2019 the Bullrun year? ( many aspects )

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Quote from: Adriano2010 on January 17, 2019, 11:21:37 PM

I think it can be a bull run if a lot of people will invest on bitcoin via Bakkt. Until then i think the bitcoin is still a good bet and a nice profit can be made this year, not like last year when to market go down and again down.

Expecting the same thing with the Bitcoin investment, but people who already invested at the very high value should patiently wait for the price recovery. This year we are going to hear much positivity about the Bitcoin but nobody doesn't have any prediction whether we can see bull run this year or not.

Well said, always patience is much required with the cryptocurrency market. It is good to have the worst case in mind and do things accordingly. Such a mentality will give the best outcome, because even the market turn bullish it'll make you feel good and if the market goes bearish it can be handled without big loss. I'm prepared for the year and completely focused on 2020.

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Quote from: Adriano2010 on January 17, 2019, 11:21:37 PM

I think it can be a bull run if a lot of people will invest on bitcoin via Bakkt. Until then i think the bitcoin is still a good bet and a nice profit can be made this year, not like last year when to market go down and again down.

Expecting the same thing with the Bitcoin investment, but people who already invested at the very high value should patiently wait for the price recovery. This year we are going to hear much positivity about the Bitcoin but nobody doesn't have any prediction whether we can see bull run this year or not.

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Quote from: ChangeNOW on January 16, 2019, 10:13:08 AM

It's highly likely that the bull run will come this year, but if it does, it's probably going to happen in Q3 or Q4.

I don't mind it happening in the last quarter of the year as long as it comes since we have been waiting for the bull for so long.
This would change the mindset of the people again and of course we are going to repeat the history, another FOMO incoming.

Quote from: huhhuh18 on January 17, 2019, 05:04:33 PM

Well, you may be right buddy. This is crypto and I also believe that there are so many good news and sentiments around that could push a bull run this year.

This is crypto and we've been surprise in the past and I expect a big surprise this year as well. The last two years was actually full of surprise, 2017 we didn't expect a bull run, it come, in 2018 we expect it, it didn't.

Quote from: Adriano2010 on January 17, 2019, 11:21:37 PM

I think it can be a bull run if a lot of people will invest on bitcoin via Bakkt. Until then i think the bitcoin is still a good bet and a nice profit can be made this year, not like last year when to market go down and again down.

I don't put my whole trust on Bakkt to see the bull run, it might be one of the factor but it's not a big thing, we will see after it launched, we better check on ourselves first than speculate things would happen easily, remember, crypto market seems to be different now.

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Quote from: tulpe12 on January 15, 2019, 06:00:49 PM

Hello

do u think 2019 will be a bullrun start?

i personally think it has potencial due to BAKKT,Nasdaq and Vaneck Solidx Futures.

Also the Bitcoinhalving is coming 2020, to avoid maybe high bitcoin prices ,the buy orders might start in the second half of 2019.

at the other handside, we are still in a hard redline bearphase, and its hard to say if those aspects will be a positive run as the volume right now is mostly dead. some pump and dumps of whales to play around

i want to her your opinion.

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A recovery in the price of bitcoin is possible but none of the factors that you give for a bull run seem very convincing to me, the halving will happen until 2020 and for what I have seen we need a few months for the effects to be felt, and for the rest I do not see an ETF being approved soon and even if it did happen that will not necessarily generate more demand, so I see this year as uneventful for bitcoin and for most coins in the market.

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I think it can be a bull run if a lot of people will invest on bitcoin via Bakkt. Until then i think the bitcoin is still a good bet and a nice profit can be made this year, not like last year when to market go down and again down.

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Quote from: Stedsm on January 16, 2019, 06:06:45 PM

Volume is dead? Who said that?
Compare how much Fiat was used to pump up BTC to 20k, it's not that easy now. Games have changed after futures and shorts came into effect.

This is the big hindrance for our growth now, we will not be able to see a consistent pump again without a good reason because this people can also short the market for them to make money, We are now in the real world like stocks trading and bitcoin company are betting against each other based on their so we need to adopt with their game.

We need to be flexible and willing to embrace changes, the game changer still being hold by the bag holders, they still have the control from what momentum the rise to happen and what influence can make some changes around the market, there's a big money which is involved before the actual bull can be seen running so strong and it will continuously rise from time to time.

Soon we will probably see big money in the market, but for now, we saw it's only a correction and price still not bullish.
But 2019 is still early so we cannot judge early, we need to stay focus on what we believe because eventually when the market will recover, bull run might be next.

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Quote from: Febo on January 17, 2019, 05:28:18 PM

Quote from: tulpe12 on January 15, 2019, 06:00:49 PM

do u think 2019 will be a bullrun start?

i personally think it has potencial due to BAKKT,Nasdaq and Vaneck Solidx Futures.

Also the Bitcoin halving is coming 2020, to avoid maybe high bitcoin prices ,the buy orders might start in the second half of 2019.

If it will it will at end of the year. But most likely it will in 2020.

It will be another very hard bearish time of the year considering the fact that this year we will be having a bunch of winter soldier. I hope it something will going to happen to start moving the price a little bit higher instead of going deeper. Another bottom is good for investors but for traders, it isn't, it's a slow processing progress.

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Quote from: tulpe12 on January 15, 2019, 06:00:49 PM

do u think 2019 will be a bullrun start?

i personally think it has potencial due to BAKKT,Nasdaq and Vaneck Solidx Futures.

Also the Bitcoin halving is coming 2020, to avoid maybe high bitcoin prices ,the buy orders might start in the second half of 2019.

If it will it will at end of the year. But most likely it will in 2020.

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Well, you may be right buddy. This is crypto and I also believe that there are so many good news and sentiments around that could push a bull run this year.

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Quote from: gentlemand on January 17, 2019, 04:25:46 PM

Quote from: exstasie on January 17, 2019, 03:57:02 PM

I really sympathize with that. In 2015, I was still really skeptical. "It's just a niche currency, the bubble's over" etc. But after experiencing a second bubble (and seeing 3 on the charts), it just seems foolish to keep trying to rationalize away Bitcoin's appeal and utility and also its supply/demand dynamics.

"In the bag" is further than I'm willing to say, but I'm definitely way more confident in 2019 than I was in 2015. That's for sure.

I'm not disputing future popularity. The bottom of a plunge is just as irrational as the top of a bubble. Sentiment will turn. What I do have a bit of an issue with is the certainty of the timing that some people seem to have. The late 2020/21 peak in six figures is rolled out more often than any other guess.

I think if you took a poll of public opinion, most people still think that's batshit crazy. The six and seven figure predictors are still on the fringes.

Personally, I'm more surprised about how conservative peoples' predictions are. Everywhere I look, people throw out numbers like $50K and $100K. It's possible to go massively higher than that, by orders of magnitude. There's a general assumption most people seem to make, that growth follows a log trend (or even slower than that). They're writing off the possibility that adoption might follow an S-curve.

In an S-curve model, adoption hasn't even gone vertical yet.

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Quote from: exstasie on January 17, 2019, 03:57:02 PM

I really sympathize with that. In 2015, I was still really skeptical. "It's just a niche currency, the bubble's over" etc. But after experiencing a second bubble (and seeing 3 on the charts), it just seems foolish to keep trying to rationalize away Bitcoin's appeal and utility and also its supply/demand dynamics.

"In the bag" is further than I'm willing to say, but I'm definitely way more confident in 2019 than I was in 2015. That's for sure.

I'm not disputing future popularity. The bottom of a plunge is just as irrational as the top of a bubble. Sentiment will turn. What I do have a bit of an issue with is the certainty of the timing that some people seem to have. The late 2020/21 peak in six figures is rolled out more often than any other guess.

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Quote from: gentlemand on January 15, 2019, 11:20:58 PM

Quote from: exstasie on January 15, 2019, 10:09:20 PM

The timing of it all sounds about right. I think at the consumer level it took 15-20 years for cell phones to penetrate most of the market. I've always thought Bitcoin would follow an adoption curve like that.

That said, we've got to keep in mind how Bitcoin adds a whole new financial incentive to the idea of technology adoption (limited supply vs. increasing demand/adoption). People will always try to front-run the market and get in early. By the time it's truly delivering on all its promises, all the gains based on speculation should already be realized, more or less.

More than a few People are talking about it like it's already in the bag in a way they definitely weren't in 2015. I guess we have another halving to draw on since then but that's still a bit nuts.

I really sympathize with that. In 2015, I was still really skeptical. "It's just a niche currency, the bubble's over" etc. But after experiencing a second bubble (and seeing 3 on the charts), it just seems foolish to keep trying to rationalize away Bitcoin's appeal and utility and also its supply/demand dynamics.

"In the bag" is further than I'm willing to say, but I'm definitely way more confident in 2019 than I was in 2015. That's for sure.

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Quote from: tulpe12 on January 15, 2019, 06:00:49 PM

Hello

do u think 2019 will be a bullrun start?

i personally think it has potencial due to BAKKT,Nasdaq and Vaneck Solidx Futures.

Also the Bitcoinhalving is coming 2020, to avoid maybe high bitcoin prices ,the buy orders might start in the second half of 2019.

at the other handside, we are still in a hard redline bearphase, and its hard to say if those aspects will be a positive run as the volume right now is mostly dead. some pump and dumps of whales to play around

i want to her your opinion.

BTC I TRUST, HODL I MUST ( Master Yoda )

Nobody can predict the price of bitcoin and it's proven on what happened last year as we have many predictions that it will make a bull run on December 2018 and they all failed to the real scenario of the market. Everything will depend on the daily demand which the current market has less demand that makes the price go down slowly. I will be optimistic that those coming big events in crypto will help increase the price for this year if those manipulators will take to ride the rally.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 16, 2019, 11:45:21 PM

I think it doesn't matter if ETF is rejected or approve and I don't think that the price will increase suddenly. What we need to see the bull market is attracting more and more people to come and buy bitcoin and makes them realize that bitcoin is the best digital investment. The mass adoption itself will make bitcoin spreads into many people in out there, and I am sure many of them will invest their money in bitcoin, and in the end, this will make the bull will come again.

Hey while the rejection of Bitcoins Etf will not trigger a collapse, I believe we will see minor volatility or not even that as the possibilities of it being rejected has already been discounted by the market. I’ll disagree with you on the point we may not see a rally, if it’s approved we definitely will see a major rally. Indeed you’re right that adoption is the key, as more adoption will further fuel bitcoins prices and lead a rally.

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Quote from: chulos on January 16, 2019, 10:04:06 AM

Many expect the price to fall further below $ 3k. Bull run i would welcome (for the market it would be positive), but i do not think it will come so soon.

That's great for the market. The more people think like that and wait with buying, the harder they will fomo in when they start to realize that the price won't be going below $3000 at all.

Quote from: arpon11 on January 17, 2019, 02:52:31 AM

Investors especially the institutionalized one are going to come into cryptocurrencies market this year and because of that some of them have started buying bitcoin privately and if we start to see them buying bitcoin in public then we should expect bitcoin to rise in pricing.

Institutions have been in the game for years, so don't expect them to pump the price for you. They entered silently, and they'll do it again without anyone noticing. By the time we're going through another bull run hype they'll announce their platforms and products to make it seem like institutions are entering, but in reality it's just people and crypto funds fomo'ing causing the price to increase.

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Quote from: Pursuer on January 17, 2019, 08:10:15 AM

Quote from: bintangkejoraku on January 16, 2019, 05:50:24 PM

to be honest, at the moment I am quite hesitant about bull in 2019, I say this because I see the market power is getting weaker. in my opinion our only hope for seeing a bull is an approved ETF.

for 10 years bitcoin rose millions of percentage without ETF or any other type of government issued crap like it and for many years more we will continue seeing bitcoin rise without them. right now things are exactly like 2014 when price hit $200 and stayed there with people getting disappointed and hopeless about the rises. the next leg up will be swift and big because of that.

Hopefully. Back then btc wasn't as well known as this and isn't getting attacks from media and some governments. Now people have more reasons to doubt whether it's a good investment with the 2018 decline adding to their consideration.

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Quote from: bintangkejoraku on January 16, 2019, 05:50:24 PM

to be honest, at the moment I am quite hesitant about bull in 2019, I say this because I see the market power is getting weaker. in my opinion our only hope for seeing a bull is an approved ETF.

for 10 years bitcoin rose millions of percentage without ETF or any other type of government issued crap like it and for many years more we will continue seeing bitcoin rise without them. right now things are exactly like 2014 when price hit $200 and stayed there with people getting disappointed and hopeless about the rises. the next leg up will be swift and big because of that.

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Quote from: tulpe12 on January 15, 2019, 06:00:49 PM

Hello

do u think 2019 will be a bullrun start?

i personally think it has potencial due to BAKKT,Nasdaq and Vaneck Solidx Futures.

Also the Bitcoinhalving is coming 2020, to avoid maybe high bitcoin prices ,the buy orders might start in the second half of 2019.

at the other handside, we are still in a hard redline bearphase, and its hard to say if those aspects will be a positive run as the volume right now is mostly dead. some pump and dumps of whales to play around

i want to her your opinion.

BTC I TRUST, HODL I MUST ( Master Yoda )

2019, June is really a Time to wait on as many people are saying from half of 2019 we should expect a trigger buying order. Investors especially the institutionalized one are going to come into cryptocurrencies market this year and because of that some of them have started buying bitcoin privately and if we start to see them buying bitcoin in public then we should expect bitcoin to rise in pricing.

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Quote from: Vaculin on January 16, 2019, 10:30:12 PM

Quote from: Stedsm on January 16, 2019, 06:06:45 PM

Volume is dead? Who said that?
Compare how much Fiat was used to pump up BTC to 20k, it's not that easy now. Games have changed after futures and shorts came into effect.

This is the big hindrance for our growth now, we will not be able to see a consistent pump again without a good reason because this people can also short the market for them to make money, We are now in the real world like stocks trading and bitcoin company are betting against each other based on their so we need to adopt with their game.

We need pump? Think back before saying this, you want that "bubble" thing to be back in the game, again? I don't see it as a healthy way to make Bitcoins go mainstream, the growth during the beginning of last year was extreme but it only took less than 1/5th of current total volume that's being traded, in order to pump it up hard to 20k. But, many people lose confidence after watching a free fall and they'll regret hard once again when this thing goes back to those levels and even higher - considering the fact that they didn't hold. And about shorting and making money, I've given a brief explanation of the said facts here:
Wasn't this crypto-crash (course) needed?

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I think it doesn't matter if ETF is rejected or approve and I don't think that the price will increase suddenly. What we need to see the bull market is attracting more and more people to come and buy bitcoin and makes them realize that bitcoin is the best digital investment. The mass adoption itself will make bitcoin spreads into many people in out there, and I am sure many of them will invest their money in bitcoin, and in the end, this will make the bull will come again.

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