Topic: [25PH] New mining pool ConnectBTC.com Launches, now offering 110% PPS! - page 2. (Read 6897 times)

btw ck, what's solo.ckpool.org position or how the miners can vote?

same question regarding kano ckpool

Well I guess to expand on that point, I have made it clear, I think, why the pool isn't voting at the moment.

When I make the PH comment, I don't mean that power sways my decision, I simply mean that I'm open to 'discussions' about what to vote if they can convince me otherwise on technical or philosophical grounds.
But it's based on the fact also that even with the pool at 30PHs we really don't have a say in what happens since we certainly can't directly affect the vote outcome.
'When' we get a lot bigger, then we will have a direct say in it

However, as I've already said, if the network takes the required swing to accept an option, then those left over should also take that option.
By 'required swing' of course I mean 75% for BU or 95% for SegWit

In either case I expect that if momentum gets going above 50% for either option, it shouldn't be long after that for the rest to switch over also, but until the actual switch point, it's still undecided.

If some other option pokes it's head up that most agree with, then that could solve it also.

Edit: The bottom line is that bitcoin is a peer2peer transaction system, and if the majority says 'X' is what the system should now be, then that's what bitcoin now is.
The discussions about changing the PoW to stop a majority rule is beyond stupid.
If groups want some other alt-coin then go create it, but bitcoin is a distributed peer2peer transaction system that is not controlled by some minority that thinks they are the Bitcoin God.

What about miners that want to actively abstain from choosing a side in this scaling war?
Those miners can choose this pool as a way to signal their discontent from the scaling war and both sides.

even if that position is 'we don't want change.' If that's what you really want then at least make it clear.

... and much worse, change of PoW are being bantered around ...

Yes? It's a combination of giving those miners who want to signal the option to do so, and as a way to represent the remainder that have no opinion on the matter. Basically I'm saying a pool should either give miners a choice, or have a position.

Pools are the miners' voice and the miners are the only ones who can reliably activate substantial change. People want to either choose a pool based on what it's signalling or want the pool they're already loyal to to give them the option of signalling what they want. The fact that there are lots of miners that choose pools only due to profit doesn't change the fact that pools are the ones with the actual power to effect change. Pools should be proactive and ahead of what is happening in the bitcoin development space even if the miners are less inclined to be so.

Lack of more concrete messages from the pools is the reason garbage like User Activated Soft Fork and much worse, change of PoW are being bantered around. I understand there is potentially conflict since you're representing bitmain who have a (very unpopular) position of sorts, but you have said you're an independent entity.

To be clear are you saying it's the pools job to signal?

Which means you're focused on running a profit business as much as possible

and attempting to dissociate mining from the bitcoin network at large.

I'm sorry but currently mining voting is the crucial thing lacking, preventing bitcoin from moving forward and I think your position is unacceptable given lack of miner support is what's preventing successful bitcoin evolution.

You cannot pretend mining is dissociated from bitcoin development as much as they can't pretend mining is dissociated from bitcoin development. At this point in time I'd call it negligent for a pool to not at least have a position with respect to segwit, core, and unlimited, even if that position is 'we don't want change.' If that's what you really want then at least make it clear.

It means that we are focused on our customer's needs

So do you mean that you have a voting possibility for miners like Slush pool has?

Are you supporting Bitcoin Core or Bitcoin Unlimited?

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Hey its Gadi..

Ex spondoolies running bitmain israel..

Lulz so either it fake and you wont be able to get the BITMAIN account to post in here saying it isn't fake ...
or worse, it's Bitmain trying to add yet another pool they control while they pretend they don't control a large % of the hash rate.

Yep you can't win with either option