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Topic: 2013-12-10 Bitcoin Proves The Libertarian Idea Of Paradise Would Be Hell On Eart - page 3. (Read 4370 times)

legendary
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Basically, the Bitcoin technology does not address the issue of unequal distribution of wealth. Or does it? If not, what can be done about that?

Education.

And not just any education, I learned economics all through my school years and never once did anything we cover monetary theory. I also frequently consumed any economics or financial oriented journalism or documentary, and only through youtube did I ever find anything that filled the gap (Neil Ferguson's "Ascent of Money"). And even that covered it from a very status quo sort of angle.

And a complete cultural change is what's really needed, because this culture encourages everyone to be superficial, acquisitive, accredited/authorised, vain and introspective ("selfie", ugh), and dependent (both on government and on social groups). It discourages the self-determined (in both thought and profession), critical thinking, independence, and above all questioning authorised or established views. And this culture achieves this result through the newspapers, history books, school textbooks, school curriculum, advertising, television and movies, the list probably contains even more subtle examples than I can contemplate.

Really, the current class of rich plutocrats are in that position through a mixture of nepotism, gangsterism, and not least the careful propagandising and cultivating of this era's version of the serf class. Bitcoin plutocrats will be mostly made up of people that used self-determination of one form or another to attain that status, so their values won't be quite so easily corrupted as they got there through merit. And those who adopt cryptocurrency last will still benefit from some inevitable cultural changes: hard money will bring better quality of goods, more political power to the individual, improved long-term capacity to save, more transparent finances from governmental bodies and businesses, plus a whole host of ancillary benefits from taking the model of a decentralised database validated by proof of work and applying it to other aspects of the way communities and societies organise themselves (this will be the absolute game changer, our future lives will be very different using this data storage tool that we've been gifted).

It's a shame that these journalists are throwing fits of luddite rage, instead of learning and disseminating about how this will eventually be nothing short of a technologically driven revolution. But then again, I guess their response is truly representative of the worst aspects of this culture that I disparage above, they'll not be fit for such a change until they realise that their position in life is no longer as certain as they once became so comfortable with.
newbie
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Quote from: Business Insider
If Bitcoin was a country — Bitcoinistan? — it would be like Somalia.

It would have the size of principality of sealand you mean  
sr. member
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I like the argument they're making although I don't agree with. I've always wondered if true anarchy would be like Somalia, and if development and prosperity necessarily needs a state or a proto-state like big corporations.

When reading the argument about assassinations though it made me laugh, because governments are doing that already, probably also big corporations. And personally I don't like it more if a state commits murder than if a wealthy private individual commits murder, it is both a gross and a crass way of handling things in addition to being straight out despicable.

Another interesting thing is inequality. In my opinion extreme inequality often leads to disastrous consequences, regardless of the political regime. I mean, Bitcoin is great for redistributing wealth to a younger, more tech-savvy, and in my impression more liberal (in a general context, not the American political party) generation - which is great. But even so power corrupts, and being wealthy might make these early adopter types into a new type of plutocrat that become as bad if not worse than the current one.

Basically, the Bitcoin technology does not address the issue of unequal distribution of wealth. Or does it? If not, what can be done about that?
legendary
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Unfortunately, that experience looks like a total nightmare. It's characterized by radical instability, chaos, the rise of a boss-class of criminals who assassinate people they don't like, and a mass handover of wealth to a minority even smaller than the 1% that currently lauds it in the United States.

1. Instability - was there any?
2. Chaos - not much right now
3. Criminal class - I would say that the share of criminals among the bictoiners is much lower than that among the bankers.
4. Wealthy minority - Well... don't get jealous. Had you purchased the BTCs when they were $0.06 a piece, then you'd have been wealthy too.
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This article feels like it's 2012 all over again.
Faith in humanity restored after reading the comments.
legendary
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Sounds like a threat. "If this succeeds, we can make sure you're all begging for the rich plutocracy to come back and save you [from the warlord criminal class acting under orders, financing and resourcing from the rich plutocrats themselves]"

That sort of argument forgets that these people (plutocrats and crimewave instigators alike) won't be as well resourced as they'd like to assume.
sr. member
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You are a geek if you are too early to the party!
While their reasoning is a little simplistic, they do have a point! ;-)
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http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-libertarian-paradise-would-be-hell-on-earth-2013-12

Quote from: Business Insider
So the Bitcoin experience gives us a glimpse of Libertarian paradise: What life would be like with as little government interference as possible, in a market free of burdensome laws and taxes.

Unfortunately, that experience looks like a total nightmare. It's characterized by radical instability, chaos, the rise of a boss-class of criminals who assassinate people they don't like, and a mass handover of wealth to a minority even smaller than the 1% that currently lauds it in the United States.

If Bitcoin was a country — Bitcoinistan? — it would be like Somalia.
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