[2019-08-16] Visionary Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto to Reveal Identity

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on August 22, 2019, 01:00:07 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 21, 2019, 08:11:24 PM

James Bilal Khalid Caan - Satoshi Nakamoto

Why all the buzz?
Did he sign a message with the priv key of one of hi known addresses? No?
Was it explained that it's just a marketing gimmick? Yes.
Well, the more the discussion on this subject, the more it will be used, over and over again.

Please don't pay attention to anybody claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto unless he provide a properly signed (new) message.

I do not know hehe. Also, do not shoot the messenger please. Slow death asked if there were any updates on the news. I was only showing him that nice picture of Satoshi hehehe.

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Quote from: almightyruler on August 22, 2019, 12:45:59 AM

My guess is that the leaked EXIF location data will point to a shop selling old laptops. Grin

It's a Holiday Inn in Manchester, England.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 21, 2019, 08:11:24 PM

James Bilal Khalid Caan - Satoshi Nakamoto

Why all the buzz?
Did he sign a message with the priv key of one of hi known addresses? No?
Was it explained that it's just a marketing gimmick? Yes.
Well, the more the discussion on this subject, the more it will be used, over and over again.

Please don't pay attention to anybody claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto unless he provide a properly signed (new) message.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 21, 2019, 08:11:24 PM

@Slow death. He already showed his face 2 days ago and it appears to be someone's face but photoshopped to look different hehehe.

There was some speculation on Reddit that the image may have been generated by an AI model.

At the least, it's a bad Photoshop job to remove the background, which makes it look dodgy. The laptop image is similarly treated.

My guess is that the leaked EXIF location data will point to a shop selling old laptops. Grin

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@Slow death. He already showed his face 2 days ago and it appears to be someone's face but photoshopped to look different hehehe.

James Bilal Khalid Caan - Satoshi Nakamoto

Source https://satoshinrh.com/

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Quote from: bomj on August 16, 2019, 07:15:30 PM

What is it?

It's a big joke we shouldn't care about, we should actually ignore it completely

Quote from: bomj on August 16, 2019, 07:15:30 PM

We'll know tomorrow .......

today is august 21 and where is the revelation of satoshi's identity? I saw nothing, as it was always another great joke ... I do not understand what these people get by doing these kinds of things, they show no proof and have the courage to expose themselves to ridicule. they are people without notion

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Quote from: almightyruler on August 20, 2019, 02:17:56 AM

I've just realised #2 and #3 have been combined, so I guess this means that the reveal is complete, and no actual proof will be offered?

I'm finding it hard to believe that:

(1) He was using military grade encryption, yet didn't back up his wallet to another similarly encrypted drive;
(2) He returned the laptop for repair under warranty, knowing that there was a chance that some or all of it may be replaced, rather than going straight to a data recovery company;
(3) There was no attempt to get back the original HD back from the repair agents;
(4) After losing all keys, he didn't mine any further blocks to recoup at least some of his loss;
(5) He offers only anecdotal evidence and a couple of photos of a laptop, rather than incidental proof, such as warranty documentation that matches the date of his "somewhat cryptic post"

I was trying to keep an open mind, but this seems more like fiction woven around publicly known milestones and facts.

there are way more discrepancies than that and no actual proof is or was meant to be offered
too many ifs and lets not focus on the laptop , there are more ways to prove that he is Satoshi
yet he didn't go anywhere close to proving , just spreading circumstantial evidence and posting known facts
oh and Chaldean numerology , at least now I learned what it is
if , by some miracle , the story is true , 1 million of coins are lost forever and there won't be a concrete proof if someone is Satoshi ever

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Quote from: odolvlobo on August 20, 2019, 01:16:15 AM

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In hindsight, I should have had bought a £30 GBP printer to at least print my private keys.

Caan seems to have fallen for the common misconception that all of Satoshi's bitcoins are stored in only a few addresses. The truth is that each block reward earned by Satoshi was stored in a different address. His 980,000 BTC would have been stored in 19600 addresses (50 BTC block reward), so his wallet held 19600 private keys.

Would Satoshi really think that printing 19600 private keys on paper is a reasonable way to back them up? At 120 keys per page, that's 163 pages of text.

Loathe to really get into yet another Satoshi discussion re his/her/their wallets and private keys, since nothing that has already been found is discussed, but yeah. This is one among many items incongruent with what the collective Satoshi would have said today were it really him/her/them.

Me being me though, I'd actually have considered 163 pages of text something of a safety feature... if each sheet were stored separately or at different locations. I believe it was even theorised at some point that there was a plan for each of these private keys.

I can't imagine a client in those days loading a wallet with that many addresses though.

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I've just realised #2 and #3 have been combined, so I guess this means that the reveal is complete, and no actual proof will be offered?

I'm finding it hard to believe that:

(1) He was using military grade encryption, yet didn't back up his wallet to another similarly encrypted drive;
(2) He returned the laptop for repair under warranty, knowing that there was a chance that some or all of it may be replaced, rather than going straight to a data recovery company;
(3) There was no attempt to get back the original HD back from the repair agents;
(4) After losing all keys, he didn't mine any further blocks to recoup at least some of his loss;
(5) He offers only anecdotal evidence and a couple of photos of a laptop, rather than incidental proof, such as warranty documentation that matches the date of his "somewhat cryptic post"

I was trying to keep an open mind, but this seems more like fiction woven around publicly known milestones and facts.

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Quote from: odolvlobo on August 20, 2019, 01:16:15 AM

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In hindsight, I should have had bought a £30 GBP printer to at least print my private keys.

Caan seems to have fallen for the common misconception that all of Satoshi's bitcoins are stored in only a few addresses. The truth is that each block reward earned by Satoshi was stored in a different address. His 980,000 BTC would have been stored in 19600 addresses (50 BTC block reward), so his wallet held 19600 private keys.

Would Satoshi really think that printing 19600 private keys on paper is a reasonable way to back them up? At 120 keys per page, that's 163 pages of text.

Playing Devil's Advocate for a moment:

I've noticed that some altcoin clients reuse addresses when creating the coinbase output. For example, one network has over a million blocks, but less than 50,000 unique addresses.

I've never solo mined Bitcoin so I don't know if the client does (or did) the same. Did the original Bitcoin client absolutely, positively use a brand new address for each block it mined?

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Quote from: odolvlobo on August 20, 2019, 01:16:15 AM

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In hindsight, I should have had bought a £30 GBP printer to at least print my private keys.

Caan seems to have fallen for the common misconception that all of Satoshi's bitcoins are stored in only a few addresses. The truth is that each block reward earned by Satoshi was stored in a different address. His 980,000 BTC would have been stored in 19600 addresses (50 BTC block reward), so his wallet held 19600 private keys.

Would Satoshi really think that printing 19600 private keys on paper is a reasonable way to back them up? At 120 keys per page, that's 163 pages of text.

Absolutely, I bet he was clever enough to let do a system doing all that for him - a trust like thingy Wink

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In hindsight, I should have had bought a £30 GBP printer to at least print my private keys.

Caan seems to have fallen for the common misconception that all of Satoshi's bitcoins are stored in only a few addresses. The truth is that each block reward earned by Satoshi was stored in a different address. His 980,000 BTC would have been stored in 19600 addresses (50 BTC block reward), so his wallet held 19600 private keys.

Would Satoshi really think that printing 19600 private keys on paper is a reasonable way to back them up? At 120 keys per page, that's 163 pages of text.

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Part #2 is up now.

One thing that bugs me, from part #1:

"Hal and I began working on P2P Electronic Cash System – it wasn’t named Bitcoin at that point – in 2006-2007 and more extensively in 2007-2008."

Yet Hal Finney responded to Satoshi's initial announcement in November 2008, with many questions, as if it was the first time he was hearing of it:

https://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-November/014827.html

Two possible/obvious explanations for this discrepancy:

(1) Hal Finney deliberately played dumb to hide his earlier involvement.

(2) James Bilal Khalid Caan is not Satoshi Nakamoto.

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while this was an interesting read, cannot deny that , I am more than sure it is one more publicity stunt from some startup that wants to draw attention to its shitcoin
if I had one satoshi for every person that claimed he was Satoshi .... Grin

I'd be rich like a Satoshi
there is no need to write up pages of text and give circumstantial evidence and "reveal the truth "
all real Satoshi has to do is to sign a message from one of the wallets associated with him
p.s. but I will wait and read the third part nevertheless

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Bizarre that shit like this still gets the coverage it does.

Thousands need to make the same claim to finally and fatally dilute the faketoshi market.

We all know what the real one needs to do, but that would still only be compelling rather than irrefutable.

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If I was Satoshi Nakamoto I would hack their website and then post a signed message from one of the early Bitcoin addresses that was linked to the real Satoshi and say that this is not a publicity stunt... A media storm will break out and they will go through all that nonsense that Dorian Nakamoto had to go through.

After a week or more, I would once again sign a new message, telling everyone that it was just a lesson to all the people out there, that they should not mess with lies like this, because it might just backfire on you. Grin

In future this would create even more confusion on who the real Satoshi Nakamoto might be. Grin

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It happened before. One firm set a date when it announced who was hiding behind the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto. I have already stopped responding to such statements and want Satoshi’s identity to remain unidentified. Under such circumstances, Bitcoin will remain a popular invention and no one can claim a patent for its creation. If Satoshi Nakamoto wants to remain incognito, his opinion must be respected.

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It would be very funny if the person they reveal as the real Satoshi Nakamoto was Chinese hehehe.

I will disguise myself by using a japanese name as a pseudonym because I predict everyone's reaction will be to look for a caucasian.

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Friends, no hasty conclusions.
It's like an accelerated ejaculation.
In the meantime, enjoy the reading and wait for the third part.
Even if this is a mystification, it is served with taste.
I would send the author merit.
I read the first part.
Interesting......
But the debate continues:
https://en.ethereumworldnews.com/bitcoin-community-tears-apart-satoshi-blog/

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and as always it will end with craig fucking right yelling at everybody i am satoshi

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