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Quote from: log2exp on April 03, 2024, 11:34:50 AM

Quote from: Sunderland on April 03, 2024, 11:07:10 AM

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Bitfinex hacked coins should be returned to Bitfinex, right?

It should be, but the problem is complicated now, so the bitcoins from Bitfinex hacked will be in the hand of US Gov for a while/years.

Bitfinex was hacked 119K BTC back in 2016 when the BTC price was still below $600.
Bitfinex has released BFX tokens and given to all accounts affected by the hack with a portion of 1 BFX for every $1 lost.

And all BFX token have been exchanged for cash/other coins or to buy RRT (recovery right tokens).
If the lost BTC can be recovered, the funds will be distributed to all RRT token holders with a calculation of 1 RRT = $1.

The total supply of RRT token is 30M = $30M. And the 119K BTC now worth more than $7B.

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Quote from: Sunderland on April 03, 2024, 11:07:10 AM

Quote from: BABY SHOES on April 03, 2024, 10:39:57 AM

No wonder the price collapsed again because of this negative sentiment that the US government will sell all the proceeds from confiscated bitcoins.

The news is that the US government still has around 209K bitcoins is that true? If so maybe the US government will sell on a scale.

Quote from: adaseb on April 03, 2024, 12:27:49 AM

Does anyone have the transaction Id for this transaction?

You can see this transaction where the US Government sent the mentioned amount of bitcoin to Coinbase.

[1] https://platform.arkhamintelligence.com/explorer/tx/b614dd2e0fa06d776ee4d45973fab5ceb6e2dfebfb84e5f7bd45ef0975455240

I think 209K BTC is too much, if we look at the total of BTC confiscated by the US Gov:
Silk Road 69,369 BTC
Bitfinex Hack 94,643 BTC
James Zhong - 51,326 BTC

In total around 215K of BTC and the estimate balance now is 164K - dang it almost 1% of all BTC currently in circulation.
Blackrock and MicroStrategy might be buy more cheap bitcoins soon ...

source: https://dune.com/21co/us-gov-bitcoin-holdings

Bitfinex hacked coins should be returned to Bitfinex, right?

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For me, this is great news, because the sooner they sell all the BTC they seized, the better for all of us. Although, on the other hand, you don't need to be a genius to conclude where the majority (if not all coins) will most likely end up, given that BlackRock does all its BTC transactions through the respective CEX.

It will take about a week (more or less) for the ETFs to "consume" 30k BTC with what Grayscale dumps on a practically daily basis - and so far they have sold more than 300 000 BTC in less than 3 months - I am surprised that the price of BTC has not drop to $3000 Roll Eyes

(sarcasm of course)

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Quote from: BABY SHOES on April 03, 2024, 10:39:57 AM

No wonder the price collapsed again because of this negative sentiment that the US government will sell all the proceeds from confiscated bitcoins.

The news is that the US government still has around 209K bitcoins is that true? If so maybe the US government will sell on a scale.

Quote from: adaseb on April 03, 2024, 12:27:49 AM

Does anyone have the transaction Id for this transaction?

You can see this transaction where the US Government sent the mentioned amount of bitcoin to Coinbase.

[1] https://platform.arkhamintelligence.com/explorer/tx/b614dd2e0fa06d776ee4d45973fab5ceb6e2dfebfb84e5f7bd45ef0975455240

I think 209K BTC is too much, if we look at the total of BTC confiscated by the US Gov:
Silk Road 69,369 BTC
Bitfinex Hack 94,643 BTC
James Zhong - 51,326 BTC

In total around 215K of BTC and the estimate balance now is 164K - dang it almost 1% of all BTC currently in circulation.
Blackrock and MicroStrategy might be buy more cheap bitcoins soon ...

source: https://dune.com/21co/us-gov-bitcoin-holdings

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Quote from: STT on April 02, 2024, 06:27:37 PM

Its pretty funny US government uses Coinbase like that or maybe its deliberate kind of free advertising and inadvertently backing the idea of using Coinbase rather then more foreign exchanges possible to use or other avenues.

The US government is not using any exchange directly.
Unless they have a court order on seeing said coins to the auction so sums might be returned to victims of a said incident, they will let a 3rd party deal with it, it was previously Bitgo and now it's Anchorage Digital
https://www.occ.gov/news-issuances/news-releases/2021/nr-occ-2021-6.html

So this move means that AD got the lights to liquidate the funds.

Quote from: Yaunfitda on April 02, 2024, 08:55:32 PM

And so this is the reason why the sudden drop of the price in the last 48 hours?

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/9c3af4b48e66565f1da1da8278036fa1dbb09f2beaaca99c3504475390ba4590
The tx happened 22 hours ago, the drop happened almost one day earlier, if we match the hours on the graph it was around the first green candle after hitting 64192.

Quote from: BABY SHOES on April 03, 2024, 10:39:57 AM

No wonder the price collapsed again because of this negative sentiment that the US government will sell all the proceeds from confiscated bitcoins.

The price collapsed before the moved!

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No wonder the price collapsed again because of this negative sentiment that the US government will sell all the proceeds from confiscated bitcoins.

The news is that the US government still has around 209K bitcoins is that true? If so maybe the US government will sell on a scale.

Quote from: adaseb on April 03, 2024, 12:27:49 AM

Does anyone have the transaction Id for this transaction?

You can see this transaction where the US Government sent the mentioned amount of bitcoin to Coinbase.

[1] https://platform.arkhamintelligence.com/explorer/tx/b614dd2e0fa06d776ee4d45973fab5ceb6e2dfebfb84e5f7bd45ef0975455240

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I'm sure there will be a lot of people interested in buying those coins in an auction so it's a wonder why the government has to send it to Coinbase but I'm speculating these coins are meant to be sent for Blackrock to buy. And I mean Coinbase is the custodial of Bitcoin ETF.

I'm sure they could really be dealing in secret if they should but it's in blockchain so let it be public.

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Does anyone have the transaction Id for this transaction? Reason why is because the day prior we had a big dump from $70K. And it seems like someone might of been watching those addresses and started to short as soon as the funds got moved.

Or maybe there was some leak that the money was going to get sent to Coinbase. Either way I am wondering how it will be sold. In the past it was always auctioned off. However they sent it to an exchange which is strange. Maybe it’s for some Coinbase OTC deal?

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The price dropped in the first 3 days of April and I hope they sold all of these bitcoins. The US government or any organization selling bitcoin is always a beneficial sign for the market because it will be an opportunity for us to buy DIP. Many people are confused, but with the bitcoin price adjusting in the past 3 days, it is necessary and a condition for us to conquer higher goals this April.

And I personally think that the bitcoin correction is done and now it's time for bitcoin to only go up and up. And another thing is that halving is coming closer than ever and the opportunity to buy cheap bitcoin is also gradually closing, so we should accumulate as much as possible every time bitcoin price correction.

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Quote from: electronicash on April 02, 2024, 04:57:22 PM

https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1775213820526694594
US government sends over 30,170 Bitcoin worth $2 billion to Coinbase using Silk Road hack funds, per Bitcoin Magazine.

with information like this one, what could you speculate to happen in the next few weeks due to this?
anyone could come up a theory of what could actually happen before and after halving with just this story. but i wanna read your opinion about this one.

Now those funds moved then there would really be only just that one possible approach to this on which it would really be sold and thats not a shocking news anymore. Those in government are greedy bastards and since
they've get a hold of those huge amount of coins or specifically Bitcoin and sees up the value is on rooftop then selling as of this moment is also a sweet spot. Its impossible that they wont really be having those considerations specially that they have transferred those coins. Its impossible that they would really be just staring at it when they could snipped out $2B.. No one on their right minds that they would really be
letting that kind of opportunity to let it slip.

So we should expect some significant dump before halving or after halving once this bag would really be released. Well, no one really knows on what the real purpose of such
transfer but its impossible that we cant really be able to picture out.

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Quote from: electronicash on April 02, 2024, 04:57:22 PM

https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1775213820526694594
US government sends over 30,170 Bitcoin worth $2 billion to Coinbase using Silk Road hack funds, per Bitcoin Magazine.

with information like this one, what could you speculate to happen in the next few weeks due to this?
anyone could come up a theory of what could actually happen before and after halving with just this story. but i wanna read your opinion about this one.

And so this is the reason why the sudden drop of the price in the last 48 hours? We peaked again at $71k, but it is now settled at $65k and I'm trying to find what the news that might cause the traders for a huge sell-off. Anyhow, even if this is the reason, at least the price is above $60k and for sure, this is just temporary setback. And if they have sold it already then good. We will just have to wait when the price will bounce back. And if we are long term holders, then buy at this dip and continue. We shouldn't be affected, we are already in the bull run and this kind of news is just a drop.

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Its pretty funny US government uses Coinbase like that or maybe its deliberate kind of free advertising and inadvertently backing the idea of using Coinbase rather then more foreign exchanges possible to use or other avenues. I always liked the ancient escrow site where BTC is exchanged but thats gone now sadly, theres enough newly invented paperwork to fell the rainforests for good at this point I think thats at least half the reason in many operations choosing to close down nowadays.

In terms of the amount sent, I believe they will not sell all at once or even within 1 month most likely it will distributed over time. Same policy of a program to sell over time and ensure even liquidity as any large issuance policy is performed by. US government being also the largest debtor to ever exist will surely be well versed in the idea of communicating with buyers to not overwhelm demand so I think its over a long time not a lump sum falling in and making a giant splash in the market.

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with information like this one, what could you speculate to happen in the next few weeks due to this?

Short term depressant around each batch of selling. Trading opportunity more then fundamentals.

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^ I think a pretty large dump occurred just on the news. I think this could have a large effect on the price, but it will be temporary, just like GBTC which is about halfway done and the coming mtgox coins. It’ll take some time to digest all this supply but the market will and once it has we will get back into price discovery territory.

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Quote from: electronicash on April 02, 2024, 04:57:22 PM

https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1775213820526694594
US government sends over 30,170 Bitcoin worth $2 billion to Coinbase using Silk Road hack funds, per Bitcoin Magazine.

with information like this one, what could you speculate to happen in the next few weeks due to this?
anyone could come up a theory of what could actually happen before and after halving with just this story. but i wanna read your opinion about this one.

Logically, prices will drop drastically. That is a natural response from traders, but I am sure the impact of selling bitcoin will not be big as long as they sell it gradually. There are always those who want to buy all the bitcoins even if the value reaches $2B, in fact I'm sure some of them have already been sold when you create this thread.

The market response to this news may be very negative, but I don't think a major price dump will occur. As I write, the price of bitcoin is $65,600 and I will wait to see how the market responds after some time from now.

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https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1775213820526694594
US government sends over 30,170 Bitcoin worth $2 billion to Coinbase using Silk Road hack funds, per Bitcoin Magazine.

with information like this one, what could you speculate to happen in the next few weeks due to this?
anyone could come up a theory of what could actually happen before and after halving with just this story. but i wanna read your opinion about this one.

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