2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers - page 131.

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Quote from: joker_josue on March 28, 2022, 01:46:43 PM

Quote from: cygan on March 28, 2022, 12:03:51 PM

to the whole surprising elimination of the italians there is again a very funny cartoon, which shows the italian boot since the win of the world cup in 2006 ... this has completely disappeared from the world map since 2018...

Funny picture, no doubt!

But only referring to the world cups, because they won Euro2020 (2021). They played excellent games, and perhaps their only less successful game was the final against England, despite winning.

Even it's a very funny but very sad for world's most talented soccer community with millions of coach are available, and they completely fail in their last two attempts which are most ridiculous for them as many already suggesting they need an overhaul in team for better performance hopefully this will happen in quick time even now we have next world cup in the USA, Canada and Mexico with 48 teams are going to participate, and they have very good chance for qualifying, but currently things are not good and acceptable for Italian fans.

Now Mancini need to start from scratch and having his best available players for future, sadly their performance in world cups are not good as they are currently European Champions and having very good performance in this event.

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Poland - Sweden matchup can be a really tricky one to me. Because it is too hard to predict which team could come out as winner of this matchup. It is really great to see Zlatan Ibrahimovic being back to his national team first of all. Because he retired first but it was a great comeback when his team needed him the most. Sweden are stronger at scoring now. However, there is going to be a Lewandowski threat for them as well. It would be great to see these two great striker facing each other. Poland are favoured but I'm thinking of giving a chance to Sweden in this.

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Quote from: joker_josue on March 28, 2022, 01:46:43 PM

Quote from: cygan on March 28, 2022, 12:03:51 PM

to the whole surprising elimination of the italians there is again a very funny cartoon, which shows the italian boot since the win of the world cup in 2006 ... this has completely disappeared from the world map since 2018...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FO82v2HWQAYRMWZ?format=jpg&name=small

Funny picture, no doubt!

But only referring to the world cups, because they won Euro2020 (2021). They played excellent games, and perhaps their only less successful game was the final against England, despite winning.

At the opposite, I find this picture quite sad. Imagine your neighbours, your rivals, all people around the globe watching their countries or the teams they love playing there while Italians are pissed that their nation won't be represented there which isn't usual and for the second time in a row...

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Quote from: joker_josue on March 28, 2022, 11:16:13 AM

Quote from: cygan on March 28, 2022, 09:55:07 AM

another coach, however, wants to continue and that is Roberto Mancini Shocked

with the support of association boss Gabriele Gravina, Mancini wants to restructure and, above all, make the Azzurri's squad younger Wink

I think Italia's problem was not so much the coach, but the whole team: players, technical team, and administration. It was overconfidence that led to this setback in Italy.

They until about a year ago, have been doing a good job. So maybe they want to go ahead and risk it again.

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Mancini has omitted nine names from the squad called up against North Macedonia, namely Ciro Immobile, Lorenzo Insigne, Jorginho, Marco Verratti, Domenico Berardi, Gianluca Mancini, Luiz Felipe, Alessandro Florenzi and Matteo Politano.

I don't really follow in-depth about what happened in the Italian team but Mancini seems to have made the nine names he crossed out as the cause of Italy's defeat against Macedonia. A major overhaul must occur in the Italian team, if they want to win the world cup again.

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Quote from: cygan on March 28, 2022, 12:03:51 PM

to the whole surprising elimination of the italians there is again a very funny cartoon, which shows the italian boot since the win of the world cup in 2006 ... this has completely disappeared from the world map since 2018...

Funny picture, no doubt!

But only referring to the world cups, because they won Euro2020 (2021). They played excellent games, and perhaps their only less successful game was the final against England, despite winning.

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Quote from: Altryist on March 28, 2022, 12:56:46 PM

Quote from: KennyR on March 28, 2022, 12:04:29 PM

I don't say it as the mistake of the coach, the players or the overconfidence of the team. It is the bad luck of the team or the fate. Going through the match stats it is possible to know what has happened in the match. Italy have made 32 shots whereas Macedonia have made just 4 shots. Italy have made 16 corner shots whereas Macedonia have made none. Italy made 5 shots on the target and Macedonia made just two. Here in all aspects Italy have played better than North Macedonia, but they weren't able to win which is fate/bad luck.

You know, we could talk about bad luck if Italy could not defeat the Czech Republic, or Austria in this way. But with Macedonia, there should have been a confident victory. In no way do I want to offend the national team of North Macedonia, but Italy should not have let themselves be beaten. It could have been a draw and a win in extra time, or even a penalty shoot-out, but losing in regular time is unacceptable. Also, out of 32 shots on goal, and only 5 were in the stovr, this is a very bad statistic, maybe there was still an underestimation of the opponent by Italy?

Yes, there was no underestimation of the Macedonia. Macedonia did not just end up in this selection, but because Macedonia beat other teams. What happened to Italy initially should not have happened if Jorginho had scored a penalty. The Italian national team passed the entire qualifying cycle perfectly, but the failures in the qualifying cycle and then the failures with Macedonia showed how deceptive luck can be.
Well, one good striker was probably not enough, but there is no logic in the defeat of Italy, pure failure.

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So I think Canada can now weave a dream to improve that nick at the 2022 World Cup.

congrats to Canada, and their qualification to WorldCup
they have solid team, and it all depends on the group now, if they get two strong European teams, or best from South America, they are probably doomed to go back after group stage, but in the case they get two solid teams, but not top ones, they have good chances to pass-through

and after group stage, it is all one-match, but it would be too much for them to pass even one round

Since I was born I've never seen Canada at the World Cup. The entire nation should be truly glad as of now and celebrates.
Canada have qualified already. The wait of 36 years is over for Canada. I'm aware of their sentiments after confirming their position on 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar, also realization that how long they survive i mean grab any single win in the group stage.

You are very right am beginning to reason it too, this is the first time I'm coming across to see Canada to participate in the world cup. It will be nice to watch how they perform in the world cup to know their level of football very well. It has not been easy for Canada to stay this long with participating in world cup for a very long time.

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Quote from: joker_josue on March 28, 2022, 11:16:13 AM

Quote from: cygan on March 28, 2022, 09:55:07 AM

another coach, however, wants to continue and that is Roberto Mancini Shocked

with the support of association boss Gabriele Gravina, Mancini wants to restructure and, above all, make the Azzurri's squad younger Wink

I think Italia's problem was not so much the coach, but the whole team: players, technical team, and administration. It was overconfidence that led to this setback in Italy.

They until about a year ago, have been doing a good job. So maybe they want to go ahead and risk it again.

Agree with what you say it is possible in this case not the problem of the coach.
Their confidence was too high now and indeed this was a blow to it.
On the other hand, actually, in terms of players and the game, I don't think it's too wrong, but they have high self-confidence and their game on the field still looks chaotic in my opinion, even though their players can be said to be quite famous.

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Quote from: KennyR on March 28, 2022, 12:04:29 PM

I don't say it as the mistake of the coach, the players or the overconfidence of the team. It is the bad luck of the team or the fate. Going through the match stats it is possible to know what has happened in the match. Italy have made 32 shots whereas Macedonia have made just 4 shots. Italy have made 16 corner shots whereas Macedonia have made none. Italy made 5 shots on the target and Macedonia made just two. Here in all aspects Italy have played better than North Macedonia, but they weren't able to win which is fate/bad luck.

You know, we could talk about bad luck if Italy could not defeat the Czech Republic, or Austria in this way. But with Macedonia, there should have been a confident victory. In no way do I want to offend the national team of North Macedonia, but Italy should not have let themselves be beaten. It could have been a draw and a win in extra time, or even a penalty shoot-out, but losing in regular time is unacceptable. Also, out of 32 shots on goal, and only 5 were in the stovr, this is a very bad statistic, maybe there was still an underestimation of the opponent by Italy?

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Quote from: joker_josue on March 28, 2022, 11:16:13 AM

Quote from: cygan on March 28, 2022, 09:55:07 AM

another coach, however, wants to continue and that is Roberto Mancini Shocked

with the support of association boss Gabriele Gravina, Mancini wants to restructure and, above all, make the Azzurri's squad younger Wink

I think Italia's problem was not so much the coach, but the whole team: players, technical team, and administration. It was overconfidence that led to this setback in Italy.

They until about a year ago, have been doing a good job. So maybe they want to go ahead and risk it again.

I don't say it as the mistake of the coach, the players or the overconfidence of the team. It is the bad luck of the team or the fate. Going through the match stats it is possible to know what has happened in the match. Italy have made 32 shots whereas Macedonia have made just 4 shots. Italy have made 16 corner shots whereas Macedonia have made none. Italy made 5 shots on the target and Macedonia made just two. Here in all aspects Italy have played better than North Macedonia, but they weren't able to win which is fate/bad luck.

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Quote from: joker_josue on March 28, 2022, 11:16:13 AM

Quote from: cygan on March 28, 2022, 09:55:07 AM

another coach, however, wants to continue and that is Roberto Mancini Shocked

with the support of association boss Gabriele Gravina, Mancini wants to restructure and, above all, make the Azzurri's squad younger Wink

I think Italia's problem was not so much the coach, but the whole team: players, technical team, and administration. It was overconfidence that led to this setback in Italy.

They until about a year ago, have been doing a good job. So maybe they want to go ahead and risk it again.

to the whole surprising elimination of the italians there is again a very funny cartoon, which shows the italian boot since the win of the world cup in 2006 ... this has completely disappeared from the world map since 2018...

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Quote from: Distraction on March 27, 2022, 06:43:52 PM

I also don't see anything worth to bet on for the Portugal - North Macedonia match in two days. Portugal's winning odd right now is only 1.2 and this is not worth taking a big risk I believe. Actually I also think that Portugal wouldn't do the same mistake Italy did here. But I still don't want to feel stressed by betting on them after witnessing that result. Grin

But maybe one can give a chance to North Macedonia's double chance here. If one bets on it with a small amount, it would be fun to follow the match like that.

The money line on Portugal vs Macedonia is not worth betting on, however I think the Over 2.5 might be worth it, It's valued @ 1.7+, that's even more valuable than -1.5 Handicap for Portugal.

Poland vs Sweden is going to be tougher one to predict, and it's a 50/50 game imo, regardless of what the odds suggest, and very likely going to be a really low scoring one.

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Quote from: cygan on March 28, 2022, 09:55:07 AM

another coach, however, wants to continue and that is Roberto Mancini Shocked

with the support of association boss Gabriele Gravina, Mancini wants to restructure and, above all, make the Azzurri's squad younger Wink

I think Italia's problem was not so much the coach, but the whole team: players, technical team, and administration. It was overconfidence that led to this setback in Italy.

They until about a year ago, have been doing a good job. So maybe they want to go ahead and risk it again.

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after being eliminated in the qualifying rounds, austria's national coach Franco Foda announced his resignation on this monday. on tuesday, he will sit on the bench for the last time in the test match in vienna against Scotland.
another coach, however, wants to continue and that is Roberto Mancini Shocked

with the support of association boss Gabriele Gravina, Mancini wants to restructure and, above all, make the Azzurri's squad younger Wink

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Quote from: KTChampions on March 28, 2022, 08:47:04 AM

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But if North Macedonia can win this, at least it will be a big history for him. How not, North Macedonia can beat big teams like Italy and Portugal and it would be a big surprise if it actually happened. If you look at the quality on paper, it is at least the same as what Italy had before, but in the end who can think North Macedonia can beat Italy at the end of the match, but for Portugal of course they will learn more from what happened in Italy and Portugal will certainly anticipate this.

In some rare matches, the underdogs defeat the "big" teams, but it's hard to believe that this would happen twice in a row, and even at the playoff stage. Seeing the result of Italy, the Portuguese team will be initially set up for a more effective game, so the defensive game of Macedonia and even their luck (if any) will not surprise or confuse anyone.

There is also a saying that opportunity only comes once, maybe that will also apply to Macedonia, even though they managed to beat Italy, but I'm not sure they will do the same for Portugal, because Portugal must have learned from Italy's defeat, that's for sure. Portugal played very carefully, and did not let Macedonia break into Portugal's goal, a world cup without the most expensive star would be less exciting.

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Quote from: hahay on March 27, 2022, 10:41:54 PM

But if North Macedonia can win this, at least it will be a big history for him. How not, North Macedonia can beat big teams like Italy and Portugal and it would be a big surprise if it actually happened. If you look at the quality on paper, it is at least the same as what Italy had before, but in the end who can think North Macedonia can beat Italy at the end of the match, but for Portugal of course they will learn more from what happened in Italy and Portugal will certainly anticipate this.

In some rare matches, the underdogs defeat the "big" teams, but it's hard to believe that this would happen twice in a row, and even at the playoff stage. Seeing the result of Italy, the Portuguese team will be initially set up for a more effective game, so the defensive game of Macedonia and even their luck (if any) will not surprise or confuse anyone.

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Quote from: xzone on March 28, 2022, 08:10:23 AM

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I also don't see anything worth to bet on for the Portugal - North Macedonia match in two days. Portugal's winning odd right now is only 1.2 and this is not worth taking a big risk I believe. Actually I also think that Portugal wouldn't do the same mistake Italy did here. But I still don't want to feel stressed by betting on them after witnessing that result. Grin

But maybe one can give a chance to North Macedonia's double chance here. If one bets on it with a small amount, it would be fun to follow the match like that.

The odds are really low, it's not worth the risk for this game. We know that Portugal is a very strong team, but Macedonia is also a team that can achieve surprising results. They managed to win against Italy. Therefore, it may be a better option to choose other matches instead of this match. Actually, I think both teams can score in this match

Whoever backs italy and bets on it then it's an upset at the end of the game which really surprises Italy to be knocked out by Macedonia then the risk is really big.
That's right I think we have to look at the opportunities we get, don't just look at a team because at any time they can lose.
I know Portugal are the favorite team, but indeed I will go through and other options I think are better than this opportunity, I think so.

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Quote from: Distraction on March 27, 2022, 06:43:52 PM

I also don't see anything worth to bet on for the Portugal - North Macedonia match in two days. Portugal's winning odd right now is only 1.2 and this is not worth taking a big risk I believe. Actually I also think that Portugal wouldn't do the same mistake Italy did here. But I still don't want to feel stressed by betting on them after witnessing that result. Grin

But maybe one can give a chance to North Macedonia's double chance here. If one bets on it with a small amount, it would be fun to follow the match like that.

The odds are really low, it's not worth the risk for this game. We know that Portugal is a very strong team, but Macedonia is also a team that can achieve surprising results. They managed to win against Italy. Therefore, it may be a better option to choose other matches instead of this match. Actually, I think both teams can score in this match

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Quote from: zaki12 on March 28, 2022, 05:58:20 AM

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So I think Canada can now weave a dream to improve that nick at the 2022 World Cup.

congrats to Canada, and their qualification to WorldCup
they have solid team, and it all depends on the group now, if they get two strong European teams, or best from South America, they are probably doomed to go back after group stage, but in the case they get two solid teams, but not top ones, they have good chances to pass-through

and after group stage, it is all one-match, but it would be too much for them to pass even one round

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Quote from: onecall123 on March 28, 2022, 12:50:05 AM

FT: Canada 4-0 Jamaica
Even though the score could have been worse, 4-0 is not bad! Canada is making the World Cup for the first time in 36 years. They are most certainly the best team in North America at the moment! As well as supporting Germany, I will be supporting Canada as well. Jamaica basically handed the game to Canada. Football is not Jamaica's calling, they should stick with selling weed.

Canada deserves to qualify for the World Cup because Canada currently has a golden generation squad that has played in several European competitions. There is Alphonso Davies who plays at Bayern Munich even though he is currently injured. In addition, Canada also has Jonathan Davies (Lille), Tajon Buchanan (Club Brugge), Cyle Larin (Besiktas), and Stephen Eustaqio (FC Porto).
So I think Canada can now weave a dream to improve that nick at the 2022 World Cup.

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