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I think this has been the tradition of Lakers though, if I remember correctly, Kobe also initiated Pau Gasol's move to LA and then make make Howard move somewhere else as they are not in a good relationship.

And I think Lebron has the same mentally even before joining the Lakers. But I would have to agree that this has to be change. The organizations need to take over the players and not the other way around as it will be a disaster.

That's the culture of the Lakes, they have a star player and they will give him what he wants.

They gave everything to Kobe when he was still playing, and now they are giving Lebron everything.
Lebron have won a championship with the Lakers already, the management are already happy with that, so they are giving him the hand to do what he wants.

I wouldn't be shocked that they are fine with losing this year as well, they already got a ring, and it would be awesome if they could get another one, but if they can't, then that is fine because they are riding that ring even today. Sure they could do whatever Lebron asks, they have the money for it, Lakers are one of the most expensive teams in all of NBA, probably one of the most expensive in all sports clubs and that means they can spend money, or they could simply just not lose too much money.

I remember even during the period where they were losing, kobes last years and injury years, they were still making a profit, that should show you how much they would care about winning.

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That is right! Well, we can slightly say that they have some kind of advantage and that is because their head coach which is Steve Kerr is really an experienced basketball player during his time playing ball. Kerr made 5 rings during his time, 3 in Chicago Bulls and 2 in San Antonio Spurs and now 4 rings being a head coach in Golden State Warriors. He surely knows how to invest in some proper players and know how to utilize their each skills to make it a strength. Look at his roster now, it's hard to deny that they will be still dangerous in the upcoming 3 or 4 seasons minimum.

That is why the Warriors team is in good hands Steve Kerr not only showing potential in coaching but a good heart aswell, when shows respect and grieving for the mass shooting in Texas, and back on the game with the Dallas Mavericks,

Well Steve Kerr really is the sole coach for the Golden State Warriors but I think Joe Lacob's trust in his staff and coach was really important aswell it is not an easy task in giving financial support for the team as the owner of the Golden State Warriors, and on the night the Warriors won the Championship Coach Kerr give recognition to Bob Myers in putting a great team I think every person that involves in developing the teams surely needs great salute, and respect,

Yes, that's how blessed the Warriors are as they have a kind and a good-hearted coach and a strict coach as well to make his team straighten up. I mean, anyone who helps the team surely deserves the credit and respect as they are also a vital reason on why the Warriors got the position they had now like the team's doctor which is the 1st person that Klay run into the moment they won the championship.

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I see that it hasn't been discussed much but I think that Dallas did a really important job by adding Christian Wood to their roster. Dallas didn't give anything except rubbish to Houston while getting Wood. Even if the player doesn't meet the expectations it wouldn't be a big loss for Dallas. Wood would relieve Dallas about offense a lot. But when it comes to defense, I think that he really needs to improve himself this season. It isn't possible for him to make his presence felt in the playoffs with his current condition.

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Quote from: blockman on June 23, 2022, 10:59:24 AM

Who's got a good insight about the upcoming NBA draft? For the names of the draft prospects, here they are.
(https://www.nba.com/draft/2022/prospects)
There are also mock drafts that were done by various sources and sports media. What do you think about the common picks and your thoughts about this event?

I honestly have no idea who any of these kids are. College being shut down in recent years because of covid made me lose all interest in watching or even keeping track of who the players are. I probably won't even watch the draft as a result. Usually there's all sorts of highlight reels from these players, but I haven't seen any... I'm more interested in the trades that will be done around the draft as players I've heard of will undoubtedly be moved in the near future.

The big news of the moment seems to be the Lakers and Hornets closing in on a deal for Russell Westbrook. I have no idea how that situation will shake out.

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Who's got a good insight about the upcoming NBA draft? For the names of the draft prospects, here they are.
(https://www.nba.com/draft/2022/prospects)
There are also mock drafts that were done by various sources and sports media. What do you think about the common picks and your thoughts about this event?

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Rumors of Bradley Beal declining his $36.4 million Wizard's contract option. Money wise he should take the money but if he wants a real shot at the championships then he can reject it and look for better teams. But maybe another decent team will offer him a good amount of money for a longer.

I guess these keys players like him are starting to realize that it's not just all about the contract but also getting in a team that has a caliber to take the ring.

Hell yeah, this is a big money and it's already a good amount for the contract that he wants to sign. But I guess that offer will remain there until he finally accepts it or find a better deal from the other teams with good teammates.

Right and Beal going to play with others to build a 'super team' (although not a sure recipe to become a champion). He need help in Washington though, I think him and Westbrook that time looks solid as they went to the playoffs, but we already know what happened next. And so you can't blame him if he doesn't want to play again with Washington because of the players surrounding him.

But you know what?

Just like this season and the other past one, there have been super teams that were composed of good players, as in superstar players and we thought that they'll share a ring for those particular seasons.

I think it will still depend on the blend of the roster and the attitude of these great players to team up. Because even they're all superstars, there's a likely that they'll be beaten by a good team that don't have much superstars but has a great chemistry.

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~ The Brooklyn Nets will trade Kyrie Irving to the LA Clippers for Robert Covington, Norman Powell, and Ivica Zubac I think this trade is the most out-of-pocket for a team to be doing we all know how good Kyrie Irving is, and to trade him for three players I think the Brooklyn Nets is just making money out of him,

This move tells us that Clippers doesn't want a repeat of their last two season when their two key players (Kahwi & PG) struggled to stay healthy throughout the regular season and playoffs. The problem here is they are still going to struggle with the new team chemistry and their rotation. I think Covington, Powell, and Zubac have become an integral part of their system already and it will be tough to replace them. As of now, it's looking like a win for the Nets.

The LA Clippers really need star players right now and if they do such a thing they really are in a desperate situation the Brooklyn Nets aswell would surely need to up their defense and I think Robert Covington, Norman Powell, and Ivica Zubac could be their salvation in getting what they want, but there is a drawback here they are giving Kyrie Irving, a major Scorer for the team of the Clippers, while the Brooklyn Nets are really focusing on their defense, I think they have seen the Bostin Celtics and the Golden State Warriors have a defensive game aswell and that is what they lack,

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The Brooklyn Nets will trade Kyrie Irving to the LA Clippers for Robert Covington, Norman Powell, and Ivica Zubac I think this trade is the most out-of-pocket for a team to be doing we all know how good Kyrie Irving is, and to trade him for three players I think the Brooklyn Nets is just making money out of him,

Any source with this or this is just another rumor?
Anyway, I don't know if adding Kyrie to the team will benefit them because PG and Kawhi are enough already to carry the team. Let's also take note that RoCo and Zubac are good supporting cast, and Powell might be their 3rd option because of how good he played when he is still in Portland. Well, if this trade will happen then I just hope that Kyrie, PG and Kawhi will fit to each other because for me, I don't think that it will be a perfect fit. My 2 cents.

Well, it is just Rumored that they want to make a trade like that but it is not official yet that is because it is just a rumor, but I have seen this article on the Bleacher Report site, just search for it there, and I think it will not be official if both teams will not confirm and approve in what they really want, I say whatever happens I think that the LA Lakers will have the bigger benefit for this trade if it happens if Kawhi Leonard or Paul George is still in injury or can not play there will be a Kyrie Irving backing them up, but they are lessening their defense strategy,

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Lakers are going to be the team that I wonder about the most before next season. Because they were really bad last season and couldn't qualify for even the playoffs. Lebron was the most impressive player of the team as always but even his high effort couldn't help the desperate condition of the team. Because he didn't have anyone to help him about making it to the playoffs at least. Westbrook and Davis were really inadequate. Westbrook isn't performing like in the old times and Davis had a serious injury. I hope that Lakers change their starting five by new trades.

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Whichever team needs a defender needs to offer something good on this guy. Nicolas Batum.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34124943/sources-nicolas-batum-decline-option-wants-remain-la-clippers
He wants to remain a Clippers but it doesn't suit the decline for the option. He is looking for more, a better team with better pay, maybe. The way he performed without PG13 and Kawhi is outstanding on the defensive end and could be a roleplayer for any team.

The Kyrie trade to Clippers is not on the news, it's just a rumor or someone posting fake news on social media.

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I'm not so sure about that. As I'm trying to point out earlier, the Clippers have already formed a decent team with those three players and they are only missing the return of their two stars. Kahwi will most likely return next season in better shape because he's taken his time to recover. He'll probably prefer to play under a team with established chemistry. I remember he said something about chemistry as one reason when they lost in his first season as a Clipper.

Could be, as long as Kawhi and Paul George are healthy, they can trade. Jackson and Mann can stay. Zubac though looks very soft as a center for Clippers.

So let's see if they are willing for that kind of trade just to get Kyrie. It will be a gamble for them as Kyrie seems to bring some issues with him as he go with other teams. Clippers have a lot of thinking before they can pull that trade and I don't think that they can free some tax as well if ever they acquire Irving.

Kyrie seems to be a big attraction for them but I don't know if it is going to be worth it for them to do everything that they are prepared to do to get this player. I also agree that it is going to be a gamble. And if there is a case of injury it is not going to work out very well for them too.

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Even if Kyrie is the most talented player exist in this era still its a huge gamble for them to get this player unto their team because many know how toxic he is and that could affect their organization if they encounter the same issue again with him. Maybe its best for them to select different potential stars which is a team player because could give them more good result.

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I'm not so sure about that. As I'm trying to point out earlier, the Clippers have already formed a decent team with those three players and they are only missing the return of their two stars. Kahwi will most likely return next season in better shape because he's taken his time to recover. He'll probably prefer to play under a team with established chemistry. I remember he said something about chemistry as one reason when they lost in his first season as a Clipper.

Could be, as long as Kawhi and Paul George are healthy, they can trade. Jackson and Mann can stay. Zubac though looks very soft as a center for Clippers.

So let's see if they are willing for that kind of trade just to get Kyrie. It will be a gamble for them as Kyrie seems to bring some issues with him as he go with other teams. Clippers have a lot of thinking before they can pull that trade and I don't think that they can free some tax as well if ever they acquire Irving.

Kyrie seems to be a big attraction for them but I don't know if it is going to be worth it for them to do everything that they are prepared to do to get this player. I also agree that it is going to be a gamble. And if there is a case of injury it is not going to work out very well for them too.

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I think this will favor the Clippers because Durant is not really that healthy and if he gets injured, Nets will still struggle.

I'm not so sure about that. As I'm trying to point out earlier, the Clippers have already formed a decent team with those three players and they are only missing the return of their two stars. Kahwi will most likely return next season in better shape because he's taken his time to recover. He'll probably prefer to play under a team with established chemistry. I remember he said something about chemistry as one reason when they lost in his first season as a Clipper.

Could be, as long as Kawhi and Paul George are healthy, they can trade. Jackson and Mann can stay. Zubac though looks very soft as a center for Clippers.

So let's see if they are willing for that kind of trade just to get Kyrie. It will be a gamble for them as Kyrie seems to bring some issues with him as he go with other teams. Clippers have a lot of thinking before they can pull that trade and I don't think that they can free some tax as well if ever they acquire Irving.

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Quote from: Kasabus on June 23, 2022, 06:34:04 AM

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I think this will favor the Clippers because Durant is not really that healthy and if he gets injured, Nets will still struggle.

I'm not so sure about that. As I'm trying to point out earlier, the Clippers have already formed a decent team with those three players and they are only missing the return of their two stars. Kahwi will most likely return next season in better shape because he's taken his time to recover. He'll probably prefer to play under a team with established chemistry. I remember he said something about chemistry as one reason when they lost in his first season as a Clipper.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on June 22, 2022, 11:29:25 PM

The Brooklyn Nets will trade Kyrie Irving to the LA Clippers for Robert Covington, Norman Powell, and Ivica Zubac I think this trade is the most out-of-pocket for a team to be doing we all know how good Kyrie Irving is, and to trade him for three players I think the Brooklyn Nets is just making money out of him,

Any source with this or this is just another rumor?
Anyway, I don't know if adding Kyrie to the team will benefit them because PG and Kawhi are enough already to carry the team. Let's also take note that RoCo and Zubac are good supporting cast, and Powell might be their 3rd option because of how good he played when he is still in Portland. Well, if this trade will happen then I just hope that Kyrie, PG and Kawhi will fit to each other because for me, I don't think that it will be a perfect fit. My 2 cents.

Quote from: Kasabus on June 23, 2022, 06:34:04 AM

I think this will favor the Clippers because Durant is not really that healthy and if he gets injured, Nets will still struggle.

I saw a post on social media saying that if Kyrie will be traded, Durant might request for a trade. Furthermore, I don't know if this is true, but I don't think that Durant can carry the Nets on his own if Kyrie will be traded.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on June 22, 2022, 11:29:25 PM

~ The Brooklyn Nets will trade Kyrie Irving to the LA Clippers for Robert Covington, Norman Powell, and Ivica Zubac I think this trade is the most out-of-pocket for a team to be doing we all know how good Kyrie Irving is, and to trade him for three players I think the Brooklyn Nets is just making money out of him,

This move tells us that Clippers doesn't want a repeat of their last two season when their two key players (Kahwi & PG) struggled to stay healthy throughout the regular season and playoffs. The problem here is they are still going to struggle with the new team chemistry and their rotation. I think Covington, Powell, and Zubac have become an integral part of their system already and it will be tough to replace them. As of now, it's looking like a win for the Nets.

Both teams are really adjusting because they have a bad season. Nets was eliminated in the first round, it's very evident their lack of defense, and now they are relying on Durant to be their main star while the Clippers are adding another star player for the big 3.

I think this will favor the Clippers because Durant is not really that healthy and if he gets injured, Nets will still struggle.

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Some major moves, Portland acquire Grant from the Pistons.

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The Portland Trail Blazers are acquiring Detroit Pistons forward Jerami Grant for a protected 2025 first-round pick and additional draft assets, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34132481/detroit-pistons-trading-forward-jerami-grant-portland-trail-blazers-2025-1st-round-pick-sources-say

I think it's a win win for both teams, Blazers are on a rebuilding phase and need someone like Grant to help Dame next season.

While Grant was not given enough time when he was in Detroit because they have been laden with players like him at the same spot.

I still can't forget his contributions when he was still in the Denver Nuggets last bubble. He is like the 3rd option of the team at that time when it comes to defense.
It's a bit unfortunate that we didn't see him play that much when he was still in Detroit.

Now seeing the current roster of Portland, it looks like he will be given more time there. Lillard now has a partner at least offensively though Grant isn't the same as McCollum who is very good offensively. Let's see but the Blazers won this trade I think.

Yeah, Grant is a good catch for Portland, maybe this is the last run that they have with Dame to make into the finals in the West but not sure if their current roster is enough.

They need another one or some role players that can fill the gap when the starters are resting. But there could be more players in the field that they can get before the start of the next season.

Blazers are trying to bring players that will help Dame after trading CJ,

Grant might be a good catch for them if he will contribute the way fans expect him wearing the Blazers uniform, it will
be a win if Grant fits with the way Dame plays the game and with how Blazer's coach design the system, looking to see
if how Dame will take care of his team after being separated with CJ, he's still the main alpha who will be leading the team
on their next quest chasing the title.

I don't think that Dame will adjust as far as his game style, he is the Alpha after all. So with or without CJ, he will score and probably will take the ball dominant. Maybe in the top 5 as far as ppg, but still will base on how him and Grant will blend. A lot has to be made on this team, and as @danherbias07, another wing man will not hurt them. If some good players are available, they should at least get one, not to replace CJ, but it will be good if that wingman can play defense too.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on June 22, 2022, 11:29:25 PM

~ The Brooklyn Nets will trade Kyrie Irving to the LA Clippers for Robert Covington, Norman Powell, and Ivica Zubac I think this trade is the most out-of-pocket for a team to be doing we all know how good Kyrie Irving is, and to trade him for three players I think the Brooklyn Nets is just making money out of him,

This move tells us that Clippers doesn't want a repeat of their last two season when their two key players (Kahwi & PG) struggled to stay healthy throughout the regular season and playoffs. The problem here is they are still going to struggle with the new team chemistry and their rotation. I think Covington, Powell, and Zubac have become an integral part of their system already and it will be tough to replace them. As of now, it's looking like a win for the Nets.

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Some major moves, Portland acquire Grant from the Pistons.

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The Portland Trail Blazers are acquiring Detroit Pistons forward Jerami Grant for a protected 2025 first-round pick and additional draft assets, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34132481/detroit-pistons-trading-forward-jerami-grant-portland-trail-blazers-2025-1st-round-pick-sources-say

I think it's a win win for both teams, Blazers are on a rebuilding phase and need someone like Grant to help Dame next season.

While Grant was not given enough time when he was in Detroit because they have been laden with players like him at the same spot.

I still can't forget his contributions when he was still in the Denver Nuggets last bubble. He is like the 3rd option of the team at that time when it comes to defense.
It's a bit unfortunate that we didn't see him play that much when he was still in Detroit.

Now seeing the current roster of Portland, it looks like he will be given more time there. Lillard now has a partner at least offensively though Grant isn't the same as McCollum who is very good offensively. Let's see but the Blazers won this trade I think.

Yeah, Grant is a good catch for Portland, maybe this is the last run that they have with Dame to make into the finals in the West but not sure if their current roster is enough.

They need another one or some role players that can fill the gap when the starters are resting. But there could be more players in the field that they can get before the start of the next season.

Blazers are trying to bring players that will help Dame after trading CJ,

Grant might be a good catch for them if he will contribute the way fans expect him wearing the Blazers uniform, it will
be a win if Grant fits with the way Dame plays the game and with how Blazer's coach design the system, looking to see
if how Dame will take care of his team after being separated with CJ, he's still the main alpha who will be leading the team
on their next quest chasing the title.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on June 22, 2022, 10:52:33 PM

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Some major moves, Portland acquire Grant from the Pistons.

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The Portland Trail Blazers are acquiring Detroit Pistons forward Jerami Grant for a protected 2025 first-round pick and additional draft assets, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34132481/detroit-pistons-trading-forward-jerami-grant-portland-trail-blazers-2025-1st-round-pick-sources-say

I think it's a win win for both teams, Blazers are on a rebuilding phase and need someone like Grant to help Dame next season.

While Grant was not given enough time when he was in Detroit because they have been laden with players like him at the same spot.

I still can't forget his contributions when he was still in the Denver Nuggets last bubble. He is like the 3rd option of the team at that time when it comes to defense.
It's a bit unfortunate that we didn't see him play that much when he was still in Detroit.

Now seeing the current roster of Portland, it looks like he will be given more time there. Lillard now has a partner at least offensively though Grant isn't the same as McCollum who is very good offensively. Let's see but the Blazers won this trade I think.

Yeah, Grant is a good catch for Portland, maybe this is the last run that they have with Dame to make into the finals in the West but not sure if their current roster is enough.

They need another one or some role players that can fill the gap when the starters are resting. But there could be more players in the field that they can get before the start of the next season.

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Rumors of Bradley Beal declining his $36.4 million Wizard's contract option. Money wise he should take the money but if he wants a real shot at the championships then he can reject it and look for better teams. But maybe another decent team will offer him a good amount of money for a longer.

I guess these keys players like him are starting to realize that it's not just all about the contract but also getting in a team that has a caliber to take the ring.

Hell yeah, this is a big money and it's already a good amount for the contract that he wants to sign. But I guess that offer will remain there until he finally accepts it or find a better deal from the other teams with good teammates.

We all know that a player who wants to win a ring does not have much chance in a team like the Washington Wizards. Bradley Beal is a good basketball player, but $36 million is a lot of money. In this case, it will not be easy to make a decision.
I hope he goes to a team he can be happy with and has a better year ahead. He is now a basketball player approaching the age of 30

He knows what he is doing, if he wants to win a championship, then he should look for another team to play. Wizards is not a championship team, ye, he will earn a decent amount but staying in a team that has no chance to win a championship maybe something Beal does not want to do.

Playing with a legit superstars, that's probably what he is looking for, so if Lakers will acquire him, they need to let Westbrook go.

Another Superstar inside Lakers, even after they will let Westbrook go, there's no assurance that Beal will be a good reinforcement for them,

Star-studded line up in terms of papers, but when they are already inside the court, there's no chemistry among them. They need players who can

help or surround LeBron with or without AD. Though we don't know if what can be the impact if Beal will be acquired, let's wait for more updates

regarding to this possible trade.

I think they will improve because Beal does provide good offense compared to Westbrook. He attacks consistently on his outside shooting, unlike Westbrook. Lebron will still be the leader of the team, if Beal will play with Lebron effectively, then we might see good chemistry in the team that will be built.

Davis has to be healthy, he has been very fragile, he cannot afford to get injured again in the next season as for sure, the management will decide to trade him.

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