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legendary
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January 12, 2023, 04:59:03 PM
Declining offer in the NBA can become a worse case scenario if you don't have any second plan or someone already have offered you behind the curtain to decline any extension. We already seen some NBA players declining their contract extension and they quickly regret it because their calculations was wrong and they haven't receive the same offer since then. Let's see how will it turned out for JC this time.
Keyword: Dennis Schroder.  Cheesy
I don't know what Clarkson is thinking if ever this is true, the link is unknown to me so I won't jump the gun yet. from @boyptc
But if ever it happens I'd accept what Jazz is offering. It doesn't mean a bigger salary once they put you in the starter unit from the 6th man of the year.
He is changing, I guess it's too obvious not to see.

If I'm not mistaken, Marc Stein also reported this one mate. In any case, it's obvious that Clarkson is looking for a more lucrative contract that the Jazz have offer to him. And besides, they already clear up some of it's player and probably Clarkson doesn't want to stay too and wanted to test the market. It's a big risk for him, he is already 31 years old and probably looking for like 4 year contract which other team might not be willing to give him at this point in his career. There might be some teams are interested, but he could be disappointed on what they are going to offer him. So we will see what the future holds for Clarkson hopefully it will favor him not like Dennis Schroder  Grin.

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January 12, 2023, 04:33:24 PM
I just saw this news that have been reported a few days ago. Jordan Clarkson declined Utah's contract extension.

--> https://www.slcdunk.com/2023/1/7/23544360/report-jordan-clarkson-rejected-utah-jazz-contract-extension-offer

And while browsing some news on the web, I've seen this article that he has bought a mansion in San Antonio.

--> https://frontofficesports.com/jordan-clarkson-mansion-san-antonio/

Yeah, you get the idea of what I'm thinking but it's not yet official and what teams do you think will be rushing to take him?

I heard about him declining the offer, maybe the offer is too low compared to his status now, but I have no idea that he bought a mansion in san Antonio. If we will use it as a hint, then most probably he is gonna with the Spurs and I think Spurs have enough salary cap to offer him a better contract. However, I think this team won't still make it to the playoffs.

Maybe the mansions in San Antonio is a good investment, and not necessarily him living in Texas to join the Spurs? Cheesy But yeah there are rumors but no official statement released just yet. Clarkson is doing quite okay with Jazz, but a player like him would surely want a higher salary even if they don't make it to the playoffs. Maximize the profits first, then chase greatness second: I think this is the play that most NBA players are going after in this day and age.

Declining offer in the NBA can become a worse case scenario if you don't have any second plan or someone already have offered you behind the curtain to decline any extension. We already seen some NBA players declining their contract extension and they quickly regret it because their calculations was wrong and they haven't receive the same offer since then. Let's see how will it turned out for JC this time.
Keyword: Dennis Schroder.  Cheesy

Dude miscalculated heavily rejecting that extension. If he play by the rules before making his own plays in the league, he could have enjoyed that $80m before going to aim for a free agent with high salary. Overestimating oneself is always bad. He knows his value, but I think he believed so much that other teams are looking to snag him the moment he becomes available, which unfortunately wasn't the case.

I don't know what Clarkson is thinking if ever this is true, the link is unknown to me so I won't jump the gun yet. from @boyptc
But if ever it happens I'd accept what Jazz is offering. It doesn't mean a bigger salary once they put you in the starter unit from the 6th man of the year.
He is changing, I guess it's too obvious not to see.
Bigger markets might be his target but being the face of the franchise is also a goal most NBA players are trying to achieve. He is now part of that duo with Markkanen and I think the Jazz management likes to keep it that way.
But, if he will force this kind of decision then he might find himself hanging waiting for a new contract.

Jordan Clarkson is one of those players that are above-average but not something that you would want to get if there are also other options available. He's a good all-rounder with shooting capabilities and a sense of defense, but everyone can do what he does on the court with proper teammates. Hopefully he stays with Jazz and increase his value first before moving somewhere else and not making a mistake that he'll regret.
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January 12, 2023, 04:11:58 PM
Yep completely a KNICK Homer but Jalen Brunson has been an absolute steal in free agency.  Everyone kept saying how the Knicks overpaid, by the end of his contract it might one of the best value contracts in all of NBA.  dude is so clutch in the 4th.  And my boy grimes killing it in the end. 
One of the best steals by the Knicks. Thanks to Luka having that big rest in the playoffs he was given more minutes to flex his skills and it's all worth the hard work he did.
Brunson is putting great numbers in his stats. What's more amazing is it doesn't come mostly from long-distance shots.
In that game against the Milwaukee Bucks, he registered 44 points but he only made 4 three's which means 32 points came from the paint or the free-throw line.
And that came from a 6'1 player which is literally the smallest guy on the floor.  Grin How I wish Knicks will keep this guy for a long time and build a team on him.
Man what an ugly game by the Bulls tonight. I am glad I didn’t put down any more btc on it than I did.  They might not have Demar right now, but they don’t need him to be beating teams like the freakin Washington Wizards.  All I can do as a Bulls fan right now is sit and hope for Ball to come back and everyone be healthy, then maybe they’ll have something.
Worst, the Wizards only have Kuzma as a star. KP and Beal are out.
The big question that still loiters in my head is what LaVine did at that last possession. What is he thinking and how come he is trying to shoot a deuce in a 3-point lead game?

Me too.  Dude is a winner.  Led the Villanova team to 2 finals in college.  Has always balled out and is just getting better each year.  Luka is ball dominant so he wasn't being used right over in Dallas.  Knicks got him for 4 years so let's see what the Knicks can put around him.  He isn't even in his prime years yet.  Need grimes to step up then they could have theor back court locked up for awhile.
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January 12, 2023, 04:05:30 PM
Sengun had his first career triple double, and the youngest ever to have this at centre position as well. That kid looks like he could be something special given the right training and right way to use him, he is not bad at passing at all, and a passing centre is very vital in todays NBA considering it's a guard scoring heavy league.

Even Jokic doesn't feel the need to score every night if he could get his teammates scoring a lot, and three pointers are a lot more important. Most of his assists came from picks as well, he sets a pick with the ball in his hand, that's is move and he rolls to the paint as well so you either let the guard score, or you leave Sengun empty which he can score easily there too.
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January 12, 2023, 03:25:16 PM
Declining offer in the NBA can become a worse case scenario if you don't have any second plan or someone already have offered you behind the curtain to decline any extension. We already seen some NBA players declining their contract extension and they quickly regret it because their calculations was wrong and they haven't receive the same offer since then. Let's see how will it turned out for JC this time.
Keyword: Dennis Schroder.  Cheesy
I don't know what Clarkson is thinking if ever this is true, the link is unknown to me so I won't jump the gun yet. from @boyptc
But if ever it happens I'd accept what Jazz is offering. It doesn't mean a bigger salary once they put you in the starter unit from the 6th man of the year.
He is changing, I guess it's too obvious not to see.
Bigger markets might be his target but being the face of the franchise is also a goal most NBA players are trying to achieve. He is now part of that duo with Markkanen and I think the Jazz management likes to keep it that way.
But, if he will force this kind of decision then he might find himself hanging waiting for a new contract.
But Schroder says "There never was a contract". The report says Lakers approached his representatives but they preferred to wait until the offseason. I guess it will be different for Clarkson this time. Clarkson was raised in San Antonio and he already bought a mansion. Maybe there is ongoing negotiation behind the curtain doing by his representatives. Also, he is doing better than Schroder now.
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January 12, 2023, 03:18:53 PM
I just saw this news that have been reported a few days ago. Jordan Clarkson declined Utah's contract extension.

--> https://www.slcdunk.com/2023/1/7/23544360/report-jordan-clarkson-rejected-utah-jazz-contract-extension-offer

And while browsing some news on the web, I've seen this article that he has bought a mansion in San Antonio.

--> https://frontofficesports.com/jordan-clarkson-mansion-san-antonio/

Yeah, you get the idea of what I'm thinking but it's not yet official and what teams do you think will be rushing to take him?

I heard about him declining the offer, maybe the offer is too low compared to his status now, but I have no idea that he bought a mansion in san Antonio. If we will use it as a hint, then most probably he is gonna with the Spurs and I think Spurs have enough salary cap to offer him a better contract. However, I think this team won't still make it to the playoffs.
I'd still wait for some announcement on this and what will be the development on this one. But as for his mansion, I've just seen it and have that thought that he might be going there.

Anyway, still a big possibility that any team would like to take him as he's known for bringing Utah Jazz up when he's still there. Maybe going to the Lakers again? Hmmm...

Keyword: Dennis Schroder.  Cheesy
I don't know what Clarkson is thinking if ever this is true, the link is unknown to me so I won't jump the gun yet. from @boyptc
But if ever it happens I'd accept what Jazz is offering. It doesn't mean a bigger salary once they put you in the starter unit from the 6th man of the year.
He is changing, I guess it's too obvious not to see.
Bigger markets might be his target but being the face of the franchise is also a goal most NBA players are trying to achieve. He is now part of that duo with Markkanen and I think the Jazz management likes to keep it that way.
But, if he will force this kind of decision then he might find himself hanging waiting for a new contract.
Yes, he's been the face of Utah Jazz but we don't know with his decisions as he knows what's better up to the best for him.

And as for the link, you can look for other similar headlines by searching on it.
legendary
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January 12, 2023, 02:24:12 PM
Keyword: Dennis Schroder.  Cheesy
I don't know what Clarkson is thinking if ever this is true, the link is unknown to me so I won't jump the gun yet. from @boyptc
But if ever it happens I'd accept what Jazz is offering. It doesn't mean a bigger salary once they put you in the starter unit from the 6th man of the year.
He is changing, I guess it's too obvious not to see.
Bigger markets might be his target but being the face of the franchise is also a goal most NBA players are trying to achieve. He is now part of that duo with Markkanen and I think the Jazz management likes to keep it that way.
But, if he will force this kind of decision then he might find himself hanging waiting for a new contract.

Yeah, Schroder was overconfident at that moment, and as a result, he probably made the biggest mistake of his life by turning down that $84 million contract extension with the Lakers. As for Clarkson, it's worth noting that he's progressing well, as he averages 20.7 points per game this season. So I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes an unrestricted free agent in hopes of getting a big contract during the offseason.
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January 12, 2023, 09:14:08 AM
Declining offer in the NBA can become a worse case scenario if you don't have any second plan or someone already have offered you behind the curtain to decline any extension. We already seen some NBA players declining their contract extension and they quickly regret it because their calculations was wrong and they haven't receive the same offer since then. Let's see how will it turned out for JC this time.
Keyword: Dennis Schroder.  Cheesy
I don't know what Clarkson is thinking if ever this is true, the link is unknown to me so I won't jump the gun yet. from @boyptc
But if ever it happens I'd accept what Jazz is offering. It doesn't mean a bigger salary once they put you in the starter unit from the 6th man of the year.
He is changing, I guess it's too obvious not to see.
Bigger markets might be his target but being the face of the franchise is also a goal most NBA players are trying to achieve. He is now part of that duo with Markkanen and I think the Jazz management likes to keep it that way.
But, if he will force this kind of decision then he might find himself hanging waiting for a new contract.
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January 12, 2023, 09:01:22 AM
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I think Spurs have enough salary cap to offer him a better contract.
They're not the team that spends outrageous amount of money that easily so they definitely have some space. Their projected available cap is around $27.1 million while maximum possible is around $49.8 million https://www.spotrac.com/nba/san-antonio-spurs/cap/

Those above figures looks better than Clarkson's current salary at Jazz. The man is probably playing it smart if his rumored extension decline is true. He knows he's not getting any ring soon so why not have a bigger pay day while he still has something to offer?
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January 12, 2023, 08:41:42 AM
Nets is not good at all, and I can see why people think that they are confused about a second seed team being "not good" according to me. But that's just the facts because they had Durant and he could will a team there but they are not a good team at all.

A great scorer could carry a team during regular season because opponents will want to beat you normally but if you put up too much of a fight, they may give up, or simply they are not playing great defense on regular season. However, when it comes time for playoffs, they are just not going to be good AT ALL, they will suck, either with Durant or obviously without him, this team will not be nowhere near enough levels for a good run.
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January 12, 2023, 08:13:10 AM

I heard about him declining the offer, maybe the offer is too low compared to his status now, but I have no idea that he bought a mansion in san Antonio. If we will use it as a hint, then most probably he is gonna with the Spurs and I think Spurs have enough salary cap to offer him a better contract. However, I think this team won't still make it to the playoffs.

Declining offer in the NBA can become a worse case scenario if you don't have any second plan or someone already have offered you behind the curtain to decline any extension. We already seen some NBA players declining their contract extension and they quickly regret it because their calculations was wrong and they haven't receive the same offer since then. Let's see how will it turned out for JC this time.
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January 12, 2023, 06:18:50 AM
I just saw this news that have been reported a few days ago. Jordan Clarkson declined Utah's contract extension.

--> https://www.slcdunk.com/2023/1/7/23544360/report-jordan-clarkson-rejected-utah-jazz-contract-extension-offer

And while browsing some news on the web, I've seen this article that he has bought a mansion in San Antonio.

--> https://frontofficesports.com/jordan-clarkson-mansion-san-antonio/

Yeah, you get the idea of what I'm thinking but it's not yet official and what teams do you think will be rushing to take him?

I heard about him declining the offer, maybe the offer is too low compared to his status now, but I have no idea that he bought a mansion in san Antonio. If we will use it as a hint, then most probably he is gonna with the Spurs and I think Spurs have enough salary cap to offer him a better contract. However, I think this team won't still make it to the playoffs.
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January 12, 2023, 06:00:13 AM
I just saw this news that have been reported a few days ago. Jordan Clarkson declined Utah's contract extension.

--> https://www.slcdunk.com/2023/1/7/23544360/report-jordan-clarkson-rejected-utah-jazz-contract-extension-offer

And while browsing some news on the web, I've seen this article that he has bought a mansion in San Antonio.

--> https://frontofficesports.com/jordan-clarkson-mansion-san-antonio/

Yeah, you get the idea of what I'm thinking but it's not yet official and what teams do you think will be rushing to take him?
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January 12, 2023, 05:48:55 AM
Yep completely a KNICK Homer but Jalen Brunson has been an absolute steal in free agency.  Everyone kept saying how the Knicks overpaid, by the end of his contract it might one of the best value contracts in all of NBA.  dude is so clutch in the 4th.  And my boy grimes killing it in the end. 
One of the best steals by the Knicks. Thanks to Luka having that big rest in the playoffs he was given more minutes to flex his skills and it's all worth the hard work he did.
Brunson is putting great numbers in his stats. What's more amazing is it doesn't come mostly from long-distance shots.
In that game against the Milwaukee Bucks, he registered 44 points but he only made 4 three's which means 32 points came from the paint or the free-throw line.
And that came from a 6'1 player which is literally the smallest guy on the floor.  Grin How I wish Knicks will keep this guy for a long time and build a team on him.
Man what an ugly game by the Bulls tonight. I am glad I didn’t put down any more btc on it than I did.  They might not have Demar right now, but they don’t need him to be beating teams like the freakin Washington Wizards.  All I can do as a Bulls fan right now is sit and hope for Ball to come back and everyone be healthy, then maybe they’ll have something.
Worst, the Wizards only have Kuzma as a star. KP and Beal are out.
The big question that still loiters in my head is what LaVine did at that last possession. What is he thinking and how come he is trying to shoot a deuce in a 3-point lead game?
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January 12, 2023, 03:26:22 AM

Another bad decision by the Lakers management.
What can Cousins give to boost the Lakers right now? I mean I don't see him that impactful if this rumor will turn out to be true.
I don't think he is a bad addition to the Lakers team. he is an all around player, he can shoot outside and could also produce inside. Haven't you witnessed his contribution in the playoffs playing with the Nuggets last season? I think he is really great, they just need to manage his minutes pretty well.

Thomas Bryant averages only 13 points and 7.3 rebounds, but he is easy to predict as most of his production is inside, not a treat outside like Cousins.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanth01.html
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January 12, 2023, 02:36:43 AM
There is a rumor that Lakers want to bring DeMarcus Cousins back. He is expected to work out for the Lakers soon as the report says. Idk if Cousins is the right guy they are looking for that can help the Lakers get a spot in the playoffs and battle their way. Just like AD, he is injury prone. The last time I saw him playing well is with Warriors. Russ is doing fine in their last 4 games but not enough. If only Russ and Schroder are consistent, that way they have a better chance of getting into playoffs.

The Lakers have Thomas Bryant, who has been playing pretty well lately, and I think he partially replaces Davis. So I'm not sure Cousins is needed by the Lakers, given that he's unlikely to be useful to the team due to his injury-prone nature. By the way, Cousins only averaged 9 points and 5.6 rebounds per game last season. To be honest, I feel sorry for him as he's only 32 years old, and he could have been in his prime, but that injury destroyed his career.
Another bad decision by the Lakers management.
What can Cousins give to boost the Lakers right now? I mean I don't see him that impactful if this rumor will turn out to be true.

Besides, they already have Thomas Bryant like you said and Wenyen Gabriel as their 2nd big in absence of Davis. Davis and Cousins reunion maybe? Remember they're teammates in New Orleans years ago Cheesy. Nevertheless, Cousins was an all-star player back when he was in the Kings, but like you said, injuries destroyed his whole career, and I don't think that there is a way for him to be a better player at this moment.

Yep completely a KNICK Homer but Jalen Brunson has been an absolute steal in free agency.  Everyone kept saying how the Knicks overpaid, by the end of his contract it might one of the best value contracts in all of NBA.  dude is so clutch in the 4th.  And my boy grimes killing it in the end. 
The Mavericks gave him a low contract which he doesn't deserve TBH. Now the Knicks got him, and tides have turned with the team. They are better now compared to the Knicks last season. He is having his best season of his career. Can we just see him on the all-star next month because of how he is playing right now with the Knicks?
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January 12, 2023, 02:23:38 AM
Yep completely a KNICK Homer but Jalen Brunson has been an absolute steal in free agency.  Everyone kept saying how the Knicks overpaid, by the end of his contract it might one of the best value contracts in all of NBA.  dude is so clutch in the 4th.  And my boy grimes killing it in the end. 

Indian able to come back bro, I don't know but it seemed like they don't know how to protect their good lead, good thing they won the game and also cover the spread. Brunson is such a great steal, he was exposed when he was in Dallas, this guy really has the talent and could become a superstar one day.

He was really playing good when he was in Dallas, and we all know that he wanted to play with the Knicks. So it's good that he got what he deserved, plus the money too and now he is confident with them and even have games wherein he scored 40 or more points, so it was really a style.

And it looks like the team 2 years ago, playoff bound and very confident. Unlike last year wherein the MSG fans themselves booed even with Julius Randle. Now Julius seems to find his groove again with this set of players around him.
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January 12, 2023, 02:07:26 AM
Man what an ugly game by the Bulls tonight. I am glad I didn’t put down any more btc on it than I did.  They might not have Demar right now, but they don’t need him to be beating teams like the freakin Washington Wizards.  All I can do as a Bulls fan right now is sit and hope for Ball to come back and everyone be healthy, then maybe they’ll have something.

I agree, I put some money on them handicap man, ouch, they have a big lead that they squandered and they think they can just go back and fight it out in the 4th quarter. They were outscored 41-21 in the 3rd? it's either they didn't play defense or that Wizard is very lucky to hit most of their shot, high percentage shot inside and outside. I might stay away from beating on them because of this performance. I think even without DeMar they can beat a tired Wizard team without Porzingis and Beal at the lineup.
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January 12, 2023, 01:45:53 AM
Man what an ugly game by the Bulls tonight. I am glad I didn’t put down any more btc on it than I did.  They might not have Demar right now, but they don’t need him to be beating teams like the freakin Washington Wizards.  All I can do as a Bulls fan right now is sit and hope for Ball to come back and everyone be healthy, then maybe they’ll have something.

No Derozan, and Lavine was playing pretty good in the last 4 games including tonight.However, it was never enough as Monte Morris turned the game around late in the 3rd quarter with the help of Kuzma. The bulls could've win this game if Lavine get enough help from the other to score.
I though the Bulls would blow out the Wizards as they got a comfortable lead in the end of the first half.

Yeah, it just baffled me how the Bulls will let this one slip away. They were leading up to the end of the 2nd quarter. But they were out scored in the 3rd by 20 points but they put a good defense in the 4th as they got back to the game.

But it was not enough for the Bulls, Zach Lavine 38 points and Vucevic with 15 and White with 13 and it's not enough.

Kuzma lead the Wizards with KP with 21, and Morris and Anthony Gil with 17 and 18 points to help them get this big win.
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January 12, 2023, 01:21:25 AM
There is a rumor that Lakers want to bring DeMarcus Cousins back. He is expected to work out for the Lakers soon as the report says. Idk if Cousins is the right guy they are looking for that can help the Lakers get a spot in the playoffs and battle their way. Just like AD, he is injury prone. The last time I saw him playing well is with Warriors. Russ is doing fine in their last 4 games but not enough. If only Russ and Schroder are consistent, that way they have a better chance of getting into playoffs.

The Lakers have Thomas Bryant, who has been playing pretty well lately, and I think he partially replaces Davis. So I'm not sure Cousins is needed by the Lakers, given that he's unlikely to be useful to the team due to his injury-prone nature. By the way, Cousins only averaged 9 points and 5.6 rebounds per game last season. To be honest, I feel sorry for him as he's only 32 years old, and he could have been in his prime, but that injury destroyed his career.

Yes, Thomas Bryant i doing good filling the void that Davis has left for the meantime and he is instrumental for bringing the Lakers to their winning streak and if I'm memory serves me right, he has game wherein he scored almost 30 points.

So no need to bring a experience player like Cousins, who also had some problems with this attitude and technical fouls.

And they don't need such kind of players right now, they have settled down a bit, they just need to bring Davis back again in the rotation and Thomas Bryant a good back up for now.

I see how Bryant adjusts with his role while AD is not around. Good thing that the rotation is also including him as a good option. Sometimes when you feel you are going to receive the pass, you will be more inspired to play good game.

Supporting you with your insight with adding Cousin, it will be tough for them if the opponent
use a running offense. We know how slow is Cousin now, though his offense still good if giving a
chance for one on one but 2-way player is what the lakers need while AD is still resting.
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