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November 24, 2017, 04:15:34 PM
#55
In my opinion, it's too late to invest so much in a huge rig of 1080ti. Not so much time left until the new generation of nvidia gpus will appear and they might make current cards obsolete, how it happened to 9xx cards.

The new generation will have that HBC memory RX Vegas use, so they'll be good for other algos but not the current ones dominated by 10xx series
legendary
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November 24, 2017, 02:01:51 PM
#54
I disagree.  Some miner machines like myself do run full node eth mist wallets and other staking coin wallets that requires a lot of hardrive space. 500 gb ssd is cheap and affordable now.

I also like to surf the web and do trading so having a decent enough cpu is nice while I'm still mining.
Why would you serf and trade from a dedicated mining rig? Smiley Especially from one that costs $30k? Running wallets on mining rigs is also not a good idea in general since you can't always trust new miner software and never know for sure that it's not infected with the code to steal your wallets.

Running a regular PC that also does mining — sure, in such a scenario I totally agree with you, put as good CPU/RAM/SSD in it as you want. But doing all those things you listed from a dedicated mining rig? I guess, if you have $30k for a rig like this, you can surely afford a proper desktop/laptop for general computing.
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November 24, 2017, 01:59:29 PM
#53
In my opinion, it's too late to invest so much in a huge rig of 1080ti. Not so much time left until the new generation of nvidia gpus will appear and they might make current cards obsolete, how it happened to 9xx cards.
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November 24, 2017, 01:44:00 PM
#52
Any reason why you want to go for very expensive motherboards/cpu/ram and ssd?
It makes no sense from a mining point of view.

I can't agree with you more. mobos/cpu/ram/ssd should be the cheapest ones.

I disagree.  Some miner machines like myself do run full node eth mist wallets and other staking coin wallets that requires a lot of hardrive space. 500 gb ssd is cheap and affordable now.

I also like to surf the web and do trading so having a decent enough cpu is nice while I'm still mining.


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November 24, 2017, 11:48:15 AM
#51
FYI: Please take a moment to read the thread before voting. Pay close attention to @senseless as he/she has good some points if you are a advanced IT and can build your own.

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Would you invest in rig like this?
How many would you want?

You would like to attract investment to your project but you don't show any photos of the hardware. There is no weblinks or something else information. What watercooling system do you use?
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November 24, 2017, 11:28:01 AM
#50
Any reason why you want to go for very expensive motherboards/cpu/ram and ssd?
It makes no sense from a mining point of view.

I can't agree with you more. mobos/cpu/ram/ssd should be the cheapest ones.
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November 24, 2017, 11:26:30 AM
#49
My equipment RX580 6x 4GB cost $ 2,500. Therefore, I can independently gather the same equipment for $ 10,000. You offer it for $ 30,000. Are you crazy? What you need to be an idiot to do it. No your idea is more like a Scam. Just stupid to make such suggestions on the forum where a lot of specialists in this business.
newbie
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November 24, 2017, 10:57:35 AM
#48
Don't get discouraged b/c most people on this mining forum already knows how to build a gpu rig and we're very picky and criticize everything to our custom preference

I think you do have a market for people not technically PC savy and dont' want to deal with pc issues of building a rig.  I'm sure pro traders would also be interested for a turn key  easy solution so that way they can keep on day trading and get a new stream of cash flow as well as understand the concepts of mining hands on.

If you can build a very reliable rig, hand pick out the best reliable cards and have it run for a week without crashing, I think you'll get some sales.

I do think you should allow for some customization of hardware components or offer 3 different type of builds or something.  It's nice to be  able to customize it, For example I want the high efficiency 240 volt platinum server grade power supplies,  Or offer platinum/titantinum power supplys and the customer can use eaither 120 or 240 volt.  Or separate the system out with two/four motherboards so it's more modular in case one fails the whole system won't go offline earning nothing.

Can you show us some pics,  I'm interested now.

If they really make a 24 GPU rig happen, it's a way cool! not much of us could build this also guarantee a stable operation. As I remember in Bits Be Trippin' youtube channel, BBT already tried and failed on it.

Yeah I watched that. He was mixing 8 NVidia Mining Cards with AMD (which did work fine). He never had a chance then, he does now.
Driver 188.00 Added 8+ NVidia GPU Support ... BUT -> There is always a BUT!

At the same time kinda broke the 1060 Mining cards with came with/tested with 185.xx driver (8 GPU max) but retail cards worked fine past 8

So I my initial test system, ASUS B250 Mining board I hooked up 8 MSI's, 9th card sketchy. All cards 16 (nvidias posted to BIOS no issues, really fast)

BUT, windows, even though they are the best for driver support (still cant get 188.0 for linux, i think) enumerates ALL cards every time.

So with spending time on with advanced support for a few week (ASUS, MSI, nVidia) I figured out that even though once the system was configured and actually mining (of course you really do not need much CPU/RAM/HDD) but you do need it for windows/nvidia driver configuration.

Therefor I decided to change CPU out for i7 7700k (from G4400) $330ish, bumped the RAM to 32GB (from Cool and bump the SSD (samsung evo 120) to 512 (with swap file and windows I had very little space left) -> this added another $480 cost to the the system - a system with ~$19,200 worth of GPUS (2.5% of overall computing power cost increase) But it worked. You still have to start with 4 GPU,s wait, reboot, 4 more GPUs, wait, reboot, Then 1 GPU, wait, Reboot all the way through. It really does take all day to install 24 GPUs.

Then you have to turn off sync like GPUs in Afterburner and tweak each one individually. Good news is that you can set the CPU (all but 2 cores) to go ahead and mine as well (help make a little bit more and have the CPU/RAM/SSD pay for them selves ~400 days) while the ROI on the system itself is ~280 days. Not bad for a a GPU rig.

Plus look at it this way...If you went traditional way and used 3 each MB/CPU/RAM/SSD - it costs more than the $480 to just upgrade the base performance.


Anyway this system is dead for consumer sale. The response was, wow, negative to say the very least. I invested a lot of money and time over 3 months getting it to work. That was supposed to be offset by my batch of Baikal X10's that were supposed to be here in OCT 25th ish, delayed until NOV 15, and not i'm watching youtube videos of ASIC Miner Market mining with my (our) miners and still have no shipping confirmation. I have had to pull it apart to sell to pay Business AmEx bill. Doing that today. I dont know if Im going to setup it up as two 8 GPU systems or one 16 GPU system yet. But I will keep one 8 GPU system running for at least $37 ish/day until I recover and can build the new one.

The new one, despite the responses here will most likely just be 18 GPU powered by Intel i5 6600k, 16 GB RipJaw  RAM, 512 GB Samsung SSD  powered by four EVGA 1600W Titanium Power Supplies and completely Liquid Cooled. When completed, tested (30 days) I will get in touch with Bits Be Trippin' and see if I can sent it to him for a Un-Boxing and review. That will decide where it will go to market. It's not worth building and selling if company has to buy from Amazon, CDW, NewEgg at retail. Need to order the GPU's in bulk and that's at least $200k tied up for building in groups of 10ish just in parts alone.


Anyway, hope this info helps some of you get past the 8 GPU nvidia GPU limit as well as stabilize you rigs a bit more.

[EDIT]
Oh forgot, use the 188.00 or 188.13 driver, DO NOT use 188.10 (buggy) I am using 188.13 and its working fine.
legendary
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November 24, 2017, 08:34:19 AM
#47
I think 80C is a lot and might decrease the lifespan of a GPU...

But the only issue is if you're saying the temp is 75-80 degrees The life of those cards is going to take a big hit.. Better off having something which runs alot cooler which will prolong the lifespan of the cards to help ROI

Guys if you read the thread you'll see that the GPUs don't run at 75-80C. They just "tested" the stability with those temps, they're not planning to mine 24/7 with them running so hot. It's actually not that easy to run the watercooled 1080 Tis with those temps, they're well under 70 most of the time (even between 50 an 60 when properly tuned). Running them at 80C is just a part of their stress testing routine.
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November 24, 2017, 04:35:31 AM
#46
For something like this... Okay you're building and testing it.. But if people have the amount of money you're charging then they could build nearly 2 of what you're offering.

Granted its been 'tested' But... there is so many guides out there on how to set up rigs that anyone could set one up if they had common sense.

But the only issue is if you're saying the temp is 75-80 degrees The life of those cards is going to take a big hit.. Better off having something which runs alot cooler which will prolong the lifespan of the cards to help ROI
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November 24, 2017, 04:24:07 AM
#45
super power RIG ...
legendary
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November 24, 2017, 04:21:04 AM
#44
Why paying 29.999 USD for a 24 GPU-rig when an expert can build it itself with 1x ASUS mining expert and 1x Asrock H81 PRO BTC or Biostar PRO BTC. The cost will be cheaper this way and will be a lot of fun as when you build something yourself from scratch gives you the feeling of some kind of happiness (personal experience). The cost will be cheaper and 24 GPU do not give you though 201 USD profit daily from the tests I have done with different mining boards, normally a rig with 6 GPU-s 1080 ti gives you 20 USD per day multiply per 4 which is 24 GPU-s is 80 USD not taking into account electricity. After we remove electricity of 24 1080 ti it remains about 65 USD approximately profit daily depending on the country and price of the electricity of that country.
hero member
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November 24, 2017, 03:58:00 AM
#43

I am sorry, you are correct. Ambient Room Temp is in Fahrenheit.
And ok, yes the MSI cards were indeed stable at 80C. But I have stated my GPU settings several times here, 75C is my set maximum and they have never hit that range (yet)


I think 80C is a lot and might decrease the lifespan of a GPU...
newbie
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November 24, 2017, 02:10:40 AM
#42
it's probably interesting choice for novices, but for guys who can build the rig by their own hands it's rather useless
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November 24, 2017, 02:08:33 AM
#41
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November 24, 2017, 12:13:35 AM
#40
Don't get discouraged b/c most people on this mining forum already knows how to build a gpu rig and we're very picky and criticize everything to our custom preference

I think you do have a market for people not technically PC savy and dont' want to deal with pc issues of building a rig.  I'm sure pro traders would also be interested for a turn key  easy solution so that way they can keep on day trading and get a new stream of cash flow as well as understand the concepts of mining hands on.

If you can build a very reliable rig, hand pick out the best reliable cards and have it run for a week without crashing, I think you'll get some sales.

I do think you should allow for some customization of hardware components or offer 3 different type of builds or something.  It's nice to be  able to customize it, For example I want the high efficiency 240 volt platinum server grade power supplies,  Or offer platinum/titantinum power supplys and the customer can use eaither 120 or 240 volt.  Or separate the system out with two/four motherboards so it's more modular in case one fails the whole system won't go offline earning nothing.

Can you show us some pics,  I'm interested now.

If they really make a 24 GPU rig happen, it's a way cool! not much of us could build this also guarantee a stable operation. As I remember in Bits Be Trippin' youtube channel, BBT already tried and failed on it.
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November 22, 2017, 01:44:43 PM
#39
Don't get discouraged b/c most people on this mining forum already knows how to build a gpu rig and we're very picky and criticize everything to our custom preference

I think you do have a market for people not technically PC savy and dont' want to deal with pc issues of building a rig.  I'm sure pro traders would also be interested for a turn key  easy solution so that way they can keep on day trading and get a new stream of cash flow as well as understand the concepts of mining hands on.

If you can build a very reliable rig, hand pick out the best reliable cards and have it run for a week without crashing, I think you'll get some sales.

I do think you should allow for some customization of hardware components or offer 3 different type of builds or something.  It's nice to be  able to customize it, For example I want the high efficiency 240 volt platinum server grade power supplies,  Or offer platinum/titantinum power supplys and the customer can use eaither 120 or 240 volt.  Or separate the system out with two/four motherboards so it's more modular in case one fails the whole system won't go offline earning nothing.

Can you show us some pics,  I'm interested now.
sr. member
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November 22, 2017, 12:23:28 PM
#38
well that is really strange approach for mining
is I were so rich that can afford the system that big I would do it
a. myself
b. I. Would. Never. Ever. Use. NiceHash!

overall : there are many ways to build the systems which would push same hashrates as your planned system, but cheaper. So why choose yours?
newbie
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November 22, 2017, 12:05:40 PM
#37
3.5 $ for a GPU that runs at 80°C?

I keep my card cooler than 60°C and I already get 4 USD a day. Could do even better with OC'ing. Better look for another card?


Where did you come up with 80C? All GPUs are running 50C to 57C @ Ambient Room temp 79C. The higher the Ambient Room temp the warmer your cards will get because your cooling with warmer air. 75C is the MAX temp - I do not want to go higher than that for increased lifespan.


Quote
- MSI. Tested. Good performance. Stable at 80C. Each unit AVG $3.75/day (8 GPUS) and $4.00/day (24 GPUS). Accepted.


Dude, you need to re-read what you write.

C = Celsius
F = Fahrenheit

Room temp 79C? I think you mean 79F. No one can live in 79C. It's a sauna in there if it's really 79C.

GPU 50C-57C? I guess you mean 50-57 Celsius, because 50F-57F = 10C-14C, and no card can run at 10C-14C.


Edited to add: Just saying, meant no offense.


I am sorry, you are correct. Ambient Room Temp is in Fahrenheit.
And ok, yes the MSI cards were indeed stable at 80C. But I have stated my GPU settings several times here, 75C is my set maximum and they have never hit that range (yet)
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November 22, 2017, 11:57:00 AM
#36
3.5 $ for a GPU that runs at 80°C?

I keep my card cooler than 60°C and I already get 4 USD a day. Could do even better with OC'ing. Better look for another card?


Where did you come up with 80C? All GPUs are running 50C to 57C @ Ambient Room temp 79C. The higher the Ambient Room temp the warmer your cards will get because your cooling with warmer air. 75C is the MAX temp - I do not want to go higher than that for increased lifespan.


Quote
- MSI. Tested. Good performance. Stable at 80C. Each unit AVG $3.75/day (8 GPUS) and $4.00/day (24 GPUS). Accepted.


Dude, you need to re-read what you write.

C = Celsius
F = Fahrenheit

Room temp 79C? I think you mean 79F. No one can live in 79C. It's a sauna in there if it's really 79C.

GPU 50C-57C? I guess you mean 50-57 Celsius, because 50F-57F = 10C-14C, and no card can run at 10C-14C.


Edited to add: Just saying, meant no offense.
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