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May 24, 2022, 10:34:41 AM
What a historical play for the Indonesian basketball team when they beat the Philippines team earlier, it's the first time since I was born to see them win a gold medal in the Sea Games. They took it personally and managed to outscore the Philippines basketball team throughout the game. The Philippines wasted so many shots to take the lead but what can they do when they aren't against the other teams that they beat earlier which wasn't that easy to score especially since the defense was intense and so much pressure.
looks like nasional competition running well and alot potential player born from here. since few years ago coaching from an early age launched and competition between high school around city started. alot good players founded here and some of them become national players. its historical for Indonesia basket ball players since 13 years ago they could beat Philipines which is knowns as the king of south east.
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May 24, 2022, 03:24:25 AM
the 31st Sout East Asian Games have ended yesterday, I've posted the final medal tally if anyone is interested in looking at it(quoted below). I will leave the thread open for a few more days before closing the thread in case anyone has something more to say about the SEA Games.

latest medal tally: looks like this will be the final ranking in the medal tally with Vietnam in the lead.

Congratulation to all the athletes that participated in the 31st SEA Games, I am sure this biennial sporting event has been a great experience for them.


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May 23, 2022, 11:55:37 PM
Coach Chot Reyes didn't even think of playing the entire roster, especially the young gunners and become comfortable because of PH's recent win in a big lead. And then, later on, he will say to the media that the loss is because some players didn't participate in the roster? What kind of reasoning is that.

I'm not mad. Just a bit of concern because it shows there's really a problem managing the Gilas squad. I should say, "politics".
Overconfidence has its downside and hope Coach Chot remembers that from now on, hoping Gilas will get the likes of Baldwin or Cone in the international series. It's not because of the roster tbh, they are indeed have the best lineup, they just don't think Indonesia wouldn't get them or they underestimate them I guess.

Yeah, I agree to this. They overestimated it, as I would say they are no match for Gilas, but overconfidence can be deadly. I think he is thinking that they could conserve energy if not playing others and could boost or give a greater chance to win in the next game. But regardless of what happened, Chot Reyes is still a good coach, it's just that he made some mistakes. I'm hoping that if he's the coach next season, he can make a comeback.
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May 23, 2022, 11:01:14 PM
Coach Chot Reyes didn't even think of playing the entire roster, especially the young gunners and become comfortable because of PH's recent win in a big lead. And then, later on, he will say to the media that the loss is because some players didn't participate in the roster? What kind of reasoning is that.

I'm not mad. Just a bit of concern because it shows there's really a problem managing the Gilas squad. I should say, "politics".
Overconfidence has its downside and hope Coach Chot remembers that from now on, hoping Gilas will get the likes of Baldwin or Cone in the international series. It's not because of the roster tbh, they are indeed have the best lineup, they just don't think Indonesia wouldn't get them or they underestimate them I guess.
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May 23, 2022, 07:54:32 PM
I’m disappointed too but of course we have to admit that Indonesia is also a strong country and we should accept this defeat for a better system and better improvements. Maybe, Gilas are too confident this year and they forget to focus on the game. For sure next year we will bounce back and expect more good players to join Gilas, though i hope they change the coaching staff because let’s admit it, they didn’t do well on that game and they should be fired.

I'm not saying the Philippines is unbeatable but some of Indonesia' games are struggling against those teams that PH beats in a large lead. They are not that strong but yeah, the roster improves because of 2 imports that may be naturalized? I'm not sure. But it doesn't change the fact that PH should have an easy win against them.

Coach Chot Reyes didn't even think of playing the entire roster, especially the young gunners and become comfortable because of PH's recent win in a big lead. And then, later on, he will say to the media that the loss is because some players didn't participate in the roster? What kind of reasoning is that.

I'm not mad. Just a bit of concern because it shows there's really a problem managing the Gilas squad. I should say, "politics".
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May 23, 2022, 06:37:25 PM
latest medal tally: looks like this will be the final ranking in the medal tally with Vietnam in the lead.

Congratulation to all the athletes that participated in the 31st SEA Games, I am sure this biennial sporting event has been a great experience for them.


Congratulations to Vietnam, for being the host and also having the top of the tally. All of the athletes that have won and also those that don't. It's a great experience to be part of this for them.

And if they've failed for this 31st sea games, they'll just have to comeback stronger on the next one and they'll eventually reach their main goal of topping on the sport that they're competing and aim for the gold.
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May 23, 2022, 05:52:38 PM
Disappointed in PH men's basketball squad. We are dominating the basketball in the South East since 1989. All of those Gold Medals that PH won in men's basketball are dominating that all wins are averaging 40+ points lead.
I'm disappointed with the outcome of that game too because as what you have said, the Philippines is dominating this sport for 4 decades, and just like that we were dethroned. They said that coach Toroman did a brilliant job of leading the Indonesians to where they are now but I said that they got a ton of help from PH dirty politics.
When I just said we could dominate the basketball as the reigning champs for decades and then this happened. What a turn of events to be honest I never really thought that they will be ousted in that gold category. Toroman and Indonesia is surely rejoicing right now and I guess they deserve that win, we can't change it back anymore.
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May 23, 2022, 05:40:44 PM
Disappointed in PH men's basketball squad. We are dominating the basketball in the South East since 1989. All of those Gold Medals that PH won in men's basketball are dominating that all wins are averaging 40+ points lead.

I'm disappointed with the outcome of that game too because as what you have said, the Philippines is dominating this sport for 4 decades, and just like that we were dethroned. They said that coach Toroman did a brilliant job of leading the Indonesians to where they are now but I said that they got a ton of help from PH dirty politics.
I’m disappointed too but of course we have to admit that Indonesia is also a strong country and we should accept this defeat for a better system and better improvements. Maybe, Gilas are too confident this year and they forget to focus on the game. For sure next year we will bounce back and expect more good players to join Gilas, though i hope they change the coaching staff because let’s admit it, they didn’t do well on that game and they should be fired.
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May 23, 2022, 05:29:50 PM
Disappointed in PH men's basketball squad. We are dominating the basketball in the South East since 1989. All of those Gold Medals that PH won in men's basketball are dominating that all wins are averaging 40+ points lead.

I'm disappointed with the outcome of that game too because as what you have said, the Philippines is dominating this sport for 4 decades, and just like that we were dethroned. They said that coach Toroman did a brilliant job of leading the Indonesians to where they are now but I said that they got a ton of help from PH dirty politics.



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May 23, 2022, 02:53:11 AM
What a historical play for the Indonesian basketball team when they beat the Philippines team earlier, it's the first time since I was born to see them win a gold medal in the Sea Games. They took it personally and managed to outscore the Philippines basketball team throughout the game. The Philippines wasted so many shots to take the lead but what can they do when they aren't against the other teams that they beat earlier which wasn't that easy to score especially since the defense was intense and so much pressure.
the game changed to be honest, because at first in the early game i thought philippines will dominate the game since most of the representative are best players and well known as well in Philippine basketball, but yeah they missed a lot shots on the game and their performance seem become not good, i mean no chemistry.  So this is literally a better luck next time for Ph.
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May 23, 2022, 02:28:31 AM
latest medal tally: looks like this will be the final ranking in the medal tally with Vietnam in the lead.

Congratulation to all the athletes that participated in the 31st SEA Games, I am sure this biennial sporting event has been a great experience for them.




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I was disappointed too, Gilas is a strong contender to get the gold and the Philippines was rooting for them to take another gold for their country. I hope what happened will be a lesson for them.

for anyone who wants to watch the closing ceremony, it will start at 8:00pm(GMT+7) Vietnam time.
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May 22, 2022, 07:20:41 PM

Disappointed in PH men's basketball squad. We are dominating the basketball in the South East since 1989. All of those Gold Medals that PH won in men's basketball are dominating that all wins are averaging 40+ points lead.

I previously posted here my concerns when PH struggles against Thailand. But after that, they dominated their next 3 games in a big lead until Indonesia snap the dominance for almost 3 decades.

The PH basketball squad should take that seriously. Honestly, with no offense, an SMC team in the local league, Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) can beat the Indonesian team. That's how serious the problem is in Gilas squad.
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May 22, 2022, 05:27:15 PM
It's nice to see more games in South East Asian Games especially e-sports where I fully supported.

MLBB is one of the known games in the esports category and the support for those games from countries who has representatives is wild. I've heard that the PH vs Indo is wild that Indo supporters reported the instagram of MLBB PH because PH got the gold medal. MLBB is very famous in those countries and I understand the frustrations but if the news were true, It's not good to show unsportsmanlike.
Indonesia and Philippines are always been like this, this is like a huge competition for them and the good thing is, best team won the price. Every SEA games there’s a new games added since the host country can add and remove sports/games depends on them. PHI is a defending Champion in MLBB, I think PH is the on who introduce MLBB in the SEA games if I’m not mistaken.
eSports started in SEA Games last 2019 and not just MLBB, you can see a lot of games that time and most probably this will always be part of SEA games as we see a good result from this games. SEA games is about to end and we have a great experience watching the athletes and players doing their best for their home country. They will have a short break because next year, Cambodia will be the host country and that could be more exciting.
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May 22, 2022, 05:08:02 PM
It's nice to see more games in South East Asian Games especially e-sports where I fully supported.

MLBB is one of the known games in the esports category and the support for those games from countries who has representatives is wild. I've heard that the PH vs Indo is wild that Indo supporters reported the instagram of MLBB PH because PH got the gold medal. MLBB is very famous in those countries and I understand the frustrations but if the news were true, It's not good to show unsportsmanlike.
Indonesia and Philippines are always been like this, this is like a huge competition for them and the good thing is, best team won the price. Every SEA games there’s a new games added since the host country can add and remove sports/games depends on them. PHI is a defending Champion in MLBB, I think PH is the on who introduce MLBB in the SEA games if I’m not mistaken.
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May 22, 2022, 04:35:36 PM
It's nice to see more games in South East Asian Games especially e-sports where I fully supported.

MLBB is one of the known games in the esports category and the support for those games from countries who has representatives is wild. I've heard that the PH vs Indo is wild that Indo supporters reported the instagram of MLBB PH because PH got the gold medal. MLBB is very famous in those countries and I understand the frustrations but if the news were true, It's not good to show unsportsmanlike.
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May 22, 2022, 04:19:29 PM
What a historical play for the Indonesian basketball team when they beat the Philippines team earlier, it's the first time since I was born to see them win a gold medal in the Sea Games. They took it personally and managed to outscore the Philippines basketball team throughout the game. The Philippines wasted so many shots to take the lead but what can they do when they aren't against the other teams that they beat earlier which wasn't that easy to score especially since the defense was intense and so much pressure.

No offense to our Gilas, but those crucial missed might change the outcome of the game. It was the very first time since 1989 that PH losses there

gold medal in men's basketball category, we are being treated as the dream team of the southeast Asian game, that 2 weeks' preparation ain't

enough to established the solid squad to represent our country. Maybe this embarrassment can turn to a good motivation for the upcoming

world cup, will any possibilities that change with coaching staff and players will take place?

Well this is the cost of unseating head coach Baldwin.

It was a defeat that one have seen for the last 30 years. But with this lost, PH will have a lot things to do because it will cohost the next FIBA 2023 world cup with Indonesian themselves and Japan. So they better prepare to send the best team here if they wanted to get their position in the region.
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May 22, 2022, 02:16:18 PM
What a historical play for the Indonesian basketball team when they beat the Philippines team earlier, it's the first time since I was born to see them win a gold medal in the Sea Games. They took it personally and managed to outscore the Philippines basketball team throughout the game. The Philippines wasted so many shots to take the lead but what can they do when they aren't against the other teams that they beat earlier which wasn't that easy to score especially since the defense was intense and so much pressure.

No offense to our Gilas, but those crucial missed might change the outcome of the game. It was the very first time since 1989 that PH losses there

gold medal in men's basketball category, we are being treated as the dream team of the southeast Asian game, that 2 weeks' preparation ain't

enough to established the solid squad to represent our country. Maybe this embarrassment can turn to a good motivation for the upcoming

world cup, will any possibilities that change with coaching staff and players will take place?

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May 22, 2022, 11:01:16 AM
What a historical play for the Indonesian basketball team when they beat the Philippines team earlier, it's the first time since I was born to see them win a gold medal in the Sea Games. They took it personally and managed to outscore the Philippines basketball team throughout the game. The Philippines wasted so many shots to take the lead but what can they do when they aren't against the other teams that they beat earlier which wasn't that easy to score especially since the defense was intense and so much pressure.
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May 22, 2022, 10:30:31 AM
Vietnam vs Thailand U23 SEA Games 2022 soccer results Host Vietnam won 1-0 thanks to Nham Manh Dung's long-range header in the 82nd minute which became the only goal scorer in the match.
from the start of the match in the first half the two U23 national teams both attacked each other but in the end Vietnam was able to score a goal at the end of the match and became champions and also got gold which was getting further and further at the top of the standings.

and currently there is a big match malaysia vs indonesia that is taking place and will fight for the 3rd place, and i predict indonesia will win and become 3rd place to get bronze.
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May 22, 2022, 10:10:21 AM
Look at Cambodia, currently having the worst standing right? But surely, they will top the medal tally next SEA Games as the host country.
not really, in the last 2015 SEA Games which was held in Singapore, Singapore placed second in the medal tally with 84 gold and Thailand taking the leading spot with 95 gold. so, being the Host country for SEA Games doesn't mean they'll dominate the competition. that being said, they'll the advantage since they can pick what sports they can add on which they can dominate.
Second place is still a nice spot. That really shows that being a host country can do wonders. The explanation can be is that they are more confident if they are playing within their country and on their country there are many people that will support them as when compare to when they travel on their countries. Didn't knew that a host country can pick their own games, I thought there are other people that manages these things but thanks for the info there.

To host or not, every country's performance will still depend on their determination to win and on how hard they practice. There is no guarantee that Cambodia will top next event but maybe they will? Because they will take this failure as a motivation to push their selves more.
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