29 x Spondoolies SP30s for sale 6 BTC Each for the LOT - page 3.

wissam32

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Quote from: RoadStress on June 10, 2015, 08:45:13 AM

Quote from: wissam32 on June 10, 2015, 07:34:40 AM

Well you can try and buy a brand new SP miner now if you like. Oh wait they don't sell them anymore... Besides they were not bought 1 year ago it's been since November so that's 7 months.

I would also like to buy a VW Polo 9N3, but they stopped making them in 2009 and nobody is asking the full price for a second hand car and nowhere near the full price of a new car so get real and lower the price.

What I see here is that you haven't considered that the exchange rate may go down and you never prepared for this. It's your call if you want to still mine with them or to sell them and by the looks of it the miners will stay in your possession. Good luck!

I fail to see how 6.5 BTC is not a good price. BTC rate will be going up as soon as the economy bubble crashes because that's when people get rid of their fiat and buy Gold, and this time besides gold there is BTC. Sit tight and hold on to your miners and don't sell for dirt cheap.

Please no more arguing, this is the price and it's not coming down, either buy or ignore.

Wissam

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Quote from: wissam32 on June 10, 2015, 07:34:40 AM

Well you can try and buy a brand new SP miner now if you like. Oh wait they don't sell them anymore... Besides they were not bought 1 year ago it's been since November so that's 7 months.

I would also like to buy a VW Polo 9N3, but they stopped making them in 2009 and nobody is asking the full price for a second hand car and nowhere near the full price of a new car so get real and lower the price.

What I see here is that you haven't considered that the exchange rate may go down and you never prepared for this. It's your call if you want to still mine with them or to sell them and by the looks of it the miners will stay in your possession. Good luck!

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Quote from: RoadStress on June 10, 2015, 01:32:04 AM

Quote from: wissam32 on June 09, 2015, 11:51:10 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on June 09, 2015, 11:03:59 PM

Quote from: wissam32 on June 08, 2015, 12:38:23 AM

That is your opinion, if you find it cheaper elsewhere please go ahead and buy it else where. When we bought them we got them for $4500 each, so be happy that you are getting them for around $1800 or $1600 each if they buy the lot.

Actually you paid ~10 BTC and you want 8 BTC after more than 6-7 months of usage.

Your calculation takes into account when USD rate was 475, so your argument is void. At current rate our purchase price would be 21 BTC, so 7 BTC is not a bad deal.

We would consider 6.5 BTC if you continue hosting with our hosting provider which is cheap and charges a low $75 /KW/Month.

Wissam

And your assumption of 21 BTC is for the price that you paid for a brand new miner almost 1 year ago. Like every used thing the value deprecates so the real value now isn't $4500. When SP-Tech sold out the SP31 miners the price was $2k for a brand new miner, not used like yours so if we take the brand new miner price and we adjust it to the current exchange rate it is ~9BTC so your argument is useless*. So don't try to sell a used car with the a price that is higher than a new car.

*I am aware that converting a price from a few months ago to the current exchange rate is a bit strange, but I did it to show how wrong you are.

Well you can try and buy a brand new SP miner now if you like. Oh wait they don't sell them anymore... Besides they were not bought 1 year ago it's been since November so that's 7 months.

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Quote from: wissam32 on June 09, 2015, 11:51:10 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on June 09, 2015, 11:03:59 PM

Quote from: wissam32 on June 08, 2015, 12:38:23 AM

That is your opinion, if you find it cheaper elsewhere please go ahead and buy it else where. When we bought them we got them for $4500 each, so be happy that you are getting them for around $1800 or $1600 each if they buy the lot.

Actually you paid ~10 BTC and you want 8 BTC after more than 6-7 months of usage.

Your calculation takes into account when USD rate was 475, so your argument is void. At current rate our purchase price would be 21 BTC, so 7 BTC is not a bad deal.

We would consider 6.5 BTC if you continue hosting with our hosting provider which is cheap and charges a low $75 /KW/Month.

Wissam

And your assumption of 21 BTC is for the price that you paid for a brand new miner almost 1 year ago. Like every used thing the value deprecates so the real value now isn't $4500. When SP-Tech sold out the SP31 miners the price was $2k for a brand new miner, not used like yours so if we take the brand new miner price and we adjust it to the current exchange rate it is ~9BTC so your argument is useless*. So don't try to sell a used car with the a price that is higher than a new car.

*I am aware that converting a price from a few months ago to the current exchange rate is a bit strange, but I did it to show how wrong you are.

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Quote from: RoadStress on June 09, 2015, 11:03:59 PM

Quote from: wissam32 on June 08, 2015, 12:38:23 AM

That is your opinion, if you find it cheaper elsewhere please go ahead and buy it else where. When we bought them we got them for $4500 each, so be happy that you are getting them for around $1800 or $1600 each if they buy the lot.

Actually you paid ~10 BTC and you want 8 BTC after more than 6-7 months of usage.

Your calculation takes into account when USD rate was 475, so your argument is void. At current rate our purchase price would be 21 BTC, so 7 BTC is not a bad deal.

We would consider 6.5 BTC if you continue hosting with our hosting provider which is cheap and charges a low $75 /KW/Month.

Wissam

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Quote from: Biffa on June 09, 2015, 08:22:42 PM

Quote from: wh00per on June 09, 2015, 07:34:21 AM

Yeah, but the name is not "new" .. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8937341

Even tried selling them before @ 15BTc each! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9040432

I'd be interested at 5BTC each incl delivery to a US datacenter of my own choice.

Sorry we have an offer for 6 BTC each and that is low, so 5 BTC is a no go unfortunately.

Wissam

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Quote from: wissam32 on June 08, 2015, 12:38:23 AM

That is your opinion, if you find it cheaper elsewhere please go ahead and buy it else where. When we bought them we got them for $4500 each, so be happy that you are getting them for around $1800 or $1600 each if they buy the lot.

Actually you paid ~10 BTC and you want 8 BTC after more than 6-7 months of usage.

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Quote from: wh00per on June 09, 2015, 07:34:21 AM

Yeah, but the name is not "new" .. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8937341

Even tried selling them before @ 15BTc each! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9040432

I'd be interested at 5BTC each incl delivery to a US datacenter of my own choice.

wissam32

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Quote from: wh00per on June 09, 2015, 07:34:21 AM

Yeah, but the name is not "new" .. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8937341

Yes that is me, I couldn't login to that account so I made this new one.

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Yeah, but the name is not "new" .. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8937341

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Quote from: Xian01 on June 08, 2015, 09:33:28 AM

Sure. Listen to wh00per. Bask in the glory and magnanimity of being able to spend $1600-$1800 to purchase something OP originally paid $4500 for.

You should be happy even.

What do I know ?

*shrugs*

PS: Interested buyers, make sure you use escrow when dealing with new accounts. This is a brand new user to these forums.

Quote from: wissam32 on June 08, 2015, 07:34:37 AM

wh00per is a smart apple probably listen to some sense from him ;-)

We created this account to sell the equipment, that's why it's a new account.

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Quote from: mavericklm on June 08, 2015, 11:18:03 AM

))))))))))))))))
nice price man!!!
i don't buy for almost double the price! Tongue

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-6-x-spondoolies-sp30-seattle-area-sale-pending-1082655

in february, the price was around 1600-1500

on 2015-04-30 12:55:00 i bought one sp30 for 5.9btc 'cause i needed to

good luck! Cheesy

If people do sell for less it means they are selling out of fear of losing, we are not afraid, we know we are getting profit and we believe the rate will go up once more BTC end up in the wallets of those that are not afraid.

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))))))))))))))))
nice price man!!!
i don't buy for almost double the price! Tongue

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-6-x-spondoolies-sp30-seattle-area-sale-pending-1082655

in february, the price was around 1600-1500

on 2015-04-30 12:55:00 i bought one sp30 for 5.9btc 'cause i needed to

good luck! Cheesy

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Sure. Listen to wh00per. Bask in the glory and magnanimity of being able to spend $1600-$1800 to purchase something OP originally paid $4500 for.

You should be happy even.

What do I know ?

*shrugs*

PS: Interested buyers, make sure you use escrow when dealing with new accounts. This is a brand new user to these forums.

Quote from: wissam32 on June 08, 2015, 07:34:37 AM

wh00per is a smart apple probably listen to some sense from him ;-)

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Quote from: wh00per on June 08, 2015, 07:20:31 AM

Quote from: spero on June 08, 2015, 06:38:46 AM

I love how "we" should be happy to over pay because "your" paid 4500 each for them.

I am in sales for a living so I am the first person to respect commanding a higher price for an item. That being said, it has to still fit into what the market is willing to pay. Best of luck to you though, I hope you get it!

Remember we're looking at a miner willing to part with his equipment while it's still profitable. Being in sales for a living, makes you have different targets than he has.
IMHO a sales guy tries to make a sale no matter what (get the best price for whatever he has to sell), while an operations guy tries to make a living from managing his equipment, avoiding downtime etc.

One SP30 at this point makes around 1 BTC per month .. you can expect about 25-30 BTC/mo (conservative) from the whole lot. Everyone does their own calculations.

Exactly wh00per, besides we mine solo with these miners and find 2-4 blocks a month so that's 50-100 BTC clear so now you know why we are in no rush to sell. We do expect the USD rate to climb as BTC is now starting to be put to good use much more than before. We give the opportunity to sell as we said because we want to use the funds in other investments NOT because it's not profitable, quite the opposite. The longer we hold on to them the more profit we make, and us selling for a higher price than what other people are offering shows that indeed we are in no rush to sell further proving that it's profitable.

So there you go, we either sell all or nothing because solo mining is profitable only with BIG hash rate like ours and so because of this we will not sell them separately unless the price is 9.0 BTC as that will hurt our solo returns and we can't have that.

wh00per is a smart apple probably listen to some sense from him ;-)

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Quote from: spero on June 08, 2015, 06:38:46 AM

I love how "we" should be happy to over pay because "your" paid 4500 each for them.

I am in sales for a living so I am the first person to respect commanding a higher price for an item. That being said, it has to still fit into what the market is willing to pay. Best of luck to you though, I hope you get it!

Remember we're looking at a miner willing to part with his equipment while it's still profitable. Being in sales for a living, makes you have different targets than he has.
IMHO a sales guy tries to make a sale no matter what (get the best price for whatever he has to sell), while an operations guy tries to make a living from managing his equipment, avoiding downtime etc.

One SP30 at this point makes around 1 BTC per month .. you can expect about 25-30 BTC/mo (conservative) from the whole lot. Everyone does their own calculations.

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Quote from: spero on June 08, 2015, 06:38:46 AM

Quote from: wissam32 on June 08, 2015, 12:38:23 AM

Quote from: Xian01 on June 07, 2015, 11:41:36 PM

Quote from: wissam32 on June 07, 2015, 09:17:35 PM

We are looking to get 8.0 BTC for each of these miners but we can arrange a special discount for the total price of 203.0 BTC (7.0 BTC each)

Who in their right mind would pay 8 BTC for one of these units ?

It's obscenely overpriced.

That is your opinion, if you find it cheaper elsewhere please go ahead and buy it else where. When we bought them we got them for $4500 each, so be happy that you are getting them for around $1800 or $1600 each if they buy the lot.

I love how "we" should be happy to over pay because "your" paid 4500 each for them.

I am in sales for a living so I am the first person to respect commanding a higher price for an item. That being said, it has to still fit into what the market is willing to pay. Best of luck to you though, I hope you get it!

Thanks for your "Professional" Advise. Anyone that is not happy with the price they don't have to buy. We will continue to make profit mining with a respectable hash rate and when the USD rate goes up it will be even better.

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Quote from: wissam32 on June 08, 2015, 12:38:23 AM

Quote from: Xian01 on June 07, 2015, 11:41:36 PM

Quote from: wissam32 on June 07, 2015, 09:17:35 PM

We are looking to get 8.0 BTC for each of these miners but we can arrange a special discount for the total price of 203.0 BTC (7.0 BTC each)

Who in their right mind would pay 8 BTC for one of these units ?

It's obscenely overpriced.

That is your opinion, if you find it cheaper elsewhere please go ahead and buy it else where. When we bought them we got them for $4500 each, so be happy that you are getting them for around $1800 or $1600 each if they buy the lot.

I love how "we" should be happy to over pay because "your" paid 4500 each for them.

I am in sales for a living so I am the first person to respect commanding a higher price for an item. That being said, it has to still fit into what the market is willing to pay. Best of luck to you though, I hope you get it!

wissam32

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Quote from: Xian01 on June 07, 2015, 11:41:36 PM

Quote from: wissam32 on June 07, 2015, 09:17:35 PM

We are looking to get 8.0 BTC for each of these miners but we can arrange a special discount for the total price of 203.0 BTC (7.0 BTC each)

Who in their right mind would pay 8 BTC for one of these units ?

It's obscenely overpriced.

That is your opinion, if you find it cheaper elsewhere please go ahead and buy it else where. When we bought them we got them for $4500 each, so be happy that you are getting them for around $1800 or $1600 each if they buy the lot.

Xian01

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Quote from: wissam32 on June 07, 2015, 09:17:35 PM

We are looking to get 8.0 BTC for each of these miners but we can arrange a special discount for the total price of 203.0 BTC (7.0 BTC each)

Who in their right mind would pay 8 BTC for one of these units ?

It's obscenely overpriced.

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