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Quote from: Natalim on October 18, 2019, 05:39:15 AM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on October 18, 2019, 05:10:56 AM

A bit off topic I guess.
With the upcoming retirement of Luol Deng. Who's feeling a bit sad here that our childhood superstars are retiring? I won't mention the other superstars that have already retired but many of them are part of our childhood. Sorry for bringing nostalgia to this thread.

I watched him play but he is not really a superstar so it did not mark a lot to me.
Maybe if Lebron will retire than I would feel sad because we know he is the king in the NBA and he has a lot of fans although he also has a lot of haters.

How old are you? maybe you missed those good old days when he's still playing at his peak?

Quote from: Oasisman on October 18, 2019, 06:18:27 AM

Luol Deng was one of the best piece in the Chicago Bulls, who competed with Lebron in Miami. He became a superstar twice and was included in NBA all defensive 2nd team. He didnt get too much attention and was underrated because of D Rose's presence in Chicago.
He's like the Lamar Odom of Chicago, remember how Odom became a perfect complement for Kobe?

Exactly, oh my you've mentioned those retired great players. Oh well.. I'm continuing with my nostalgic moment.

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Quote from: Red_Evil on October 18, 2019, 10:29:17 PM

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This is actually one weakness that I've thought about this kid. His knees won't be able to hold up with that body weight and those high jumps. He should be fine for a couple of years of highly competitive games but his career will probably last less than 10 years if he is not going to change his playing style as he grows older.

I disagree with you, the problem he has is his weight. he doesn't need to change the way he plays or his playing style. Well, one solution for Zion in order to have a long career is to lose weight so as not to hurt his legs again. Weighing now at 285 pounds, one of the toughest players in the NBA.

He will have to change his playing style once he loses his explosiveness or quickness to still become an effective player. Or do you still expect him to rely heavily on those aspects of his game after five years?

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Quote from: Red_Evil on October 18, 2019, 10:29:17 PM

Breaking News! https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/18/sports/basketball/zion-williamson-knee-injury.html
It looks like we have to postpone seeing Zion play at the start of the Regular Season week because he reportedly suffered a knee injury suffered during the preseason and is expected not playing for several weeks.

This is actually one weakness that I've thought about this kid. His knees won't be able to hold up with that body weight and those high jumps. He should be fine for a couple of years of highly competitive games but his career will probably last less than 10 years if he is not going to change his playing style as he grows older.

I disagree with you, the problem he has is his weight. he doesn't need to change the way he plays or his playing style. Well, one solution for Zion in order to have a long career is to lose weight so as not to hurt his legs again. Weighing now at 285 pounds, one of the toughest players in the NBA.

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Quote from: Red_Evil on October 18, 2019, 10:29:17 PM

Breaking News! https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/18/sports/basketball/zion-williamson-knee-injury.html
It looks like we have to postpone seeing Zion play at the start of the Regular Season week because he reportedly suffered a knee injury suffered during the preseason and is expected not playing for several weeks.

This is actually one weakness that I've thought about this kid. His knees won't be able to hold up with that body weight and those high jumps. He should be fine for a couple of years of highly competitive games but his career will probably last less than 10 years if he is not going to change his playing style as he grows older.

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Breaking News! https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/18/sports/basketball/zion-williamson-knee-injury.html
It looks like we have to postpone seeing Zion play at the start of the Regular Season week because he reportedly suffered a knee injury suffered during the preseason and is expected not playing for several weeks.

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Quote from: boyptc on October 18, 2019, 05:17:49 PM

Quote from: rosezionjohn on October 18, 2019, 12:07:48 PM

Chicago was kind enough to let him retire peacefully. I hope he got smart with the money he got from playing and not end up broke with life after NBA.

Well, that's another case, I wish that he won't be the same as Allen Iverson after the retirement.

I guess that he has enough knowledge on how to deal with the next chapter of his life after his NBA career.

Best thing to do after retirement is putting up business to sustain the lifestyle they currently have. These NBA veterans probably has a financial advisor (if they choose to, and that's the wisest thing to do.)
I guess its easy for them to put up a basketball clinic and training camps for all ages, since they have played the best basketball league in the world. That idea will most likely to sell a lot.

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Quote from: Reid on October 18, 2019, 05:46:12 PM

Quote from: boyptc on October 18, 2019, 05:17:49 PM

Quote from: rosezionjohn on October 18, 2019, 12:07:48 PM

Chicago was kind enough to let him retire peacefully. I hope he got smart with the money he got from playing and not end up broke with life after NBA.

Well, that's another case, I wish that he won't be the same as Allen Iverson after the retirement.

I guess that he has enough knowledge on how to deal with the next chapter of his life after his NBA career.

We dont know that.
But if he could afford anything and just requires a good retirement then I guess we could say that he is still in good position financially.

But it doesnt matter anymore, a round of applause after his statement will be remembered forever in Chicago and that is all worth it than money.

Yeah, we have no idea about that but I'm wishing all the best to him and if ever I'll meet him in the future, I'll be glad to approach him and thank him for his contribution because he's part of the generation of NBA superstars.

Hats off to him, I guess we have to move on to next topic.

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Quote from: boyptc on October 18, 2019, 05:17:49 PM

Quote from: rosezionjohn on October 18, 2019, 12:07:48 PM

Chicago was kind enough to let him retire peacefully. I hope he got smart with the money he got from playing and not end up broke with life after NBA.

Well, that's another case, I wish that he won't be the same as Allen Iverson after the retirement.

I guess that he has enough knowledge on how to deal with the next chapter of his life after his NBA career.

We dont know that.
But if he could afford anything and just requires a good retirement then I guess we could say that he is still in good position financially.

But it doesnt matter anymore, a round of applause after his statement will be remembered forever in Chicago and that is all worth it than money.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on October 18, 2019, 12:07:48 PM

Chicago was kind enough to let him retire peacefully. I hope he got smart with the money he got from playing and not end up broke with life after NBA.

Well, that's another case, I wish that he won't be the same as Allen Iverson after the retirement.

I guess that he has enough knowledge on how to deal with the next chapter of his life after his NBA career.

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Quote from: Rikafip on October 18, 2019, 11:24:16 AM

To reduce injuries, NBA should seriously reconsider shortening regular part of the season. I know that money is always an issue, and owners and sponsors are worried that they would loose too much money, but what we have now when top players are dosing their playtime during regular season ain't fun either, so many games look like exhibition.
And we all know that real stuff starts at playoff, so in the end we would have more interesting regular season, and healthier players in playoffs. Win-win situation.

This is not a good idea. Injuries are part of the game, where in fact players are payed to give their all no matter the consequences are. Shortening the games of the regular season does not benefit anyone since their revenue will only deteriorate.

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Quote from: Devawnm367 on October 18, 2019, 01:12:26 PM

I know this much, just judging from the NBA Preseason. I am liking the Chicago Bulls bench. One of there bench guys can shoot hell of 3 pointers. They stomped The Toronto Raptors the other day. I honestly think after last years season the Bulls need to play their bench. It is obviouse they are better!

They might be better but tops they are a #8 or #7 seed in the east. They need some more pieces to start to contend. I do like Wendell carter, he is a blue collar type of player every team needs. I hope he develops into a good player. Another duke kid who was great to watch in college too. If they win 41 games this year and break even that is a win for them

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I know this much, just judging from the NBA Preseason. I am liking the Chicago Bulls bench. One of there bench guys can shoot hell of 3 pointers. They stomped The Toronto Raptors the other day. I honestly think after last years season the Bulls need to play their bench. It is obviouse they are better!

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Quote from: spadormie on October 18, 2019, 12:08:37 PM

Quote from: Rikafip on October 18, 2019, 11:24:16 AM

To reduce injuries, NBA should seriously reconsider shortening regular part of the season. I know that money is always an issue, and owners and sponsors are worried that they would loose too much money, but what we have now when top players are dosing their playtime during regular season ain't fun either, so many games look like exhibition.
And we all know that real stuff starts at playoff, so in the end we would have more interesting regular season, and healthier players in playoffs. Win-win situation.

There is no need to lower the NBA games. Why? It's because injury is always there to happen. What gives if we only low the stretches, yes NBA will lose money but these players are enjoying their jobs. They can get fame, money and happiness in one.

The only thing about injuries is to have a good physique. Just look at people that having injury most of the time. The unicorn, Kristaps Porzingis, he's injury prone. He's slim and he's big that's why he is injury prone. If you're big, the best thing to do is to build your body and put some weight to avoid injuries. Injuries are like accidents, it may happen all the time. Even during practices it may occur.

It is not just about injuries, it is about quality of games as well.

Have you seen some of those back to back games?They look almost as exhibition games. And there are bunch of games like that, where you can see that players are not even trying hard. And that hurts league way more than reducing number of games , in the long run.

There is another big issue with this-lack of sleep due heavy schedule. ESPN has interesting report regarding that, it is worth checking
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27767289/dirty-little-secret-everybody-knows-about

I don't say that reduction should be huge, but something like 10% cut would be perfectly feasible. And we would get more interesting and competitive regular season instead that exhibition show that we often can see.

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Quote from: Rikafip on October 18, 2019, 11:24:16 AM

To reduce injuries, NBA should seriously reconsider shortening regular part of the season. I know that money is always an issue, and owners and sponsors are worried that they would loose too much money, but what we have now when top players are dosing their playtime during regular season ain't fun either, so many games look like exhibition.
And we all know that real stuff starts at playoff, so in the end we would have more interesting regular season, and healthier players in playoffs. Win-win situation.

Players being paid by huge amount of money, franchise owners needs to benefits from them. There's no need to change how the league was being manage as you mentioned that it's all about money, Players who are wise enough to stay healthy will receive more paychecks than to those who are injury prone.

It's business. Players and team owners knows the value of being physically healthy as there's the money belongs.

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Quote from: Rikafip on October 18, 2019, 11:24:16 AM

To reduce injuries, NBA should seriously reconsider shortening regular part of the season. I know that money is always an issue, and owners and sponsors are worried that they would loose too much money, but what we have now when top players are dosing their playtime during regular season ain't fun either, so many games look like exhibition.
And we all know that real stuff starts at playoff, so in the end we would have more interesting regular season, and healthier players in playoffs. Win-win situation.

There is no need to lower the NBA games. Why? It's because injury is always there to happen. What gives if we only low the stretches, yes NBA will lose money but these players are enjoying their jobs. They can get fame, money and happiness in one.

The only thing about injuries is to have a good physique. Just look at people that having injury most of the time. The unicorn, Kristaps Porzingis, he's injury prone. He's slim and he's big that's why he is injury prone. If you're big, the best thing to do is to build your body and put some weight to avoid injuries. Injuries are like accidents, it may happen all the time. Even during practices it may occur.

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Luol Deng was another case of a player who failed to evolve as age catches up on him. Careers of players who rely so much on their quickness or explosiveness will not last long. Chicago was kind enough to let him retire peacefully. I hope he got smart with the money he got from playing and not end up broke with life after NBA.

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Luol Deng was never really that much of a superstar, even at his best years dude wasn't really a superstar, he scored less than Kyle Kuzma has scored on his peak year (albeit on a slower pace I would agree) and he was a beast defender for sure but that is about it, I would say he was a offensively talented Tony Allen type player, just because he could be a role player to some team on their ring chase doesn't negate the fact that he was so bad at the end that people literally tried to get rid of him, it wasn't just about his contract, if you pay someone a lot of money and it looks like it is too much money, you at least play him a bit to get only a portion of that back, dude didn't get to play at all, he sucked that much.

So, at the end he became a meme among the NBA followers. Sure, he had his good times but I doubt it will erase his bad times.

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Quote from: Questat on October 18, 2019, 08:50:55 AM

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I don't know if they can, what we are witnessing is just a preseason which players are not taking the game seriously.
yes, they dominated the Clippers, but PG was not playing and Leonard only played a small number of minutes, preseason games are just exhibition games, it's a no bearing game and starters usually does not play hard to avoid injury.

How should I say it coz uhmm.. I’ve high hopes with what Luka Doncic skills that he have and with a healthy now Kristaps Porzingis that can definitely enough to make in the playoffs, but let’s see how they’ll play in regular season and I rather want to see that they likely to continue dominating each of their game.

I research some article about the playoffs ranking in 2020 and found this one.
https://lwosports.com/2019/10/06/2020-nba-western-conference-playoff-predictions/

Based on its ranking,
1. Los Angeles Clippers, 2. Denver Nuggets, 3. Los Angeles Lakers, 4. Utah Jazz, 5. Houston Rockets, 6. Portland Trail Blazers, 7. Golden State Warriors, 8. San Antonio Spurs

Dallas was not included so they are an underrated team and it would be a surprise if they will make it to the playoffs.

Dallas is underrated indeed but looking with how Doncic and Porzingis enjoying each other they can simply build a good relationship and a kind of leadership this team needs to be more competitive, Back when the time where Kidd and Nowitzki play alongside and create a good chemistry. If Luka and Kris will let their team mates to be more involve and create space by moving without the ball, there's always chances to improve not because you are underrated means that you can't compete it's the leadership of coaches and star players to be combined.

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To reduce injuries, NBA should seriously reconsider shortening regular part of the season. I know that money is always an issue, and owners and sponsors are worried that they would loose too much money, but what we have now when top players are dosing their playtime during regular season ain't fun either, so many games look like exhibition.
And we all know that real stuff starts at playoff, so in the end we would have more interesting regular season, and healthier players in playoffs. Win-win situation.

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Quote from: Questat on October 18, 2019, 08:50:55 AM

Quote from: asu on October 18, 2019, 08:30:55 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on October 18, 2019, 07:44:24 AM

I don't know if they can, what we are witnessing is just a preseason which players are not taking the game seriously.
yes, they dominated the Clippers, but PG was not playing and Leonard only played a small number of minutes, preseason games are just exhibition games, it's a no bearing game and starters usually does not play hard to avoid injury.

How should I say it coz uhmm.. I’ve high hopes with what Luka Doncic skills that he have and with a healthy now Kristaps Porzingis that can definitely enough to make in the playoffs, but let’s see how they’ll play in regular season and I rather want to see that they likely to continue dominating each of their game.

I research some article about the playoffs ranking in 2020 and found this one.
https://lwosports.com/2019/10/06/2020-nba-western-conference-playoff-predictions/

Based on its ranking,
1. Los Angeles Clippers, 2. Denver Nuggets, 3. Los Angeles Lakers, 4. Utah Jazz, 5. Houston Rockets, 6. Portland Trail Blazers, 7. Golden State Warriors, 8. San Antonio Spurs

Dallas was not included so they are an underrated team and it would be a surprise if they will make it to the playoffs.

I'm just wishing that no one else would get the extremely injured for this upcoming NBA season. Normally ranking always fail and most often the one who makes in the playoffs are literally not in the list.

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