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October 25, 2019, 03:06:33 PM
Trade too much



The trading volume is too large



Know too many methods



1. it depend on situation , sometimes, market movements can change suddenly. u know like some whales make a pump scenario to coins wich low volume, and posiblity we can take some profit from that if we can follow the whale's movements.

2. well, this might have a point

3. totaly agree about this one, sometimes, when u lose , u will think using another method , but with market conditions that are still the same , it doesn't help much.because basically you have used the wrong method when you first take action trading.it actually makes you seem inconsistent.
I also think that whether to trade or not highly depends on the situation. Not only this, if someone has good day trading skills and can make even little profits on daily basis he should go for it. During the peaks of dumps and pumps, trading volume should always be as large as possible. For the last one, I think it would be enough to say that the more you know, the better you will survive.
Right, in trading you can win big and small both but you will not look down any kind of profit better increase your profit by increasing your knowledge but  always keep your mind open about the price change as buy low but don’t make quick decision to trade for short term it will be much better to trade for long term and make good profit.
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October 25, 2019, 01:29:37 PM
It depends on how the mentality of the trader. In my opinion trading too much can increase your understanding of many situations and gain a lot of experience, can indeed make a burden on the mind. Large volume trading is a good market, and knowing many methods is a great knowledge. this all depends again on how the user can survive the trading situation.
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October 25, 2019, 12:45:15 PM
Some peoples words don't matter to some. In trading we have different strategies that works for us. These strategies don't mean to work to all. This is why it is hard to comment on other traders when they are doing great. Multiple trades daily incurs many fees but so long as these traders are gaining and piling profits then they are doing great. I saw someone that have minimum of 10 trades daily in forex and he was doing great. He may lose some but he offsets it on his next trades.
everyone has his own way of working and all individual have different skill-set. These two factors matter highly in the success of anyone. However, there are some simple rules that need to be followed by all sort of traders if they want to be successful. For instance, no one can make profits if he go against ‘Buy Low, Sell High’ strategy. In order to accomplish this, a trader must be patient and full of knowledge.
The sentence you mentioned is actually a trick for novice traders who are learning. many times I see that there are indeed many who give that opinion. even though it is clearly detrimental to many people. and now it has been proven that many people are already aware that market analysis using indicators is accurate and valid when trading
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October 25, 2019, 12:24:00 PM
after you have studied trading, start from small capital and try and try, as your experience will lead you to the right strategy that will fit to you,

The very same strategy will not work every time. As others said, there are so many strategies. So why do you have stick on only one strategy just because it worked for you a few times? That's unlikely to veteran traders, their mindset and strategies, you could say, are also volatile. It differs from season to season. Later on, you will realize that as an experienced trader, it is crucial to use different strategies for different purposes for different ways in earning profits.
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October 25, 2019, 12:56:26 AM
Some peoples words don't matter to some. In trading we have different strategies that works for us. These strategies don't mean to work to all. This is why it is hard to comment on other traders when they are doing great. Multiple trades daily incurs many fees but so long as these traders are gaining and piling profits then they are doing great. I saw someone that have minimum of 10 trades daily in forex and he was doing great. He may lose some but he offsets it on his next trades.
It should be possible to comment on the strategy that other traders are using to make money and identify even if those strategies could be improved or if they generate profits at all, but most of the time that is not possible for two reasons, the first is that very few traders reveal their strategies because they are afraid that if they do someone is going to steal it and use it to generate money in the market and this could have the effect of their strategy not been as effective as before.

The second reason is that as surprising as it may sound many traders do not have a strategy that you can actually test, their strategy is very subjective and based on what they feel at that moment and it is impossible to test a strategy like that.
Yes, we will have some sort of strategies, and it may the same to others, that is why it is so important to trade on your own ability after you have studied trading, start from small capital and try and try, as your experience will lead you to the right strategy that will fit to you, exchange platform is important too, so trade on a highly reputable exchange.
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October 24, 2019, 02:53:54 PM
Some peoples words don't matter to some. In trading we have different strategies that works for us. These strategies don't mean to work to all. This is why it is hard to comment on other traders when they are doing great. Multiple trades daily incurs many fees but so long as these traders are gaining and piling profits then they are doing great. I saw someone that have minimum of 10 trades daily in forex and he was doing great. He may lose some but he offsets it on his next trades.
It should be possible to comment on the strategy that other traders are using to make money and identify even if those strategies could be improved or if they generate profits at all, but most of the time that is not possible for two reasons, the first is that very few traders reveal their strategies because they are afraid that if they do someone is going to steal it and use it to generate money in the market and this could have the effect of their strategy not been as effective as before.

The second reason is that as surprising as it may sound many traders do not have a strategy that you can actually test, their strategy is very subjective and based on what they feel at that moment and it is impossible to test a strategy like that.
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October 23, 2019, 06:02:52 AM
Trade too much



The trading volume is too large



Know too many methods



1. it depend on situation , sometimes, market movements can change suddenly. u know like some whales make a pump scenario to coins wich low volume, and posiblity we can take some profit from that if we can follow the whale's movements.

2. well, this might have a point

3. totaly agree about this one, sometimes, when u lose , u will think using another method , but with market conditions that are still the same , it doesn't help much.because basically you have used the wrong method when you first take action trading.it actually makes you seem inconsistent.
I also think that whether to trade or not highly depends on the situation. Not only this, if someone has good day trading skills and can make even little profits on daily basis he should go for it. During the peaks of dumps and pumps, trading volume should always be as large as possible. For the last one, I think it would be enough to say that the more you know, the better you will survive.
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October 22, 2019, 09:53:22 PM
The trading volume is too large
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It's somehow true but not applicable for anyone. Too large volume has a advantage for scalpers/day traders who are just targeting a minimal percentage profit in which they are using stop loss to protect their account losing too much since huge trading volume tends to be more volatile thus you have to execute your trades as quick as possible.  

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October 22, 2019, 09:45:16 PM
When it comes to FUDs, I don’t think that should even be any problem to anyone to actually not be able to control, where the large problem is the emotion that is involved in trading, this is where many people fail a lot, because it stops them from having a clear direction on when to buy and when to sell because of some environmental factors.

The best way to actually control our emotion in this aspect is just to make sure that we apply some of these trading tools, which can help us to make decision. I am an emotional person and I will not deny that fact, several times that I had tried to control it by myself, I find it extremely difficult to do so, the only time that I am able to control my emotion is when I apply my stop loss and profit taking tool and I feel this is one of the very vital tool not to toy with.

That isn't true. No matter what we do we can't really "control" entirely our emotions--it's our emotion, after all. What we can do is to manipulate(suppress) it. These tools are just methods/techniques in trading it doesn't really help--when we are trading we can feel excited/depress, but what we forget to do is to be confident in our trades. If you're confident enough: whenever you earn something you're satisfied and whenever you lose something you will not panic. Of course, this needs "getting used to", so practicing this kind of mentality will help you in your future endeavors in trading.




everyone has his own way of working and all individual have different skill-set. These two factors matter highly in the success of anyone. However, there are some simple rules that need to be followed by all sort of traders if they want to be successful. For instance, no one can make profits if he go against ‘Buy Low, Sell High’ strategy. In order to accomplish this, a trader must be patient and full of knowledge.

Yes, as they say, "to each their own". But that's not the only method we can do. Trading sites(applications) now uses an AI to do the trading for you, you will just going to set the amount to when you buy/sell, e.g. if the price would be $3k in the next 24hrs I will set it to buy x amount, then if the price would be $9k+ I will sell x amount.
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October 21, 2019, 02:19:08 PM
I think for the 3 things that should be avoided when trading maybe the first, 1. Patience 2. Emotions and most importantly 3. don't let you be affected by the bad news, so I think this trait you should be able to avoid when trading cryptocurrency because it will make you lose if you can not control all three.
Your emotions are your enemies during business especially when you are involved into something as volatile as the prices of crypto currencies or the values of shares in stock market. As far as rumors are concerned, they are often spread on purpose to make the opponent deal with baseless problems in order to retain its customers.
When it comes to FUDs, I don’t think that should even be any problem to anyone to actually not be able to control, where the large problem is the emotion that is involved in trading, this is where many people fail a lot, because it stops them from having a clear direction on when to buy and when to sell because of some environmental factors.

The best way to actually control our emotion in this aspect is just to make sure that we apply some of these trading tools, which can help us to make decision. I am an emotional person and I will not deny that fact, several times that I had tried to control it by myself, I find it extremely difficult to do so, the only time that I am able to control my emotion is when I apply my stop loss and profit taking tool and I feel this is one of the very vital tool not to toy with.
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October 21, 2019, 01:09:54 PM
Trade too much



The trading volume is too large



Know too many methods



1. it depend on situation , sometimes, market movements can change suddenly. u know like some whales make a pump scenario to coins wich low volume, and posiblity we can take some profit from that if we can follow the whale's movements.

2. well, this might have a point

3. totaly agree about this one, sometimes, when u lose , u will think using another method , but with market conditions that are still the same , it doesn't help much.because basically you have used the wrong method when you first take action trading.it actually makes you seem inconsistent.
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October 21, 2019, 11:45:59 AM
We can't blame a person to become greed, it plays around even before in ancient times. A lot of ways that people could be in greediness, either claiming the power or in money matters. Most likely we are living in that way, even a President, even a businessman, we can't escape from this because we are a human and we live into that. It won't be bad or a threat to our life if we are doing in the right thing, not in illegality.

I think you didn't even respond/reply to my post, you just reiterate what I've said.

People think that "greed" is a way of feeling, but I'd say it's a way of thinking. The decisions you made are all in your head, it is determined--even if it is wrong or not. That's why I argue that "greediness" is influenced by feelings. We could be driven by feelings, yes, we can't deny that but that doesn't change the fact that "greediness" is a choice.

So you are saying that human beings are innately "greedy"(?), could you discuss it further? I'm not convinced.
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October 21, 2019, 08:37:04 AM
#99
Trade too much
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The trading volume is too large
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Know too many methods
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I like your information and this three are all the most common problems of a trader. At some point we don't know how different traders use this but they are able to gain profit.
Trading to much is not good but for some traders who master their own techniques will trade too much but will exit after lossing some small amounts.

Trading too much volume
This is a high risk, high reward of course it need to be calculated and all trade plans should be followed or adjusted within the market. Many high volume traders manage to earn.

Knowing many methods
It is good if we know and learn to apply every single method in a profitable manner or with a strong strategy that we can used.
Actually these three things can be something positive if we use it well right? Who says, having lots of strategies is a bad thing? but if you focus too much with many methods it will certainly make you dizzy right? The point is you have to be wise in using the methods and strategies that you master.
Then too much volume can also be a positive thing because you can make profits quickly because the market is crowded. And too much trading is also positive because it provides a large profit to you, all of that have positive and negative effects.
I also agree with you, although everyone understands that too much is not good but sometimes we should not only look at this negativity, we should see the good points when we do something too much, as many methods will bring many ways to survive in many different markets. Large volumes or too much trading will not be a scary thing when we manage and monitor everything, should not be too in trading is probably too rushed, this market moves too fast making us forced to react according to but unfortunately, this is not recommended when it is very easy to make mistakes.
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October 21, 2019, 07:56:49 AM
#98
Trade too much
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The trading volume is too large
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Know too many methods
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I like your information and this three are all the most common problems of a trader. At some point we don't know how different traders use this but they are able to gain profit.
Trading to much is not good but for some traders who master their own techniques will trade too much but will exit after lossing some small amounts.

Trading too much volume
This is a high risk, high reward of course it need to be calculated and all trade plans should be followed or adjusted within the market. Many high volume traders manage to earn.

Knowing many methods
It is good if we know and learn to apply every single method in a profitable manner or with a strong strategy that we can used.
Actually these three things can be something positive if we use it well right? Who says, having lots of strategies is a bad thing? but if you focus too much with many methods it will certainly make you dizzy right? The point is you have to be wise in using the methods and strategies that you master.
Then too much volume can also be a positive thing because you can make profits quickly because the market is crowded. And too much trading is also positive because it provides a large profit to you, all of that have positive and negative effects.
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October 21, 2019, 05:25:10 AM
#97
Trade too much

This is probably the very common case. Trade too many orders at a time. I once met surfing traders who traded hundreds of orders a day. Almost every day glued to the screen to transact. People who trade this way often hate to set stoploss, of course I still meet people with stoploss and they often take short profits, enter the market continuously and can say their trading history is very beautiful. , rarely see loss orders.
However, once they are at a loss, these traders are the ones who are most psychologically vulnerable, but because they trade often, they always put their capital and psychology behind the priority list. transaction plan. A single loss can make them more vulnerable to psychological and trading out of control. Even resulting in gongs and account destruction.
There is another case that is trade addiction. These traders often prefer to enter continuous orders. Sometimes they don't have any basis for trading, because they want to trade, want to be able to get in and out and see a positive account. But once they lose, they easily fall into the kind of revenge deal. Often new traders easily fall into this situation. In any case, it's still not good for traders at all. If you are at a loss in this case then do not blame anyone, you are the cause of your account.
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The trading volume is too large

This is yet another common case for trades that clearly show greed and desire to eat thick. No matter how good your analysis is, if you enter the market with such a large volume you are gambling. You ignore the probability of the market.
Trading volume is too large, which makes the trader psychologically if the price goes against the judgment. This proves that traders have no rules in capital management and gradually it becomes a habit that makes traders overlook stoploss placement. It is a very dangerous thinking, if keeping this way of trading, it is very difficult to go far from the market.
When trading large amounts, your account goes faster than you think. Once you lose money, this loss will cause you to lose control and make many wrong decisions and lead to losing money. So if you have a large trade loss, do not rush to blame the market or method. The number one cause lies in yourself.

Know too many methods

Many traders take a long time to read and save on trading and then apply to their account. The result is more than expected. Losing no more armor, losing to the end.
This is also the case without exception. The trading method is what makes traders the easiest to fall in. Rarely does anyone try to be patient with a method, learn every nook and cranny of that method to confirm whether they are effective or not, but the trader just keeps looking at the profits and then trading for a couple of weeks to see no results. is to find another.
When I know too many methods, it is easy for a trader to realize that I know a lot about trading, I go through many methods, each holding a little. But the final problem is that the trade is still inefficient, even though the trade knows much, sometimes it makes the trade make the wrong trading decision. Knowing too many methods easily makes traders lose confidence and frustration.
Best traders should not know many methods, just understand and know how to operate 1 to 2 methods is good enough. Left focus on managing capital and psychology. Slowly the results will be improved.
In short, anything too is not good. Everything should be at a moderate level, we learn a little bit each day, trade a little bit each day, forge a little each day. We go slowly, the results come slowly and go hand in hand throughout our trading journey. If you do not want to lose, firstly traders need to remember 3 things that should not be so in trading!


Good points, but I don't think trading too much is a problem in itself. Algorithms make a lot of money daily through high volume trading (you can verify this with a few google searches) and I believe that it's the trading too much without a plan thats the issue. If you plan to trade, you should plan to both win and lose as well, the psychological effect is only a side-effect and can easily be handled as long as you have a plan B for when a trade goes wrong.
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October 21, 2019, 04:53:04 AM
#96
one more, many people said that trading is a game, but i think that's wrong. because if it is a game, traders just do it for have fun, not serious to do
so, having perspective trading is like game should not do by traders. because wrong perspective can affect so much in the trading OFC
trading must treat like a bussines. focuss, accountable, keep learning, patience, hard work, research
Being emotional is one thing and taking decisions out of these emotions is other. We all are humans and this is impossible to be a robot for us. A trader can skip panic selling if he truly believes his asset and follows the simple rule of buying low, selling high. However, if a trader is trading with a new token and expects it to be a reliable and profit promising like bitcoin, that is not possible.
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October 21, 2019, 04:20:14 AM
#95
Trade too much
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The trading volume is too large
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Know too many methods
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I like your information and this three are all the most common problems of a trader. At some point we don't know how different traders use this but they are able to gain profit.
Trading to much is not good but for some traders who master their own techniques will trade too much but will exit after lossing some small amounts.

Trading too much volume
This is a high risk, high reward of course it need to be calculated and all trade plans should be followed or adjusted within the market. Many high volume traders manage to earn.

Knowing many methods
It is good if we know and learn to apply every single method in a profitable manner or with a strong strategy that we can used.
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October 20, 2019, 04:47:40 PM
#94
One thing that I believe is very important is knowledge, as this is what you MUST have if you are to succeed in trading. I find this rather easy and simple with YouTube and other platforms, as through this it really helps me to move forward. We can learn a lot with Crypto Videos or various other ways for trading, it’s all that makes you feel comfortable and is one solid option through which you can make good and consistent amount of money.
Make sure that you subscribed to an actual crypto trader,there are lot of youtubers pretending to be crypto traders just to get some views so we can't trust everyone,we also have to check other social media platform of that person,if he is actually good predictor then we can learn from him.
Exactly there are a lot of YouTubers who only make videos about trade prediction, actually they do not know anything about trading, but there are some genuine youtube channels and other websites which I use to get knowledge about trading because of which I have earn a good amount of profit in trading. So I think in trading patience and knowledge is the most important thing.
You forgot one thing "lucky", why is that? because even though you have enough insight about trading, but if you are not lucky it has no meaning.

For example, technically the support is at range of 1500 sat, and you place a bid at 1510 sat. If you are lucky that target will be reached, but if you are not lucky yet that target will not be reached.

In short, if the support is 1500 sat and you place a bid at 1510, because you are not lucky, the price only touches up to 1511 sat.
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October 20, 2019, 03:01:38 PM
#93
For me, it depends on the person/ trader, which is his/her weakness in trading, but most reasons are emotions, patience, overreact. When it comes to emotions, its like patience because if you can't manage well your emotions, it ends up breaking all your plans and calculations. We all have a different range when we buy and sell, but if you can't deal patiently with for your profitable rate, I'm sure it will be different calculations. Also, some trader is overreacting that they panic selling their cryptos because of some fake news/ unreliable news. Smiley
Patience as always, we often read or heard this world in every trading venues that we will going to deal with this business. You need to bring a lots of this while working with your investment as you can control your emotions correctly if you have patience to analyze before you react with the any situational things that might affects your trading system.

Chances of surviving is much higher when you know that you can stay calm while you are observing what possible trading strategy to use in order not to lose your position.
Patience has been trait of apostles, saints and successful people. This is a rare trait and people don’t understand its importance until and unless they have taken some wrong decisions in haste. There are numerous examples where traders lose huge amount of money because of being impatient. Those people who are impulsive shall never ever do trading.
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October 20, 2019, 02:47:56 AM
#92
Some peoples words don't matter to some. In trading we have different strategies that works for us. These strategies don't mean to work to all. This is why it is hard to comment on other traders when they are doing great. Multiple trades daily incurs many fees but so long as these traders are gaining and piling profits then they are doing great. I saw someone that have minimum of 10 trades daily in forex and he was doing great. He may lose some but he offsets it on his next trades.
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