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legendary
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March 12, 2017, 10:44:50 PM
#53
The truth is we have no idea what happened to Liad.

He could be laid up hurt somewhere or dead?

If he comes back then we'll know, until then we can play the guessing game all day long.

It is safe to say though any future dealings with this account until such a time comes would be inadvisable.

It sucks any way you slice it.

thanks!
hero member
Activity: 644
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March 12, 2017, 10:40:21 PM
#52
I haven't heard confirmation for this, but did everyone receive the same tracking number as the one above that was on my package?  

That's what he gave me and two others that spoke to me in PMs.

Thanks for the confirmation, I had that impression but wasn't sure. 

It's now clear that 3 people were given my tracking number while I did not receive it and we're awaiting Liad to clear this up.

Probably not gonig to happen any time soon.

If he was hacked then he would have definitely noticed now and logged back on and apologise and sort something out with the people involved. Obviously he is not going to do that any time soon, since he was last logged in at around a week ago.

The loan of around $50 he took from me is still yet to be repaid.

There is really a small chance that the people that purchased from him will see their PMs or bitcoins arrive.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1072
March 11, 2017, 10:29:32 PM
#51
I haven't heard confirmation for this, but did everyone receive the same tracking number as the one above that was on my package?  

That's what he gave me and two others that spoke to me in PMs.

Thanks for the confirmation, I had that impression but wasn't sure. 

It's now clear that 3 people were given my tracking number while I did not receive it and we're awaiting Liad to clear this up.
sr. member
Activity: 285
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March 11, 2017, 10:23:24 PM
#50
I haven't heard confirmation for this, but did everyone receive the same tracking number as the one above that was on my package?  

That's what he gave me and two others that spoke to me in PMs.
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1072
March 11, 2017, 10:03:48 PM
#49
i sent 900$ to him

and yeah he give me track id RR13XXXXXX8IL

Surprisingly I received my silver coins today, tracking number on my package was RR134030018IL.  Smiley

I still haven't heard back from Liad but I hope everyone else gets their items/refunds and he can return to give us a status update.

I haven't heard confirmation for this, but did everyone receive the same tracking number as the one above that was on my package?  
hero member
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March 08, 2017, 08:48:55 PM
#48
Yes, everyone check in that might have lost money if you get your stuff.
legendary
Activity: 2746
Merit: 1181
March 08, 2017, 08:44:12 PM
#47
i sent 900$ to him

and yeah he give me track id RR13XXXXXX8IL

Surprisingly I received my silver coins today, tracking number on my package was RR134030018IL.  Smiley

I still haven't heard back from Liad but I hope everyone else gets their items/refunds and he can return to give us a status update.

maybe he sent those a month before his account was compromised?
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1072
March 08, 2017, 06:26:36 PM
#46
i sent 900$ to him

and yeah he give me track id RR13XXXXXX8IL

Surprisingly I received my silver coins today, tracking number on my package was RR134030018IL.  Smiley

I still haven't heard back from Liad but I hope everyone else gets their items/refunds and he can return to give us a status update.
sr. member
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March 08, 2017, 12:43:53 PM
#45
i sent 900$ to him

and yeah he give me track id RR13XXXXXX8IL
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1072
March 08, 2017, 12:20:05 PM
#44
I hope they are alright since we haven't heard from them (in good health), has anyone had any contact with them since their disappearance outside of the forum?
sr. member
Activity: 285
Merit: 262
March 08, 2017, 08:52:04 AM
#43
That said, everything combined is a bit concerning, my concern being that we've perhaps all been given the same tracking number.  I'd like to propose that we compare tracking numbers in a sort of trustless manner.  My tracking number plus a salt can hash to cbdf36cc56e4030a69e5d94cb133a022ec031a67abdc838fcd50dbc346b0fe7c.  It is in the format RRXXXXXXXXXIL.  My tracking number is RR13XXXXXX8IL.  If your tracking number looks similar to this, reply or pm with at least 4 of the 6 missing digits and I will respond with the salt so that the hash may be verified. 

Another user has messaged me in private and provided information that makes me relatively certain that he was given the same tracking number as me.  The seed is 000000000000000001e24dd37e14e925ec55bc8a65c6f7855b88b206dc0f4977 and the message was hashed with SHA256 in the format RR13XXXXXX8IL-000000000000000001e24dd37e14e925ec55bc8a65c6f7855b88b206dc0f4977. 
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1072
March 07, 2017, 02:27:08 PM
#42
I noticed he was missing from the Slack on Saturday, I believe I talked to him there on Thursday before he was deactivated.

It'd be nice to have a response from Liad via PM or this thread but as more time goes on that seems increasingly unlikely.  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3038
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Meh.
March 07, 2017, 01:49:35 PM
#41
As of right now I regret to inform people that Liad.Services has most likely run off with the money.

He was part of a slack chat for collectors, he was active in there a week ago (not chatting, but his account was there), just checked it now and his account is gone, deactivated.

The other reason is that some of you who have dealt with him might be known users in this forum, but to me you are not as known in the collectibles sections. That may be the reason he refused to deal with me or buckrogers, since we are very active here.

From doing some rough math this may be about a $4000 run off. Which I guess law enforcement in Israel might not look over.

I know some users that have dealt with Liad might still have his shipping info and I'd urge them to use this for good, to contact the authorities in Israel and in the country of the affected people.

I am really sorry for everyone that might have been scammed by this user, it really sucks that it happens. Goes to show no one can be trusted these days..

I suggest we open a scam accusation and supply all necessary information and how to proceed in this matter there.
sr. member
Activity: 285
Merit: 262
March 07, 2017, 01:22:55 PM
#40
I purchased a little over 1 BTC worth of PMs from this thread.
We struck a deal on 13 Feb.
On 18 Feb I inquired about tracking and he responded that the post had requested a large shipping fee and he intended to split up the shipment.  I checked in to this on the Israeli Post website and came up with shipping of ~110 NIS or ~30 USD.
On 19 Feb I received tracking information.  This is the last contact I've had from Liad.Services, though I've not attempted to contact him since.
There are 5 entries for this tracking number at aftership.  These are 19, 21, and 22 Feb 2017 and describe the shipment as being sent to the US.  Interestingly, there are also two entries timemarked 19 and 22 Feb 2020, describing the shipment as sent from Rishon Letzion and sent to the US.

About the deal I made with him, I offered to buy him out on all of his generic silver.  I made an offer and he accepted.  Later in this thread, he claims to have more generic silver for sale.  Perhaps he found more silver, I'm not sure.  He did clarify that some silver would be in bars rather than rounds, which I doubt he'd care to mention if he was scamming.

The shipping situation is a little weird.  I can't know for sure if the Israeli Post website's shipping calculator is accurate or not, but if it is, $30 doesn't seem like a big deal for a ~$1200 sale.

I have received shipments from Israel previously and they tend to take a while.  Right now my shipment is at just a little over two weeks, so it's not concerning by itself quite yet.

That said, everything combined is a bit concerning, my concern being that we've perhaps all been given the same tracking number.  I'd like to propose that we compare tracking numbers in a sort of trustless manner.  My tracking number plus a salt can hash to cbdf36cc56e4030a69e5d94cb133a022ec031a67abdc838fcd50dbc346b0fe7c.  It is in the format RRXXXXXXXXXIL.  My tracking number is RR13XXXXXX8IL.  If your tracking number looks similar to this, reply or pm with at least 4 of the 6 missing digits and I will respond with the salt so that the hash may be verified. 
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 501
March 07, 2017, 12:45:19 PM
#39
Not sure why you think they have any insight to Liad's disappearance?

because they've both marked his account with "made multiple trades"

being as they are fairly trusted and have successfully dealt with the individual...they might have some insight we could go off of.
hero member
Activity: 2254
Merit: 960
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March 07, 2017, 09:18:59 AM
#38
I'd just like to point out when the user shipped me some silver it took exactly a month for me to receive it from the post mark date.

It could just be very slow

It could be suspicious at the least, maybe salty or jones could clear it up for us?

Hi,

Not sure why you think they have any insight to Liad's disappearance?

He was flaky on responding to me on 3 different potential sales where I finally gave up on trying to give him my BTC lol. (probably a good thing)

Shipping from anywhere in the world unless package is LOST or hung up in customs, should not take a month, unless it is coming by boat with a slow person walking it to your shipping address from the dock Smiley

Plus any tracking info would show that status.

If Liad's account was stolen or otherwise, why hasn't he made another account to say "Hey guys my account was compromised, dont deal with whoever, let me try to sort this out"?

Or reach out to another member via a dozen other channels?

At this point until any notice is provided, I think we can consider this an unsafe account to do business with.

Thanks!


Thats not true at least in my case with Liad. He sent it via the Israel Post? (or something like that) and the tracking on USPS.com says it is not available  for Israel and using the tracking number on the israel post website it only updated once to show that the package left the country.

The package I received wasnt opened by customs, so I dont understand how it could have gotten held up but it took a month which discouraged me from buying anything else from him.

I think it is insightful just because if you dont receive your package in two weeks does not mean that it was not sent.

I dont think a signed message of an address only a few months old does any good, maybe one from a year or so ago.

Maybe there is someone that as talked with liad on the phone, or can verify his identity with past conversations that are not saved anywhere
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
March 07, 2017, 08:51:19 AM
#37
Sigh most probably thing here is that while he was dealing with people @Gold/Silver was also tryng to sell the accoun if this really happen someone else should make the account at negative trust hence I see some " Huh? " wich I don't really understand what It means and have been around for a month already.
legendary
Activity: 2746
Merit: 1181
March 07, 2017, 01:56:31 AM
#36
I'd just like to point out when the user shipped me some silver it took exactly a month for me to receive it from the post mark date.

It could just be very slow

It could be suspicious at the least, maybe salty or jones could clear it up for us?

Hi,

Not sure why you think they have any insight to Liad's disappearance?

He was flaky on responding to me on 3 different potential sales where I finally gave up on trying to give him my BTC lol. (probably a good thing)

Shipping from anywhere in the world unless package is LOST or hung up in customs, should not take a month, unless it is coming by boat with a slow person walking it to your shipping address from the dock Smiley

Plus any tracking info would show that status.

If Liad's account was stolen or otherwise, why hasn't he made another account to say "Hey guys my account was compromised, dont deal with whoever, let me try to sort this out"?

Or reach out to another member via a dozen other channels?

At this point until any notice is provided, I think we can consider this an unsafe account to do business with.

Thanks!


Sums it up quite nicely.

ALso remember that with my loan request he has produced a legitimate signed message from an address used a few months ago, which means that the account was probably not compromised at all.

See here:

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Liad.Services, Bitcointalk, 3/4/2017, loan request
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
15KEdCMqiWRYhd3FxvXvtCYjfz92XtCyez
H3ufUkSZYlxSQxBK/Iv0RAe+24HSexEllieYDjQFS/Gd9ygoUi8H4JVbGN9dZEha7hBiIHmcoBxp8f9Sk0zAk3k=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It verifies out.

Actually the opposite, if his credentials were compromised he could sign you the decleration of independance Smiley
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 501
March 07, 2017, 01:53:40 AM
#35
I'd just like to point out when the user shipped me some silver it took exactly a month for me to receive it from the post mark date.

It could just be very slow

It could be suspicious at the least, maybe salty or jones could clear it up for us?

Hi,

Not sure why you think they have any insight to Liad's disappearance?

He was flaky on responding to me on 3 different potential sales where I finally gave up on trying to give him my BTC lol. (probably a good thing)

Shipping from anywhere in the world unless package is LOST or hung up in customs, should not take a month, unless it is coming by boat with a slow person walking it to your shipping address from the dock Smiley

Plus any tracking info would show that status.

If Liad's account was stolen or otherwise, why hasn't he made another account to say "Hey guys my account was compromised, dont deal with whoever, let me try to sort this out"?

Or reach out to another member via a dozen other channels?

At this point until any notice is provided, I think we can consider this an unsafe account to do business with.

Thanks!


Sums it up quite nicely.

ALso remember that with my loan request he has produced a legitimate signed message from an address used a few months ago, which means that the account was probably not compromised at all.

See here:

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Liad.Services, Bitcointalk, 3/4/2017, loan request
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
15KEdCMqiWRYhd3FxvXvtCYjfz92XtCyez
H3ufUkSZYlxSQxBK/Iv0RAe+24HSexEllieYDjQFS/Gd9ygoUi8H4JVbGN9dZEha7hBiIHmcoBxp8f9Sk0zAk3k=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

It verifies out.
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1001
March 07, 2017, 01:34:36 AM
#34
starting to glad i didn't even
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