This might create a cheap boost to your cooling by lowering the air temps and not causing humidity problems.
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This might create a cheap boost to your cooling by lowering the air temps and not causing humidity problems.
This might create a cheap boost to your cooling by lowering the air temps and not causing humidity problems.
Please remember that bitcoin mining runs many times hotter than most datacenters.
You will need a lot of electricity. (Like a small hydroelectric dam's worth). You have to innovate to get it cooled. I would say that it would be most efficient to locate a bitcoin data mining center on a mountain.
The electricity could be produced with wind turbines with some solar. Cooling would be easy since being up on a mountain significantly lowers the temperature of the air.
Best Idea, You will need a lot of electricity. (Like a small hydroelectric dam's worth). You have to innovate to get it cooled. I would say that it would be most efficient to locate a bitcoin data mining center on a mountain.
The electricity could be produced with wind turbines with some solar. Cooling would be easy since being up on a mountain significantly lowers the temperature of the air.
Choosing Cool Mountains and trying to get good electricty flow
I design and build or rather used to....
I dont want your bounty but will happily offer up my 2 pence worth.
Not a concept i would choose, cooling is more complex than that....
How many servers are we talking? what are the BTU Raiting etc.....
How will air "flow" work around the space, will each server get enough cooled air
Why not free cooling??? just high speed fans in a small space and extraction can be enough on small setups.
Its not as simple as your question makes it
I dont want your bounty but will happily offer up my 2 pence worth.
Not a concept i would choose, cooling is more complex than that....
How many servers are we talking? what are the BTU Raiting etc.....
How will air "flow" work around the space, will each server get enough cooled air
Why not free cooling??? just high speed fans in a small space and extraction can be enough on small setups.
Its not as simple as your question makes it
I am not sure of the BTU rating, but I will need to dissipate upwards of 40,000 watts.
Air flow would be a bit tricky. I was planning on an intake and exhaust fan to get rid of humidity.
The summer here are brutally hot....can get up to 110 F. high speed fans don't really cut it in those conditions, at least they haven't the last couple years.
Also an ex data center designer with .02 and will leave it up to another to write the best but here is a piece:
Condensing coolers will remove humidity from the air.
An evap cooler will add it, though typically used for more open air systems, you could do something novel with a combination, and being careful with the runoff and cleanliness.
Have contacts at Leibert and Klein, et al, Trane is also good, if you want the full industrial engineering work done for your environment.
A friend of mine works for a company that services the Amazon facility in Milpitas. If memory serves they use Trane equipment. You might start here for some research. http://www.trane.com/datacenter/
Most office building suites have adequate cooling for small to mid sized server rack configurations. Where are you planning in building this out? warehouse? or office suite? what part of the world?
Most office building suites have adequate cooling for small to mid sized server rack configurations. Where are you planning in building this out? warehouse? or office suite? what part of the world?
Please remember that bitcoin mining runs many times hotter than most datacenters.
You will need a lot of electricity. (Like a small hydroelectric dam's worth). You have to innovate to get it cooled. I would say that it would be most efficient to locate a bitcoin data mining center on a mountain.
The electricity could be produced with wind turbines with some solar. Cooling would be easy since being up on a mountain significantly lowers the temperature of the air.
You will need a lot of electricity. (Like a small hydroelectric dam's worth). You have to innovate to get it cooled. I would say that it would be most efficient to locate a bitcoin data mining center on a mountain.
The electricity could be produced with wind turbines with some solar. Cooling would be easy since being up on a mountain significantly lowers the temperature of the air.
I design and build or rather used to....
I dont want your bounty but will happily offer up my 2 pence worth.
Not a concept i would choose, cooling is more complex than that....
How many servers are we talking? what are the BTU Raiting etc.....
How will air "flow" work around the space, will each server get enough cooled air
Why not free cooling??? just high speed fans in a small space and extraction can be enough on small setups.
Its not as simple as your question makes it
I dont want your bounty but will happily offer up my 2 pence worth.
Not a concept i would choose, cooling is more complex than that....
How many servers are we talking? what are the BTU Raiting etc.....
How will air "flow" work around the space, will each server get enough cooled air
Why not free cooling??? just high speed fans in a small space and extraction can be enough on small setups.
Its not as simple as your question makes it
I am not sure of the BTU rating, but I will need to dissipate upwards of 40,000 watts.
Air flow would be a bit tricky. I was planning on an intake and exhaust fan to get rid of humidity.
The summer here are brutally hot....can get up to 110 F. high speed fans don't really cut it in those conditions, at least they haven't the last couple years.
Here's a facebook update:
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/07/16/facebook-revises-data-center-cooling-system/
In phase 2 of the Prineville project, Facebook has replaced the misters with an evaporative cooling system featuring adiabatic media made of fiberglass. Warm air enters through the media, which is dampened by a small flow of water that enters the top of the media. The air is cooled as it passes through the wet media.
Air Not Fully “Scrubbed”
The change followed an incident in which a plume of smoke from a fire spread across the area around the Facebook data center. Staff could smell the smoke inside the data center. That prompted the Facebook’s data center team to examine other options for treating and “scrubbing” air as it makes it way into the data center.
To clarify the above, there was a brush fire outside and they were pumping smoke and ash through their data center. They now have a waterfall through filter media that pulls particulates out of the air and into the water.
I actually attempted to make my own swamp cooler for my GPU room, it didn't work out so well as I just was drizzling water through a block of stacked cardboard. Swamp cooler pads aren't available in stores where I live: http://reviews.homedepot.com/1999/100343657/aspen-snow-cool-29-in-x-29-in-replacement-evaporative-cooler-pad-reviews/reviews.htm
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/07/16/facebook-revises-data-center-cooling-system/
In phase 2 of the Prineville project, Facebook has replaced the misters with an evaporative cooling system featuring adiabatic media made of fiberglass. Warm air enters through the media, which is dampened by a small flow of water that enters the top of the media. The air is cooled as it passes through the wet media.
Air Not Fully “Scrubbed”
The change followed an incident in which a plume of smoke from a fire spread across the area around the Facebook data center. Staff could smell the smoke inside the data center. That prompted the Facebook’s data center team to examine other options for treating and “scrubbing” air as it makes it way into the data center.
To clarify the above, there was a brush fire outside and they were pumping smoke and ash through their data center. They now have a waterfall through filter media that pulls particulates out of the air and into the water.
I actually attempted to make my own swamp cooler for my GPU room, it didn't work out so well as I just was drizzling water through a block of stacked cardboard. Swamp cooler pads aren't available in stores where I live: http://reviews.homedepot.com/1999/100343657/aspen-snow-cool-29-in-x-29-in-replacement-evaporative-cooler-pad-reviews/reviews.htm
I design and build or rather used to....
I dont want your bounty but will happily offer up my 2 pence worth.
Not a concept i would choose, cooling is more complex than that....
How many servers are we talking? what are the BTU Raiting etc.....
How will air "flow" work around the space, will each server get enough cooled air
Why not free cooling??? just high speed fans in a small space and extraction can be enough on small setups.
Its not as simple as your question makes it
I dont want your bounty but will happily offer up my 2 pence worth.
Not a concept i would choose, cooling is more complex than that....
How many servers are we talking? what are the BTU Raiting etc.....
How will air "flow" work around the space, will each server get enough cooled air
Why not free cooling??? just high speed fans in a small space and extraction can be enough on small setups.
Its not as simple as your question makes it
Those work best when you are pumping air through the facility, outside air that is already hot and needs to be cooled. You cannot just circulate the same air, unless you want to create a rain forest. If it is cool outside, you don't need vapor cooling, just lots of outside air.
You can look at facebook's system: http://gigaom.com/2012/08/17/a-rare-look-inside-facebooks-oregon-data-center-photos-video/
They use misters to cool lots of outside air - the evaporation of water cools the outside air when it adds humidity.
You can look at facebook's system: http://gigaom.com/2012/08/17/a-rare-look-inside-facebooks-oregon-data-center-photos-video/
They use misters to cool lots of outside air - the evaporation of water cools the outside air when it adds humidity.
I am in need of some technical advice from those in a position to know.
In building out a new "data center" for mining, I am considering different options for cooling the space. I am interested in using a unit like this:
http://portablecoolers.com/models/PAC2K482S.html
My understanding is that evaporative cooling can pose a risk to electronics, as the air might become saturated with moisture. I am in search of some expert advice on this subject.
1) Is this a feasible option?
2) How risky is it?
3) Can the risks be addressed?
4) If not, what is a better option?
Most comprehensive answer, with the best information gets the bounty.
Thanks!
In building out a new "data center" for mining, I am considering different options for cooling the space. I am interested in using a unit like this:
http://portablecoolers.com/models/PAC2K482S.html
My understanding is that evaporative cooling can pose a risk to electronics, as the air might become saturated with moisture. I am in search of some expert advice on this subject.
1) Is this a feasible option?
2) How risky is it?
3) Can the risks be addressed?
4) If not, what is a better option?
Most comprehensive answer, with the best information gets the bounty.
Thanks!
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