chairman, was a member of the Jekyll Island Club. Jekyll Island was where the conspiracy against the American people, The Federal Reserve, was hatched in 1908. The vice-chairman of this special committee was Frank Vanderlip, one of the architects of the Federal Reserve.

In the section titled “Advantages of a Central Bank”, we find a rather stunning admission about what bankers of all ages desire:

   
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”By the control of its rate of interest and of its issues of notes it would be able to exert great influence upon the money market and upon public opinion. Such power is not now possessed by any institution in the United States. “

    The Currency Report By The  Special Committee Of The  Chamber Of Commerce  Of The  State Of New York

    October 4, 1906

Judging by google’s results, no one in the past 100 years has paid any attention to the above quote.

What Bankers Want
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He's saying that bitcoin is deflationary and therefore not good for the economy, but people will choose it over government money if given the freedom to do so, and therefore needs to be kept out of their hands for their own good.

What a great sentence.  It's kind of indecent to say something like this.   I think it's the first time I actually read it in such a blunt formulation.
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Hang on.  Isn't he saying:  "bitcoin is a great technology but unfortunately it's not ours.  Therefore we need to make it illegal so that only WE can use it." ??

That's exactly what he's saying.
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He's saying that bitcoin is deflationary and therefore not good for the economy, but people will choose it over government money if given the freedom to do so, and therefore needs to be kept out of their hands for their own good.

Marc Hochstein, who is very supportive of bitcoin, is the Executive Editor of American Banker:

http://www.americanbanker.com/contactus/?site_id=ab

Perhaps we could contact him and tell him what's in the article.
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I don't think the author know what co-opt means.
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There are some great quotes in this article:

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But when the Cypriot banks unilaterally declared that a big chunk of all deposits accounts would be snatched, the premise of deposit security came up for re-evaluation; and not only in Cyprus and in Europe, but also in the U.S. and elsewhere.

Indeed.

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The technology is there. Bit money is ready to roll. The market has just opened: The meteoric rise in the exchange rate of Bitcoin (even after a sharp correction) is a shouting proof that people are eager for a means to store, guard and secure their financial wealth without using the banks as safe keepers.

I agree!


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The other option is to ride the tide. Bitcoin has flushed out the public readiness to deal with bits as carriers of tradable currency.

The policy conclusion is clear. Bitcoin should be disqualified as a functional tradable currency. However, a properly regulated, digitized option for the prevailing currency should be rushed to market. If not, Bitcoin will reign, suck in an enormous amount of wealth, and eventually implode, unleashing a financial tsunami of unimagined proportions.

Hang on.  Isn't he saying:  "bitcoin is a great technology but unfortunately it's not ours.  Therefore we need to make it illegal so that only WE can use it." ??

Exactly what I was thinking.  Somebody doesn't like competition...
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There are some great quotes in this article:

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But when the Cypriot banks unilaterally declared that a big chunk of all deposits accounts would be snatched, the premise of deposit security came up for re-evaluation; and not only in Cyprus and in Europe, but also in the U.S. and elsewhere.

Indeed.

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The technology is there. Bit money is ready to roll. The market has just opened: The meteoric rise in the exchange rate of Bitcoin (even after a sharp correction) is a shouting proof that people are eager for a means to store, guard and secure their financial wealth without using the banks as safe keepers.

I agree!


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The other option is to ride the tide. Bitcoin has flushed out the public readiness to deal with bits as carriers of tradable currency.

The policy conclusion is clear. Bitcoin should be disqualified as a functional tradable currency. However, a properly regulated, digitized option for the prevailing currency should be rushed to market. If not, Bitcoin will reign, suck in an enormous amount of wealth, and eventually implode, unleashing a financial tsunami of unimagined proportions.

Hang on.  Isn't he saying:  "bitcoin is a great technology but unfortunately it's not ours.  Therefore we need to make it illegal so that only WE can use it." ??

Exactly! Who is the editor at American Banker that was asleep when this passed through his inbox?
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If you want to walk on water, get out of the boat
This article is exactly why we need bitcoin: to make sure such people cannot control our money
legendary
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There are some great quotes in this article:

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But when the Cypriot banks unilaterally declared that a big chunk of all deposits accounts would be snatched, the premise of deposit security came up for re-evaluation; and not only in Cyprus and in Europe, but also in the U.S. and elsewhere.

Indeed.

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The technology is there. Bit money is ready to roll. The market has just opened: The meteoric rise in the exchange rate of Bitcoin (even after a sharp correction) is a shouting proof that people are eager for a means to store, guard and secure their financial wealth without using the banks as safe keepers.

I agree!


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The other option is to ride the tide. Bitcoin has flushed out the public readiness to deal with bits as carriers of tradable currency.

The policy conclusion is clear. Bitcoin should be disqualified as a functional tradable currency. However, a properly regulated, digitized option for the prevailing currency should be rushed to market. If not, Bitcoin will reign, suck in an enormous amount of wealth, and eventually implode, unleashing a financial tsunami of unimagined proportions.

Hang on.  Isn't he saying:  "bitcoin is a great technology but unfortunately it's not ours.  Therefore we need to make it illegal so that only WE can use it." ??
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Terrible article. The gov't will never back a currency that can't be centrally controlled. For better or worse, bitcoin is here to stay.
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Bitcoin is bad news on many levels. The most obvious concern was proven after the Cyprus crisis erupted: stability. What if people start lending and borrowing bitcoins?

Prophetic words. Banker bitches feel their end is coming.
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Shamantastic!
Check the 4th paragraph:
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Bitcoin, and digital money in general, are made up of a bit-string that carries value and identity intrinsically – just via the sequence of the bits, independent of any media these bits are expressed in.
The author simply read the name Bit and coin and thought "hey, I've heard about bits before, they are used in computers in some way".

This sounds to me like the author tries to say the Bitcoin is "Bits are used in coins", with other words 100% ignorance or 100% lack of interest in finding out what Bitcoin is or what it isn't. Not worth your read...  Tongue

Or 100% misdirection for his/her(Nancy?) audience.
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What else would you expect from a such source as americanbanker.com ?
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Check the 4th paragraph:
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Bitcoin, and digital money in general, are made up of a bit-string that carries value and identity intrinsically – just via the sequence of the bits, independent of any media these bits are expressed in.
The author simply read the name Bit and coin and thought "hey, I've heard about bits before, they are used in computers in some way".

This sounds to me like the author tries to say the Bitcoin is "Bits are used in coins", with other words 100% ignorance or 100% lack of interest in finding out what Bitcoin is or what it isn't. Not worth your read...  Tongue
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