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Topic: [2020-08-13] What Bitcoin Can Learn From Gold About Staying ‘Clean’ - page 2. (Read 259 times)

legendary
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If it can’t be traded in London, it isn’t as liquid. And so it’s not as valuable.

Is that actually true, and if it is, does it really matter? If I want to buy or sell gold, the price for me will be the same whether it is LBMA gold or not. Likewise, I don't use Coinbase, so it doesn't matter if my coins are "dirty" or not.

Also, bitcoins are automatically "cleaned" by usage.
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To me it's a bit like looking for a problem where there is no problem and looking for solutions even when we don't need them.
But as you point out exchanges already are making it a problem.

this is why self-regulatory organizations are so useful for government regulators. members self-police, for fear of losing their whitelisted status. it's exactly the same with the LBMA and gold. the real pressure to mandate KYC for gold refiners to prevent money laundering, or remove conflict gold from circulation, comes from governments, but the actual policy comes down from the LBMA and is self-enforced by its members.

the cartel that will form bitcoin's version of the LBMA is obviously being established. BAKKT will be on the list, no doubt. fidelity and any of the legacy financial institutions who get into custody too. bitgo, coinbase, gemini, and similar tier exchanges/custodians would probably make the cut too. i assume platforms like bitmex, binance, and bitfinex will become de facto second tier exchanges. at some point in the future, their coins may be unwelcome on whitelisted exchanges, and depositing them will get your account closed.
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To me it's a bit like looking for a problem where there is no problem and looking for solutions even when we don't need them.

But as you point out exchanges already are making it a problem. And this class of investor will like the idea of all potential question marks being removed. I can imagine they may attempt to go down this road but the question is when and what will cause it to fall apart as it's likely to do.
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To me it's a bit like looking for a problem where there is no problem and looking for solutions even when we don't need them.

Since the number of bitcoins in circulation is limited, it will happen eventually all of them will be considered tainted. So what? We close the shop? Currently, with gold they act as if the resources are unlimited, and if it's not the problem would be similar, and it doesn't matter since there will always be a demand for Tier 2 (the gold not enough swag for LBMA). With Bitcoin, we are the tier 1 not tier 2 Wink

The problem with trading platforms refusing to accept tainted coins (this is a bit of a problem already) is they'll just shoot themselves in the foot.
So the exchanges won't be able to accept the majority of bitcoins, and when they do, once it's out there of the platform it will be a short time before the coin is considered tainted and no longer accepted.

(I suppose the author is in love with KYC  Tongue)
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https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-gold-staying-clean

This is an interesting one about gold's walled garden and the potential of something similar being applied to bitcoin.

In days gone by I would've immediately pooh poohed it, but with the ever increasing amount of  professional money and its use of custody, which means their bitcoin is already tucked away and thumbsed up, it seems like the type of thing they'd be very interested in investigating.

Is the wider market too powerful and dynamic and would this one be too stunted for it ever to work?

We've heard tales of virgin coin premiums from miners. An entirely 'safe' market may have quite the appeal. Obviously gold has its own problems which this market rose to deal with. Bitcoin doesn't have those problems but there are still those willing to pay for a seal of approval.
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