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September 10, 2023, 06:23:58 AM
And if his team wins the FIBA, then it will motivate him more to go and get that back to back NBA champions. He is healthy and so are the other core member of Denver Nuggets so for sure they will play as harder as last year.

We are going to find out in less than 2 hours, but I'm sure the final game tonight between Germany and Serbia will not be the same as Canada vs. USA, as both teams are displaying great ball movement and defense. I'm excited to see it, and I hope the winner is truly the deserving team. If Team Schröder wins here, I think it will help him a lot with his NBA team; he'll probably get more minutes, and his confidence will boost.

Yeah, most likely it will be a big boost for him if he can carry team Germany. The thing with Dennis is that he has help in engaging his team mates in this FIBA tournament. I guess his experience in the NBA really help in a lot and he has so much confidence going into the finals. So we will see.

On the other hand, Serbia as well is playing good basketball, rotation and specially their defense. So this is going to be very exciting fight for the gold medal in this FIBA. And for sure those NBA players that have participated here will have a new kind of experience.
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September 10, 2023, 06:08:03 AM
And if his team wins the FIBA, then it will motivate him more to go and get that back to back NBA champions. He is healthy and so are the other core member of Denver Nuggets so for sure they will play as harder as last year.

We are going to find out in less than 2 hours, but I'm sure the final game tonight between Germany and Serbia will not be the same as Canada vs. USA, as both teams are displaying great ball movement and defense. I'm excited to see it, and I hope the winner is truly the deserving team. If Team Schröder wins here, I think it will help him a lot with his NBA team; he'll probably get more minutes, and his confidence will boost.
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September 10, 2023, 05:26:20 AM
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Oh, and Serbia too, without Nikola Jokic I thought they were stopping at the quarter-finals but surprisingly they are now playing for gold. There's so much talent on that team and I bet even the Joker is surprised and happy about what is happening to his country's team.
Sure thing Joker is proud. It's a great feeling to see your fellow countrymen playing excellent basketball in the World Cup,and it's hard not to be proud and happy about their achievements.

But if Joker played in this tournament it might change how Serbia plays and affect the game's result for better or might worst, no one knows. Eventhough Jokic is a superstar having one on your team doesn't always make it better, remember the 2012-13 Lakers season having Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Howard and Steve Nash look how they end up on that season.

He sure is proud. Anyway, never change a winning team, even if it's just hypothetical. With him on the floor of course they seem better, but the smallest changes sometimes can have a big impact.
They are where they are because they played together as a team with a great game plan. No need to think about what could have been.

Basketball isn't Jokic's priority, it's just his job, as he stated himself. He had a long season, won the chip and enjoys his well deserved offseason.
Also, obviously he loves his horses more than basketball.  Grin

They are already in the finals and we don't know what might happen If Joker is playing with them, but for sure he loves seeing the achievements that his fellow countrymen are gaining.

Almost just one more game away from winning the title. I like your comment about what he loves and he really
enjoying his time with his horse.

For sure he will have a big impact on this team when he is on the floor. He dominated the NBA in the last 3 years, winning 2 MVPs and then won the Finals last year. I think it will be huge for the Serbians team if he is on the lineup. On the contrary, it could be a blessing though, as their opponent will not guard their main offensive weapon in Jokic. So they really don't know who will take over in certain games, in short they become unpredictable, without Jokic and it make them hard to deal with.

The upcoming NBA season is nearing, and he's enjoying his break and I'm sure after the enjoyment it will be
back to reality and start conditioning and practicing for another run, chasing for another title.

And if his team wins the FIBA, then it will motivate him more to go and get that back to back NBA champions. He is healthy and so are the other core member of Denver Nuggets so for sure they will play as harder as last year.
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September 10, 2023, 04:20:03 AM
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Oh, and Serbia too, without Nikola Jokic I thought they were stopping at the quarter-finals but surprisingly they are now playing for gold. There's so much talent on that team and I bet even the Joker is surprised and happy about what is happening to his country's team.
Sure thing Joker is proud. It's a great feeling to see your fellow countrymen playing excellent basketball in the World Cup,and it's hard not to be proud and happy about their achievements.

But if Joker played in this tournament it might change how Serbia plays and affect the game's result for better or might worst, no one knows. Eventhough Jokic is a superstar having one on your team doesn't always make it better, remember the 2012-13 Lakers season having Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Howard and Steve Nash look how they end up on that season.

He sure is proud. Anyway, never change a winning team, even if it's just hypothetical. With him on the floor of course they seem better, but the smallest changes sometimes can have a big impact.
They are where they are because they played together as a team with a great game plan. No need to think about what could have been.

Basketball isn't Jokic's priority, it's just his job, as he stated himself. He had a long season, won the chip and enjoys his well deserved offseason.
Also, obviously he loves his horses more than basketball.  Grin

They are already in the finals and we don't know what might happen If Joker is playing with them, but for sure he loves seeing the achievements that his fellow countrymen are gaining.

Almost just one more game away from winning the title. I like your comment about what he loves and he really
enjoying his time with his horse.

The upcoming NBA season is nearing, and he's enjoying his break and I'm sure after the enjoyment it will be
back to reality and start conditioning and practicing for another run, chasing for another title.
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September 09, 2023, 10:33:27 PM
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Oh, and Serbia too, without Nikola Jokic I thought they were stopping at the quarter-finals but surprisingly they are now playing for gold. There's so much talent on that team and I bet even the Joker is surprised and happy about what is happening to his country's team.
Sure thing Joker is proud. It's a great feeling to see your fellow countrymen playing excellent basketball in the World Cup,and it's hard not to be proud and happy about their achievements.

But if Joker played in this tournament it might change how Serbia plays and affect the game's result for better or might worst, no one knows. Eventhough Jokic is a superstar having one on your team doesn't always make it better, remember the 2012-13 Lakers season having Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Howard and Steve Nash look how they end up on that season.

He sure is proud. Anyway, never change a winning team, even if it's just hypothetical. With him on the floor of course they seem better, but the smallest changes sometimes can have a big impact.
They are where they are because they played together as a team with a great game plan. No need to think about what could have been.

Basketball isn't Jokic's priority, it's just his job, as he stated himself. He had a long season, won the chip and enjoys his well deserved offseason.
Also, obviously he loves his horses more than basketball.  Grin
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September 09, 2023, 10:26:30 PM
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Oh, and Serbia too, without Nikola Jokic I thought they were stopping at the quarter-finals but surprisingly they are now playing for gold. There's so much talent on that team and I bet even the Joker is surprised and happy about what is happening to his country's team.
Sure thing Joker is proud. It's a great feeling to see your fellow countrymen playing excellent basketball in the World Cup,and it's hard not to be proud and happy about their achievements.

But if Joker played in this tournament it might change how Serbia plays and affect the game's result for better or might worst, no one knows. Eventhough Jokic is a superstar having one on your team doesn't always make it better, remember the 2012-13 Lakers season having Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Howard and Steve Nash look how they end up on that season.

Others though are quickly to criticized Austin Reaves as they said they found a loophole on his game and that is his defense. There were moments that he did guard someone bigger than him in the post and so obviously it's hard for him to guard those players, but sometimes he over react and then in foul trouble in the FIBA tournament.

However, for the next season in the NBA, it might be a different looks though. Lakers had a solid defense overall, and with the addition of big men Hayes and Wood, for sure there will be more rim protection for them.
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September 09, 2023, 08:40:49 PM
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Oh, and Serbia too, without Nikola Jokic I thought they were stopping at the quarter-finals but surprisingly they are now playing for gold. There's so much talent on that team and I bet even the Joker is surprised and happy about what is happening to his country's team.
Sure thing Joker is proud. It's a great feeling to see your fellow countrymen playing excellent basketball in the World Cup,and it's hard not to be proud and happy about their achievements.

But if Joker played in this tournament it might change how Serbia plays and affect the game's result for better or might worst, no one knows. Eventhough Jokic is a superstar having one on your team doesn't always make it better, remember the 2012-13 Lakers season having Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Howard and Steve Nash look how they end up on that season.
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September 09, 2023, 08:27:13 PM
If the US wanted to win this tournament, it easily could.  I'm not sure we will see the US place it's best players back in the Olympics ever again, or at least anytime soon.

Then I think they didn't value the tournament that much, as they didn't send their best players to dominate and win. Well, if we examine the roster of the team, the players are not the best or, let's say, at least not in the top 10 in terms of statistics. But there's no sense in sending players to a tournament if they themselves aren't sure they would win, unless they are underestimating their opponents?

You can certainly make the case that NBA players don’t care about this tournament. Jimmy Butler came out and said as much. I’m sure the players on the floor want to win no matter what though. Sure, the NBA still has the greatest players in the world but the gap is closing and as seen here, without a handful of superstars the gap may be nonexistent.

Some of the games top players are now not from the US.  Doncic, jokic, etc but you are right most of the top players don't want to put extra mileage on themselves, their legacy lies with how many NBA titles they've won not how many international tournaments they won.  If you go deep into the playoffs as well as these other tournaments you break down quicker.  And then there is that chance of injury as well blowing a whole season because of some other tournament. 

European style of play and NBA style are totally different that in a world stage, the result might favor the European because of their built in chemistry and they are used to the rules of the FIBA and they have excellent ball rotation.

Unlike the US wherein it will just rely on their individual talent, same with Canada to win the game. Of course this is going to hurt the NBA players again, but next time they should force their elite players to join the team to represent their country specially in the coming Olympics because it is big when they lose this prestige basketball tournament again.
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September 09, 2023, 08:14:32 PM
If the US wanted to win this tournament, it easily could.  I'm not sure we will see the US place it's best players back in the Olympics ever again, or at least anytime soon.

Then I think they didn't value the tournament that much, as they didn't send their best players to dominate and win. Well, if we examine the roster of the team, the players are not the best or, let's say, at least not in the top 10 in terms of statistics. But there's no sense in sending players to a tournament if they themselves aren't sure they would win, unless they are underestimating their opponents?

You can certainly make the case that NBA players don’t care about this tournament. Jimmy Butler came out and said as much. I’m sure the players on the floor want to win no matter what though. Sure, the NBA still has the greatest players in the world but the gap is closing and as seen here, without a handful of superstars the gap may be nonexistent.

Some of the games top players are now not from the US.  Doncic, jokic, etc but you are right most of the top players don't want to put extra mileage on themselves, their legacy lies with how many NBA titles they've won not how many international tournaments they won.  If you go deep into the playoffs as well as these other tournaments you break down quicker.  And then there is that chance of injury as well blowing a whole season because of some other tournament. 

The other thing people don’t account for is that some of these international teams play with each other quite a bit and in some cases for many years. That makes a big difference when you’re playing against a team of guys thrown together with a few weeks to try and nail down chemistry and how their offense will be run.
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September 09, 2023, 07:57:53 PM
It's just very unfortunate that it will go down again in history as the year that the US didn't win the Gold medal.

At least, we can't compare the current one to the previous World Cup when Team USA also got eliminated where the roster is mostly NBA superstars and best-of-the-best. Since Team USA announced their projective lineup before the official FIBA World Cup this year and following their lineup on their window games, I really have thought that Team USA might not make it to the Finals and I even mentioned that before.

Let's give credit to other countries that have shown improvement in this year's Cup. It doesn't mean that "it's Team USA" they are always the team to beat. Going back to the recent game between Team USA and Team Germany, the game is intense and overall, close. That's always the type of game we want to see at the most crucial stage of this tournament.

Congrats Team Germany for finally making their first appearance in the FIBA World Cup. Dirk Nowitzki is no doubt, surely happy.
He sure is happy right now but will be more happy if they win the championship against Serbia. Oh, and this time Schroder is proving that he should be paid more because of his tenacity as a player. He or his agent made a mistake about that contract thing with the Lakers years ago but this FIBA tournament showed that is really one of the good players in the league in the guard position.
Then, there's the Wagner brothers, Despite that bad incident when Mo Wagner and Killian Hayes got into an altercation and suspended, he is also showing that he ain't just brawling but with skills too.
Oh, and Serbia too, without Nikola Jokic I thought they were stopping at the quarter-finals but surprisingly they are now playing for gold. There's so much talent on that team and I bet even the Joker is surprised and happy about what is happening to his country's team.
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September 09, 2023, 03:15:14 PM
If the US wanted to win this tournament, it easily could.  I'm not sure we will see the US place it's best players back in the Olympics ever again, or at least anytime soon.

Then I think they didn't value the tournament that much, as they didn't send their best players to dominate and win. Well, if we examine the roster of the team, the players are not the best or, let's say, at least not in the top 10 in terms of statistics. But there's no sense in sending players to a tournament if they themselves aren't sure they would win, unless they are underestimating their opponents?

You can certainly make the case that NBA players don’t care about this tournament. Jimmy Butler came out and said as much. I’m sure the players on the floor want to win no matter what though. Sure, the NBA still has the greatest players in the world but the gap is closing and as seen here, without a handful of superstars the gap may be nonexistent.

Some of the games top players are now not from the US.  Doncic, jokic, etc but you are right most of the top players don't want to put extra mileage on themselves, their legacy lies with how many NBA titles they've won not how many international tournaments they won.  If you go deep into the playoffs as well as these other tournaments you break down quicker.  And then there is that chance of injury as well blowing a whole season because of some other tournament. 
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September 09, 2023, 02:28:04 PM
The fact that USA team lost in the Fiba, to a team that didn't had that many NBA players, definitely none that were superstars, is beyond understanding saying stuff like "if we brought in better players", well obviously if try to build the best team ever then you could have won, but so would Greece if they brought in Giannis, or Serbia may even win without Jokic, that doesn't really mean that you are doing fine.

All of the USA team players were from NBA and some of them even best players of their teams, and they still lost, that's a terrible thing and feels like maybe they are not really that much caring of the result, and didn't really play with any type of passion whereas Germany did and that's how they won.
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September 09, 2023, 01:18:09 PM
If the US wanted to win this tournament, it easily could.  I'm not sure we will see the US place it's best players back in the Olympics ever again, or at least anytime soon.

Then I think they didn't value the tournament that much, as they didn't send their best players to dominate and win. Well, if we examine the roster of the team, the players are not the best or, let's say, at least not in the top 10 in terms of statistics. But there's no sense in sending players to a tournament if they themselves aren't sure they would win, unless they are underestimating their opponents?

You can certainly make the case that NBA players don’t care about this tournament. Jimmy Butler came out and said as much. I’m sure the players on the floor want to win no matter what though. Sure, the NBA still has the greatest players in the world but the gap is closing and as seen here, without a handful of superstars the gap may be nonexistent.

Yeah, the gap of NBA among the rest of the world basketball level is very close. In fact, some the prominent NBA players came from country outside US like Giannis, Jokic and many that dominate the NBA. This is a sign that basketball globally is already catching up with the US players while their typical roster that full young NBA players might not be sufficient anymore to win a tournament in the future.

Both Canada and USA has a lot of NBA players yet they are defeated by teams with few NBA players and more on Euro basketball players.
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September 09, 2023, 01:13:23 PM
If the US wanted to win this tournament, it easily could.  I'm not sure we will see the US place it's best players back in the Olympics ever again, or at least anytime soon.

Then I think they didn't value the tournament that much, as they didn't send their best players to dominate and win. Well, if we examine the roster of the team, the players are not the best or, let's say, at least not in the top 10 in terms of statistics. But there's no sense in sending players to a tournament if they themselves aren't sure they would win, unless they are underestimating their opponents?

You can certainly make the case that NBA players don’t care about this tournament. Jimmy Butler came out and said as much. I’m sure the players on the floor want to win no matter what though. Sure, the NBA still has the greatest players in the world but the gap is closing and as seen here, without a handful of superstars the gap may be nonexistent.
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September 09, 2023, 11:58:07 AM
This is indeed a steal for the Lakers here, but I just hope that they should've offered him a bigger amount even if it is just a 2-year deal as they sure already do know his worth and he's not the kind of player who should they doubt first if he can be useful or not because Wood already showed his capabilities during his run with the Mavericks and Rockets where he was averaging very decently whether from the paint or beyond the arc.
Without a doubt, definitely a big steal for a big man who can shoot. What I am curious about is the agent of Christian Wood. Why did they let him sign such a small contract, there will be more teams that will surely offer him something. I am sure they are also not in a rush. Perhaps, it is Wood who wants to play with Lebron James even if he sacrifices his own 2 year salary.
I'm also thinking about that because otherwise, why would they choose this contract if in-fact they can sign another one with a different team that will likely offer them with a much bigger one. Christian Wood already showcased his talent in the league and I know that from that factor alone that he deserves more than this, which really confused me why did they took this offer.

That is why I had a thought that he just wanted to play with the Lakers and be a part of LeBron's history. We cannot really blame for that one because not all players have been offered the same.
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September 09, 2023, 11:53:48 AM
It will be interesting to see if the US can also defend its gold medal in the Olympics next year. The US's most prominent basketball stars usually play only during the Olympics which is why they continue to dominate it through the years while ignoring the FIBA World Cup.

I guess I'm gonna be placing my bet on the USA here.

The US will be very difficult to beat during the Olympics. They will be bringing to Paris their experienced and more proven superstars like Jayson Tatum, Steph Curry, and many more. But I actually feel bored if no teams are capable of giving them a close game. Maybe the Canadian team earned their experience this FIBA and will play better in Paris next year. Serbia will also have around half of their lineup from the NBA including Jokic. The French team will also play at home along with Wembayama who's used to FIBA type of basketball.

I am expecting it will happen, though. In fact, I have seen some articles online that LeBron is also interested in playing in the Olympics. With his leadership, I think Team USA would perform better. The problem with the young Team USA that was sent to compete is that they don't have a good floor general on the court and a veteran who could help the team stay calm under pressure. They relied heavily on their talent, so they were outsmarted by Germany, who had a great floor general in the name of Schröder.
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September 09, 2023, 11:39:07 AM
It's just very unfortunate that it will go down again in history as the year that the US didn't win the Gold medal.

At least, we can't compare the current one to the previous World Cup when Team USA also got eliminated where the roster is mostly NBA superstars and best-of-the-best. Since Team USA announced their projective lineup before the official FIBA World Cup this year and following their lineup on their window games, I really have thought that Team USA might not make it to the Finals and I even mentioned that before.

Let's give credit to other countries that have shown improvement in this year's Cup. It doesn't mean that "it's Team USA" they are always the team to beat. Going back to the recent game between Team USA and Team Germany, the game is intense and overall, close. That's always the type of game we want to see at the most crucial stage of this tournament.

Congrats Team Germany for finally making their first appearance in the FIBA World Cup. Dirk Nowitzki is no doubt, surely happy.

The US always remains the favorite during FIBA World Cups but I am also not expecting them to win. They're young and they lack the FIBA type of experience. It was a close game against the Germans but they were never allowed to have continuous momentum. Edwards started a late rally and nearly pulled it up until he himself committed a big turnover in the dying seconds of the game. Great game and it was fun seeing the favorites lose to the underdogs. I have an ML bet on Canada to also beat the US. It should be fun and intriguing since Canada nearly has a 100% NBA roster.
The hype came back when they had impressive win after losing to Lithuania. Germany has really built a great system that even the best talents in the NBA could not defeat. I say 'best talents' because the USA wouldn't send a team they thought would not win. It was just the experience that was a huge disadvantage on their part. In addition, European teams have already caught up with the fast-paced style of basketball. In the NBA, some players are dominating, namely, Luka, Jokic, and Giannis.

Yeah, the US bounced back strong with a huge destruction on Italy, the only team that beat Serbia. While Germany struggled against Latvia and barely escaped with a win. The FIBA experience is a big factor for this young American team. They are built for endurance since the NBA has a grueling 82 regular games in a few months span which also involves a lot of travels. Whereas in FIBA all players are conditioned for a few weeks of tournament with a 40-minute per game.

It will be interesting to see if the US can also defend its gold medal in the Olympics next year. The US's most prominent basketball stars usually play only during the Olympics which is why they continue to dominate it through the years while ignoring the FIBA World Cup.

I guess I'm gonna be placing my bet on the USA here.

The US will be very difficult to beat during the Olympics. They will be bringing to Paris their experienced and more proven superstars like Jayson Tatum, Steph Curry, and many more. But I actually feel bored if no teams are capable of giving them a close game. Maybe the Canadian team earned their experience this FIBA and will play better in Paris next year. Serbia will also have around half of their lineup from the NBA including Jokic. The French team will also play at home along with Wembayama who's used to FIBA type of basketball.
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September 09, 2023, 11:26:54 AM
If the US wanted to win this tournament, it easily could.  I'm not sure we will see the US place it's best players back in the Olympics ever again, or at least anytime soon.

Then I think they didn't value the tournament that much, as they didn't send their best players to dominate and win. Well, if we examine the roster of the team, the players are not the best or, let's say, at least not in the top 10 in terms of statistics. But there's no sense in sending players to a tournament if they themselves aren't sure they would win, unless they are underestimating their opponents?
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September 09, 2023, 11:22:03 AM
I just saw that team USA lost to Germany by two points.  Close one. I find it humorous that people actually think that the USA has lost the title for "best basketball players in the world".  Just looking through the box score ( https://www.espn.com/fiba/boxscore/_/gameId/401596632 ) you can see how team USA isn't filled with the super star players.  If the US wanted to win this tournament, it easily could.  I'm not sure we will see the US place it's best players back in the Olympics ever again, or at least anytime soon.
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September 09, 2023, 11:04:23 AM
It's just very unfortunate that it will go down again in history as the year that the US didn't win the Gold medal.

At least, we can't compare the current one to the previous World Cup when Team USA also got eliminated where the roster is mostly NBA superstars and best-of-the-best. Since Team USA announced their projective lineup before the official FIBA World Cup this year and following their lineup on their window games, I really have thought that Team USA might not make it to the Finals and I even mentioned that before.

Let's give credit to other countries that have shown improvement in this year's Cup. It doesn't mean that "it's Team USA" they are always the team to beat. Going back to the recent game between Team USA and Team Germany, the game is intense and overall, close. That's always the type of game we want to see at the most crucial stage of this tournament.

Congrats Team Germany for finally making their first appearance in the FIBA World Cup. Dirk Nowitzki is no doubt, surely happy.

The US always remains the favorite during FIBA World Cups but I am also not expecting them to win. They're young and they lack the FIBA type of experience. It was a close game against the Germans but they were never allowed to have continuous momentum. Edwards started a late rally and nearly pulled it up until he himself committed a big turnover in the dying seconds of the game. Great game and it was fun seeing the favorites lose to the underdogs. I have an ML bet on Canada to also beat the US. It should be fun and intriguing since Canada nearly has a 100% NBA roster.
The hype came back when they had impressive win after losing to Lithuania. Germany has really built a great system that even the best talents in the NBA could not defeat. I say 'best talents' because the USA wouldn't send a team they thought would not win. It was just the experience that was a huge disadvantage on their part. In addition, European teams have already caught up with the fast-paced style of basketball. In the NBA, some players are dominating, namely, Luka, Jokic, and Giannis.


It will be interesting to see if the US can also defend its gold medal in the Olympics next year. The US's most prominent basketball stars usually play only during the Olympics which is why they continue to dominate it through the years while ignoring the FIBA World Cup.

I guess I'm gonna be placing my bet on the USA here.
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