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Topic: 2015 The year of the Ponzi, BE WARNED! - page 3. (Read 2673 times)

newbie
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January 16, 2015, 01:11:11 AM
#36
For example;

If someone invests $1000 and the scheme runs for a year, they will get 12 payments of $100 (10% per month for 12 months) so they will now have $1200. They would have made $200 profit.


Is it just me, or does that not make sense?

I'll try and explain it better.

A Ponzi offers a return of 10% per month.
A person decides to invest $1000.
If the Ponzi pays out for 12 months, the investor would have been paid $1200 in interest.
But they invested $1000, so they actual profit is only $200.

$1200 (interest) - $1000 (investment) = $200 (profit)

But most Ponzi wont last 12 months, most will not last more than a couple of weeks.

Hope this makes it helps.
hero member
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January 15, 2015, 10:04:12 AM
#35
I just hope the ponzi phase gets over soon on bitcointalk. Else, it will get crazy here .

IIRC, the gambling section was full of ponzi threads as well somewhere around Feb 2014, and the hype died down in a month or so. And it now comes back again, and will probably come back again and again...  Sad
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legendary
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cryptojunk bag holder
January 15, 2015, 09:40:20 AM
#34
Not true.

If 10 people invest $1000 each and the promoter runs off with the money, everyone loses their money.

And even if the promoter pays out interest, they will have to make 10 payments before the investor breaks even.

If people want to invest, it's their money they can do what they want with it, but there is no such thing as a honest Ponzi; they are all scams.

There are honest ponzi games. If the operator declares that his/her game is a ponzi and the last investors will lose money, then every participants will know what going to happen and then they can  invest accordingly. Sites where the operator babling about external profit sources and investments are the really dangerous ponzis.
Honest ponzis? an oxymoron, imo. You do not know when the cut off will happen, either you will be one of the lasts to receive something (you then call it honest) or one of many not to receive (usual pattern, you will then call it scam). what else to explain?
full member
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January 15, 2015, 09:19:10 AM
#33
Yes ponzi's are to unpredictable. I wouldn't suggest plaing in their schemes
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 15, 2015, 07:54:19 AM
#32
I have burnt my fingers on several different ponzi's over the year, but it's that burning sensation you kind of like
In real life I am quite an adrenaline junkie, so that explains why I get that sensation. ^HeH^

When you get out in time, and you made big profits, it feels great! Then you start to think about all the other people after you, who has to loose for you to win, and the guilt start to eat you up.

For this reason, I donated all my profits from ponzi's to charities. ^Frown^



legendary
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Crypto Swap Exchange
January 15, 2015, 07:07:23 AM
#32
everything will collapse, so does ponzi
But, i feel like stealing coins from someone else in ponzi scheme.

So, it's better to move ponzi to their own section & stop "invest" anything at ponzi
newbie
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January 15, 2015, 06:50:15 AM
#31
This fraudulent investment PONZI brings to SHAME Gambling section! Please remove it!
sr. member
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January 15, 2015, 03:58:58 AM
#30
It's so awful that this year is started full of ponzi's and more over, the bitcoin value is like falling like a rock in the deep water.
How are the prices affected by more  number of ponzis around ?
sr. member
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January 15, 2015, 03:40:49 AM
#29
IT's real

They all dream to be like Cryptodouble Smiley


They will run  Grin
full member
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January 15, 2015, 03:25:13 AM
#28
I just hope the ponzi phase gets over soon on bitcointalk. Else, it will get crazy here .
legendary
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January 15, 2015, 02:59:06 AM
#27
I thought I would give a brief explanation of what a Ponzi scheme is and the dangers in investing your money in them.

What is a Ponzi scheme?

A Ponzi, HYIP or pyramid scheme are generally promoted as investments, sometimes the people running them will say they are investing in the Stock Market or selling a new hot product or on this forum they will say they are investing in Bitcoin or Mining.

The truth is they are lying and they aren’t investing in anything.

The way Ponzi scheme works is the people running the scheme will ask for an investment and offer a return on that investment, but because they aren’t making any money (by selling something for example) the only way they can pay the interest is by using the money invested.

So for example;

The promoters offers to give a 10% return per month on investments of $1000.

Someone invests $1000 and waits a month.

The promoters takes $100 (10% of $1000) of the original $1000 and gives it back to the investor.

The investor is happy because it seems to be working.

But all the promoter has done is used some of the original $1000 to pay the interest.

So now the promoter has $900 of the original $1000.

If the promoter keeps paying interest on the $1000 he will run out of money in 9 months, since they have already paid the first month interest.
For the scheme to keep working the promotors needs more money from more investors. If no one else invests, the scheme will fail.

At this point though, the promoter will generally ask investors to tell their friends or make posts on forums telling people it works, because the more people who invest the more money there is to pay the interest.

But all Ponzi schemes fail eventually, either when the promoter runs off with the money or the money runs out.

This is the harsh truth of Ponzi schemes.

So why do people invest in them?

Because some people don’t know it’s a scam.

But there are other people who will invest even when they know it’s a scam because if they get in early they can make money.

For example;

If someone invests $1000 and the scheme runs for a year, they will get 12 payments of $100 (10% per month for 12 months) so they will now have $1200. They would have made $200 profit.

But it’s extremely risky since no one knows how long the scheme will last or if the promoter will continue to pay the interest.

Most people have heard of Bernie Madoff who ran a billion dollar Ponzi scheme. The people who invested with him early would have made a good return on their money, but the people who invested near the end would have lost it all.

Ponzi schemes are extremely risky and most people will lost their money.

It’s up to you to decide if the risk is worth it, but be careful.

Great advice, investing in one of these even if early would require you to know enough about the creator to judge that its going to run for a decent length of time.  I doubt there are many people who start these who are worth the risk.
sr. member
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January 15, 2015, 01:37:55 AM
#26
For example;

If someone invests $1000 and the scheme runs for a year, they will get 12 payments of $100 (10% per month for 12 months) so they will now have $1200. They would have made $200 profit.


Is it just me, or does that not make sense?
legendary
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January 15, 2015, 01:23:12 AM
#25
They should just close all ponzi threads, or make a sub section. But, then again you cant save everyone on this forum being scammed.

People will do this regardless, only to see small possible profits.
newbie
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January 15, 2015, 12:24:26 AM
#24
Its getting extremely annoying actually. All these ponzi threads should be moved to a new separate section, the 'gambling' forum became a complete joke.

They could make a child board for Ponzi and HYIP. Although I'm not sure if they makes them liable legally, since it could be seen as condoning illegal activity.
hero member
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January 14, 2015, 02:43:42 PM
#23
Its getting extremely annoying actually. All these ponzi threads should be moved to a new separate section, the 'gambling' forum became a complete joke.
legendary
Activity: 1045
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January 14, 2015, 02:26:11 PM
#22
oh, its the year of the ponzi. Good to know hahaha
sr. member
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January 14, 2015, 02:06:31 PM
#21
It's so awful that this year is started full of ponzi's and more over, the bitcoin value is like falling like a rock in the deep water.
yeah it seems that this year will be even worse than 2014
legendary
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January 14, 2015, 11:07:17 AM
#20
It's so awful that this year is started full of ponzi's and more over, the bitcoin value is like falling like a rock in the deep water.
legendary
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Merit: 1001
January 14, 2015, 10:55:29 AM
#19
Yep. Everybody took huge hits because of this Bitcoin fall. Now They are desperate.

Even bitcoin fall, I never invest into ponzi.
Better gamble it away

I found a ponzi script on GitHub, one of all ponzies posted in this forum use that Undecided

Since bitcoin price is down, ponzi overhelming it




People are playing ponzi because they are desperate. They see the Bitcoin value drop and in panic they invest in these stupid things like Ponzi scene's..

If they keep investing into ponzi, hope they are not commit a suicide if something gone wrong  Grin
member
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January 14, 2015, 10:34:31 AM
#18
Yep. Everybody took huge hits because of this Bitcoin fall. Now They are desperate.
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