Topic: 220G bitcoin miners official group buy (Read 5715 times)

There is no way anyone can expect to even break even on this device let alone make any profit.

Just open your window and throw the money out...at least you won't have wasted your time.

  Here i want to say two point.
  1: the difference between miners in stock and miners for pre-order, everybody knows the difference, but they may don't acctually caculate it, you know, if is is late for 6 days for deliver, that means 0.36 BTC,
  2: The other is warranty, i have office and open to everybody, and OEM factory opened to wholeseller and big customer, i can give my promise to give 3 month warranty, it may cost at least 0.1-0.2 BTC averaging it out。
    and the most important reason why i change back to 3 BTC, that's because i don't want group buy here now, as i think as a new fish in this forum and don' have engouth reputaion here, i can't get enought number to get to 100PCS group buy,  if you watch my thread at first time, you may know my first price is 2.5B for 100 pcs, and deliver in 4-6 days, warranty for 3 month.

   So now, i still sell miners only in stock, each order should less than 5pcs, and it takes for sometime to increase my reputation here. until now, is only two of them for i just register here may be 10 days. but i think, it is quickly if i give them good service and don't make miner seller as a secret thing,  let people know about us.

    First of all, thank you very much for trying help me, and that really means a lot to me and helpful too, and thanks to Member named "southerngentuk", as what i do now mostly followed his opinion.
   and to your suggestion, it may get really good effect too, and i still have my concern, and your friend didn't answer my PM yet.

    Acctually, untill now, two of members of bitcointalk.org has find a friend in Guangzhou, and come to my office and confirmed me not a scam, one is from Korea, one is from UK, The one in Korea i have deliver 3 Miners two days ago, and the on in UK, has paid to order 2 miners, and his friend has confirmed i have the stock, and will deliver in 1-2 days as now is weekend.
   
    And i can't give you their username now, but i will ask them to help me confirm after they got the miner may be 3-5 days later, but it depend on them.

    Again, thank you very much.....

Well the issue is pricing

Perhaps you want to sell on ebay as this price does not compute with current market difficulty and TH expections Feb March

You are late to market .....sorry

Btmine just about made it and failed on follow through.

Your close but not close enough for the numbers to work unless BTC jumps over $1000

Anything is possible.

We wish you luck just the same

Heck even my unicron wish you well

Best-mainer.com,

Southerngentuk gave you some REALLY good advice when he said ->

To help you out I provided you member contact information to a member that is well known and respected.  He’s known to do solid and honest business.  I understand you provided him good pricing BUT the issue here isn't your pricing.  The thing people want to see is that someone they trust has a good business experience with you.  I’d bet that’s why southerngentuk provided option 3.  You see, if you do option 3 above you’ll get option 2 covered as part of that trusted member’s review.  When that happens you’ll have so many people knocking on your door to buy your units that you won’t be able to keep your Avalon clones in stock.  As well, the trusted member’s contact information I sent you is from a person that will purchase the unit once it gets up and running AND has plans to buy more of your units *IF* the unit you send for review performs as you describe.  The thing is you need to build trust, not expect it as gratis.  If I were you I’d reconsider you position on this item.  You mention you don’t know Uncle Scrooge …. That’s fine.  Send a unit to Canaryinthemine and have him do your review.  The point is the fastest way to get to large volume sales, at least in this forum, is to have someone who is trusted by many review your gear and vouch for the experience they had with you.  Otherwise, the only other option you have for those that are smart about their coin balance is to do the Escrow thing …… which your OP says you won’t do.  Keep in mind, 3BTC for a 200ghash unit is quite a price premium over other sellers who have already done these things I've described.  For that price premium you MUST unload some of the risk on the buyer side.

H@shKraker

As i don't know Uncel scrooge, i may can't accept the deal for deliver and pay the shipping fee by myself first, but i have give him a really good price just to confirm we are not scam. Hope your friend will accept my proposal.

Assuming they shipped at current difficulty, you might make a couple of bucks by June.

If they get to your doorstep at 2.3+ billion difficulty, 3 btc is way too high for the power usage (1000 W  ), and you won't make jack, unless BTC goes up to the moon.

Price is too high for me. Best of luck to your efforts.

If people are paying via btc, I am more than happy to be the escrow...

Im personally very interested in this miner, after seeing btmine's sales went downhill

Sorry guys, but your offer come with great delay. Right now the fight is for ASIC miners capable of TH/s   

The market is flooded with mining gear (mostly from China) who use OLD gen 1 chips with top performance of ~200 GH/s

The price of more than $2000  per such an "antique" unit is too exaggerated !

Actually you can buy mining contracts worth 200 GH/s with less than half of your price.

Best-miner.com,

I just spoke with Uncle Scrooge on the phone and he's willing to eval one of your machines and vouch for you if everything is as you promise.  Please PM him.  As soon as your unit arrives he'll power it up, configure it for a worker at btcguild, get screen shots of the worker running AND pictures of your machine running, post his review and then pay you for the machine and shipping via BTC.  If all of that goes well he said he'll definitely order additional units from you (and so will I).  Have a nice day.

H@shKraker

Best-miner.com,

A long time and trusted member who is well know is Uncle Scrooge.  He lives in the USA.  Please send him a PM to get his mailing address so you can send him an evaluation unit. If you are legit, the eval unit arrives and it performs to your specs Uncle Scrooge will order that one plus 6 more from you *AND* Uncle Scrooge will vouch for you.  If Uncle Scrooge vouches for you I too will do so as uncle Scrooge and I do TONS of business together (i.e 6 TerraHash IV miners between us on a team deal with CoinTerra).  Once Uncle Scrooge Vouches for you I'd like 2 for myself.  Hope this helps.

H@shKraker

place a piece of paper with your forum name on the desk with the units so its visible in the photos.

watching,
I tried finding better photos for your units, could you post a photo of the unit against a white backgroubnd in several angles,
thanks

Sorry, we don't got an factory, and we are sales agency, and get the miners from it, it is not allowed to take video when they manufacture it, i'll post some vdieo to youtube late.

ref : 3

Look at the activity no. - higher the better, but also look through there past posts, some people have high activity because they spam alot of threads. Read some of there posts and peoples reaction to there posts and you will soon get a feel of how trusted they are.

basically once you have show you can deliver in good time then you will have no need for escrow anymore.

Just get your first unit out there and they will post un-boxing pictures ext.. and confidence will build quickly from that..

Thank you for your suggestion and i'll try all threee advice you said,  sorry for think you are miner sellers too.

1:I would give serveral unit as Escrow not only 1, but it takes maybe more than 1 weeks.
2:As we are new to this forum, anyone in this forum in Guangzhou or have friend in Guangzhou could contact us, we will pay the bill for 100 RMB for his visiting fare.
3:Can you give me some trusted member name? so i can contact him, even for deliver first and paid after he got it.

Can you post an video on youtube from manufacture process, or video shows the miner running?

Reason why we ask these questions is that its a normal procedure.
 if you got an factory it is some simpel steps to take to get more trust.

I live in bangkok, if you want I can visit your company and verify you. Roundtrip flight is about 300$.

+1

good luck!
-akw-