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Quote from: cryptokwuk on June 20, 2019, 07:43:14 PM

Seems he has now proven the existence of the trust which holds 1.100.111 BTC and that he will be the owner of those funds within 5 months.
Which also basically proves he actually IS Satoshi.

it proves he made a declaration in court. this is no different than his copyright registration. i could declare that i am satoshi, and that i own the satoshi coins. does that make it true?

he even included caveats so that when he still can't access the funds in 5 months, there's a perfectly good explanation:

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According to the filing, access to the holdings of the trust requires participation of all trustees, at least one of whom he hasn’t been in contact for several years.

https://www.coindesk.com/craig-wright-provides-new-details-on-bitcoin-trust-at-heart-of-billion-dollar-lawsuit

the more obvious explanation is that he doesn't have access to those coins at all.

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Seems he has now proven the existence of the trust which holds 1.100.111 BTC and that he will be the owner of those funds within 5 months.
Which also basically proves he actually IS Satoshi.

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Quote from: gentlemand on June 16, 2019, 04:52:04 AM

Curious about this too. I know nothing much about the law but this is a civil case with the corresponding lack of heaviness. I presume talking rubbish in a civil case may attract civil penalties, whatever they are, and nothing beyond it.

It's not my area of expertise by any means, but my understanding is that if he doesn't show up, he will be held in contempt of court and an arrest warrant will be issued. He will also lose by default and end up being issued with a substantial settlement to pay to Ira Kleiman. Whether or not these are enforceable internationally is another matter.

I read a good article on it here: https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2019/06/15/craig-wright-has-to-show-up-in-florida-on-28-june-or-else/. Perhaps that can shed some light.

Quote from: LeGaulois on June 16, 2019, 03:14:39 PM

but in the case of the USA and Australia, it could happen if it becomes too much media coverage

CSW currently resides in the UK.

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They may well ask another government to extradite a person. After that, it depends on the relations between the 2 countries, but in the case of the USA and Australia, it could happen if it becomes too much media coverage.
Anyway, it doesn't matter how he's going to get away with it, but I know Karma hits you soon or later.

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Let's get ready to see him move those original bitcoins from the genesis block. The pressure is on now, either move those coins or end up in jail. Let's keep an eye on those wallets, been waiting years to see someone move it

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 16, 2019, 01:04:16 AM

How much legally binding is this order? As far as I know, Craig S Wright is an Australian citizen and he don't need to worry about the court proceedings in the United States. But if the federal judge forces him to appear before him in person and manages to prove that he was lying all along, then the judge will have a lot of respect from my side.

Curious about this too. I know nothing much about the law but this is a civil case with the corresponding lack of heaviness. I presume talking rubbish in a civil case may attract civil penalties, whatever they are, and nothing beyond it.

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on June 16, 2019, 12:13:10 AM

they would see him as a martyr freedom fighter who went to jail for creating Bitcoin or something, maybe they'll even find a way to spin it as "evil Core worked with the US government and bankers to send CWS to jail", lol.

You are right. I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if BSV pumped in response to CSW being thrown in jail. There is zero logic behind this group, which fits well with there being zero logic behind their coin or behind CSW.

Quote from: figmentofmyass on June 16, 2019, 12:27:43 AM

he's already basically a cult leader to them.

Some take it even further than that and declare him a religious leader, apparently. I'm having a hard time believing this video isn't satire, but make of it what you will: https://twitter.com/roryhighside/status/1138008235279994881

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How much legally binding is this order? As far as I know, Craig S Wright is an Australian citizen and he don't need to worry about the court proceedings in the United States. But if the federal judge forces him to appear before him in person and manages to prove that he was lying all along, then the judge will have a lot of respect from my side.

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on June 16, 2019, 12:13:10 AM

I would like to see that too, it would be so funny, but somehow I don't get a feeling that it will happen, and even if it would happen, it wouldn't have much consequences in crypto community, specifically that tine group of sad people who follow this scammer, they would see him as a martyr freedom fighter who went to jail for creating Bitcoin or something, maybe they'll even find a way to spin it as "evil Core worked with the US government and bankers to send CWS to jail", lol.

oh there's no doubt, they would martyr the shit outta that guy. it would only further reinforce their devotion to him. it's incredible to hear some of these lunatic BSV supporters talk. he's already basically a cult leader to them.

i won't be surprised if it happens though. wright has been skating on thin ice for a long time. the frivolous lawsuits, openly lying in court, disrespecting the courts' jurisdiction.....the guy is cruising for a bruising. maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually the courts are going to kick craig in the teeth, mark my words.

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Quote from: figmentofmyass on June 15, 2019, 11:37:34 PM

i've been saying for a while that wright is risking contempt charges with all his shenanigans. openly lying to the court and refusing to comply with a court summons---that would certainly do it. i'd laugh so hard if the judge just throws his ass in jail for a year.

I would like to see that too, it would be so funny, but somehow I don't get a feeling that it will happen, and even if it would happen, it wouldn't have much consequences in crypto community, specifically that tine group of sad people who follow this scammer, they would see him as a martyr freedom fighter who went to jail for creating Bitcoin or something, maybe they'll even find a way to spin it as "evil Core worked with the US government and bankers to send CWS to jail", lol.

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Quote from: bL4nkcode on June 15, 2019, 08:40:59 PM

Just want to open a topic about this man here 'again' and I beg pardon to those who really pissed and annoyed, who doesn't want to hear any news/article from him, but it's worth the time IMO.

US Federal judge threatens to hold Craig Wright in criminal contempt in ongoing court case

Craig Wright, who claims he is Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto, was dealt a blow by a Florida court yesterday after they granted a motion to compel him to prove his bitcoin holdings by Monday. He has also been summoned to the federal court by the end of the month, where he will need to speak under oath.

If Wright fails to comply, he will be held in contempt of court, which could be a criminal act and punishable by a fine or jail time

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/2019/06/15/craig-wright-sees-motion-to-compel-him-to-reveal-his-bitcoin-holdings-granted/

i've been saying for a while that wright is risking contempt charges with all his shenanigans. openly lying to the court and refusing to comply with a court summons---that would certainly do it. i'd laugh so hard if the judge just throws his ass in jail for a year.

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Just want to open a topic about this man here 'again' and I beg pardon to those who really pissed and annoyed, who doesn't want to hear any news/article from him, but it's worth the time IMO.

US Federal judge threatens to hold Craig Wright in criminal contempt in ongoing court case

Craig Wright, who claims he is Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto, was dealt a blow by a Florida court yesterday after they granted a motion to compel him to prove his bitcoin holdings by Monday. He has also been summoned to the federal court by the end of the month, where he will need to speak under oath.

If Wright fails to comply, he will be held in contempt of court, which could be a criminal act and punishable by a fine or jail time

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/2019/06/15/craig-wright-sees-motion-to-compel-him-to-reveal-his-bitcoin-holdings-granted/

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