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Topic: 21Inc $110m+ BTC Price Index over next 2 weeks ~$400? - page 2. (Read 2835 times)

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Rumor: Putting Bitcoin ASICs in every device.  Bitcoin Mining in the Internet of Things.

lol, good one

That's what I thought first  Grin

But maybe a possibility in 10-15Yrs time?

The economics of scale won't change in 15 years nor like... ever.

I agree, but open to see the evolution of BTC mining. Right now it looks like there will be more "mega mines" and VC/Angel money put into these large facilities.


So back on point, do you think the price index is likely to reach $400 within next 30 days? It'll have to be an innovative application/marketing hype!!


I do not think the price will rise to $400 in the next 30 days. I think there may be a small increase in the price. The price broke $300 for a short time today, but $100 increase is a lot to be asking now.

but i hope it will be happen in the next 2 week Cheesy

Haha, that's the spirit! Stranger things have happened bro. Guess if you are % trading frequently, just be sure you can liquidate your funds quickly (BTC:FIAT:>BTC) as we are in a slow uptrend. Perhaps this 21Inc will come good and blow us all away  Cool
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Rumor: Putting Bitcoin ASICs in every device.  Bitcoin Mining in the Internet of Things.

lol, good one

That's what I thought first  Grin

But maybe a possibility in 10-15Yrs time?

The economics of scale won't change in 15 years nor like... ever.

I agree, but open to see the evolution of BTC mining. Right now it looks like there will be more "mega mines" and VC/Angel money put into these large facilities.


So back on point, do you think the price index is likely to reach $400 within next 30 days? It'll have to be an innovative application/marketing hype!!


I do not think the price will rise to $400 in the next 30 days. I think there may be a small increase in the price. The price broke $300 for a short time today, but $100 increase is a lot to be asking now.

Agreed, a $100 increase would correlate with significant increase in demand within this time frame. It's possible, but would real need to be a very impressive suite of applications from this 21Inc group.


Interestingly, the last 2 times we breached $300, the price index rapidly dropped - I'm hoping we will progress/sustain above the $320 range this time, guess we'll have to wait and see.

I retail BTC everyday, so will keep buying back at current market. Worst thing for brokers like me, is to sell a lot then have to buy back at higher rate  Tongue
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Rumor: Putting Bitcoin ASICs in every device.  Bitcoin Mining in the Internet of Things.

lol, good one

That's what I thought first  Grin

But maybe a possibility in 10-15Yrs time?

The economics of scale won't change in 15 years nor like... ever.

I agree, but open to see the evolution of BTC mining. Right now it looks like there will be more "mega mines" and VC/Angel money put into these large facilities.


So back on point, do you think the price index is likely to reach $400 within next 30 days? It'll have to be an innovative application/marketing hype!!


I do not think the price will rise to $400 in the next 30 days. I think there may be a small increase in the price. The price broke $300 for a short time today, but $100 increase is a lot to be asking now.

but i hope it will be happen in the next 2 week Cheesy
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We've seen intermittent viability of small scale mining at the start of every change of the underlying technology. At the beginning of GPU, FPGA, and ASIC mining it was feasible to run a single machine at home for a while. And I'm very skeptical about the prospect of beating existing ASICs with a newer, better designed one by that order of magnitude. Even when 100mil are behind it.
So they are after buzz, I get it. Perhaps it'll drive the price up, perhaps it gets ignored... The thing is they are being intentionally obscure and I don't trust that.


I'm with you on this one - pending any further project news from this 21Inc group, have not seen anything interesting thus far..
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Rumor: Putting Bitcoin ASICs in every device.  Bitcoin Mining in the Internet of Things.

lol, good one

That's what I thought first  Grin

But maybe a possibility in 10-15Yrs time?

The economics of scale won't change in 15 years nor like... ever.

I agree, but open to see the evolution of BTC mining. Right now it looks like there will be more "mega mines" and VC/Angel money put into these large facilities.


So back on point, do you think the price index is likely to reach $400 within next 30 days? It'll have to be an innovative application/marketing hype!!


I do not think the price will rise to $400 in the next 30 days. I think there may be a small increase in the price. The price broke $300 for a short time today, but $100 increase is a lot to be asking now.
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We've seen intermittent viability of small scale mining at the start of every change of the underlying technology. At the beginning of GPU, FPGA, and ASIC mining it was feasible to run a single machine at home for a while. And I'm very skeptical about the prospect of beating existing ASICs with a newer, better designed one by that order of magnitude. Even when 100mil are behind it.
So they are after buzz, I get it. Perhaps it'll drive the price up, perhaps it gets ignored... The thing is they are being intentionally obscure and I don't trust that.
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Activity: 238
Merit: 100
Rumor: Putting Bitcoin ASICs in every device.  Bitcoin Mining in the Internet of Things.

lol, good one

That's what I thought first  Grin

But maybe a possibility in 10-15Yrs time?

The economics of scale won't change in 15 years nor like... ever.

I agree, but open to see the evolution of BTC mining. Right now it looks like there will be more "mega mines" and VC/Angel money put into these large facilities.


So back on point, do you think the price index is likely to reach $400 within next 30 days? It'll have to be an innovative application/marketing hype!!

legendary
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Merit: 1057
Marketing manager - GO MP
Rumor: Putting Bitcoin ASICs in every device.  Bitcoin Mining in the Internet of Things.

lol, good one

That's what I thought first  Grin

But maybe a possibility in 10-15Yrs time?

The economics of scale won't change in 15 years nor like... ever.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
Rumor: Putting Bitcoin ASICs in every device.  Bitcoin Mining in the Internet of Things.

lol, good one

That's what I thought first  Grin

But maybe a possibility in 10-15Yrs time?


I think these "announcements" from 21inc will be more related to useful applications that utilize BTC in the background and partnered affiliations to increase consumer adoption.
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Rumor: Putting Bitcoin ASICs in every device.  Bitcoin Mining in the Internet of Things.

lol, good one
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Rumor: Putting Bitcoin ASICs in every device.  Bitcoin Mining in the Internet of Things.

Don't you need a fleet of warehouses and your own power plant to stand a chance of competing? Sounds like a fun gesture but not much else unless it's more of a node type of thing.

Why have a warehouse when other people can mine for you with their own electricity?  If a custom LCD monitor has one ASIC chip, and there are 1,000,000 that own that monitor it would be hashing on 'free electricity'.  You could split the profits or give the user an ad free experience.

It's an interesting assumption! Pooled mining to another level : )

10,000 asic devices vs 1?

Recently utorrent tried the same premise (albeit without ASIC)
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Rumor: Putting Bitcoin ASICs in every device.  Bitcoin Mining in the Internet of Things.

Don't you need a fleet of warehouses and your own power plant to stand a chance of competing? Sounds like a fun gesture but not much else unless it's more of a node type of thing.

Why have a warehouse when other people can mine for you with their own electricity?  If a custom LCD monitor has one ASIC chip, and there are 1,000,000 that own that monitor it would be hashing on 'free electricity'.  You could split the profits or give the user an ad free experience.
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Rumor: Putting Bitcoin ASICs in every device.  Bitcoin Mining in the Internet of Things.

Don't you need a fleet of warehouses and your own power plant to stand a chance of competing? Sounds like a fun gesture but not much else unless it's more of a node type of thing.
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Rumor: Putting Bitcoin ASICs in every device.  Bitcoin Mining in the Internet of Things.
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Have anyone looked into this group? According to some vague articles they have raise significant VC funding and "plan" to  make a series of announcements/applications to promote BTC mass adoption??

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

http://www.ibtimes.com/21-inc-secret-bitcoin-startup-raises-116m-latest-funding-round-1842374




Edit: According to metrics on Crunchbase, they are targeted towards chip design specifically for BTC hashing (Note their association with Qualcomm)

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/21e6



So for us, everyday BTC traders should we prepare for this? It wouldn't surprise me if we naturally moved to $300 range - But if this drives a more significant uptick should we be prepared for an Index closer to $380-$420 over next few weeks/month - just to be cautious?


EDIT: Here's the website for the stealthy group: https://21.co/
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