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Topic: $35000 USD missing at BTC-e.com and they won't respond (RESOLVED) (Read 1874 times)

newbie
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UPDATE: BTC-e fixed the problem, the money is back in my account. The actions I took were:

Maybe you should change the title if your problem is fixed. Forum etiquette.  Tongue

Thanks, fixed. Sorry I'm new to the forum.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
I am not sure why any legit banks have got in on it. It seems like there is enough money and potential there to make it valuable. Maybe they are worried about the regulatory aspects of it.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
All these issues I keep seeing about shady payment processing reminds me of the early days of the poker boom when you never felt like your money was 100% safe and had to deal with a lot of small foreign companies. Hopefully this gets all sorted out with time as bigger players get in the crypto currency market.
newbie
Activity: 14
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I'm using coinbase and it seems pretty legit. I trust an SF based venture because I'm guessing it has a bunch of VC funding and won't be tempted to dip into user accounts.
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 510
I wish you get them $$$ back from those swindlers  Angry
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
holy shit, btc-e is run by russians? i would not trust them with a cent then. no offense though, but a lot of scams from that country.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
UPDATE: BTC-e fixed the problem, the money is back in my account. The actions I took were:

Maybe you should change the title if your problem is fixed. Forum etiquette.  Tongue
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
:-/ It is sad to read this. But who knows, maybe they run a ponzi scheme, maybe an accountant worker of them stole coins or maybe they are been blackmailed by russian hackers, who knows.... Glad to know some of you have your coins back  Smiley
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
UPDATE: BTC-e fixed the problem, the money is back in my account. The actions I took were:

1. Posting here
2. Posting/quoting & responding to "btc-e.com" on the official btc-e.com thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40889.1420
3. PMing btc-e.com on this forum
4. Emailing [email protected] and [email protected] instead of just [email protected] (which just generates an automated response for you to submit a ticket)
5. Tweeting @btcecom with the problem
6. Commenting on the btc-e.com news tab, both under the MetaTrader 4 and most recent news articles
7. Submitted a ticket in Russian instead of English

I have no idea what got through to them, or whether it was the cumulative effort, but it worked. I suggest all those with continuing problems do the same.
 
Cefalu - Will do. Those were super tentative rankings based on an hour of research. :-)
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
Cefalu - thanks for the info.
chitae - I just did a little research in the past hour or so and came up with a tentative ranking system for myself. Couple things: 1) I am based in the US so I ranked US exchanges the highest since I have legal recourse here, your ranking will likely be different depending where you live, 2) Several exchanges have addresses in two countries and I haven't had time to figure out where they are truly based yet, 3) I am interested in LTC/PPC and other alt coins so BTC only exchanges don't do me much good, and 4) I take volume into account because you really can't invest significant amounts without volume. With that in mind, here is a very tentative list from my perspective, any additional info/corrections would be appreciated:

1. Cryptsy: Florida USA, most crypto currencies, volume seems high enough (I think)
2. Crypto Street: New Jersey USA, many cryptos but low volume currently
3. Coin Market: California USA, most cryptos but low volume currently
4. LiteTree: BTC/LTC only, Atlanta USA, not much volume currently
5. Campbx: Atlanta USA, but BTC only, volume is good enough
6. Coinbase: California USA, BTC only, has had problems with liquidity recently
7. Bitstamp: BTC only, I've seen addresses for the UK and Slovenia, good volume
8. Crypto-Trade: most cryptos, good volume, address in Hong Kong but the company is registered in Belize?
9. Bifinex: Hong Kong

Others that are so far down the list I won't bother ranking them:

mcxNOW: New signups disabled, most trading halted (this can't be good)
BTC-e: most cryptos, I've seen addresses in Russia (at least one of which is fake) and Bulgaria, I currently have $35k missing
MtGox: Japan, no way to get USD out from the US, has had huge problems with withdrawals & responding to people in the past. I hear it's good for those outside the US though.
Vircurex: Beijing
There are quite a few other exchanges I've never heard of (including 6 in China that I wouldn't trust due to lack of legal recourse), and I'm guessing the others are relatively new and simply don't have the volume needed to invest more than small amounts, but I'll keep researching them.

traderCJ - I agree, the responsiveness of all the exchanges seem to go down when prices spike as they are overwhelmed with new accounts, funds, and support issues. I just hope this is the case vs. them trying to steal it. I will keep writing them in Russian - is there anywhere else I should post this to get their attention? On this forum or others? Or how about social media (fb, twitter, etc.)?

nice work gmoneyjive - one thing to add - Check those companies through the BBB, see if any complaints have been lodged.
I know some are in there, so you might want to re-rank ....
newbie
Activity: 7
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I lost 1 BTC last month on BTC-E and they didn't respond me yet.
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
I never had a problem getting a response when writing in english either. But that was before prices spiked and they likely got overwhelmed, and before a large chunk of money was at stake. Things are different now, for me anyway.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1000
the grandpa of cryptos
i never had problem with BTC-E and i write to them in english
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
All the guys that suggest op to send the money in Russian what do you mean?
Use google translator or something?  Tongue

Not send money - send messages in Russian. And yes, I used google translator.
hero member
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sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
All the guys that suggest op to send the money in Russian what do you mean?
Use google translator or something?  Tongue
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
Its not the first time someone report this.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-btc-e-scamming-you-351118

Many other people already has been "scammed".

I think you'll never see the money again.
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
Cefalu - thanks for the info.
chitae - I just did a little research in the past hour or so and came up with a tentative ranking system for myself. Couple things: 1) I am based in the US so I ranked US exchanges the highest since I have legal recourse here, your ranking will likely be different depending where you live, 2) Several exchanges have addresses in two countries and I haven't had time to figure out where they are truly based yet, 3) I am interested in LTC/PPC and other alt coins so BTC only exchanges don't do me much good, and 4) I take volume into account because you really can't invest significant amounts without volume. With that in mind, here is a very tentative list from my perspective, any additional info/corrections would be appreciated:

1. Cryptsy: Florida USA, most crypto currencies, volume seems high enough (I think)
2. Crypto Street: New Jersey USA, many cryptos but low volume currently
3. Coin Market: California USA, most cryptos but low volume currently
4. LiteTree: BTC/LTC only, Atlanta USA, not much volume currently
5. Campbx: Atlanta USA, but BTC only, volume is good enough
6. Coinbase: California USA, BTC only, has had problems with liquidity recently
7. Bitstamp: BTC only, I've seen addresses for the UK and Slovenia, good volume
8. Crypto-Trade: most cryptos, good volume, address in Hong Kong but the company is registered in Belize?
9. Bifinex: Hong Kong

Others that are so far down the list I won't bother ranking them:

mcxNOW: New signups disabled, most trading halted (this can't be good)
BTC-e: most cryptos, I've seen addresses in Russia (at least one of which is fake) and Bulgaria, I currently have $35k missing
MtGox: Japan, no way to get USD out from the US, has had huge problems with withdrawals & responding to people in the past. I hear it's good for those outside the US though.
Vircurex: Beijing
There are quite a few other exchanges I've never heard of (including 6 in China that I wouldn't trust due to lack of legal recourse), and I'm guessing the others are relatively new and simply don't have the volume needed to invest more than small amounts, but I'll keep researching them.

traderCJ - I agree, the responsiveness of all the exchanges seem to go down when prices spike as they are overwhelmed with new accounts, funds, and support issues. I just hope this is the case vs. them trying to steal it. I will keep writing them in Russian - is there anywhere else I should post this to get their attention? On this forum or others? Or how about social media (fb, twitter, etc.)?
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
It seems Btc-e is not very reliable. Sad
What is the most reliable exchange now?

Bitstamp, but even they can be pretty slow.  At least the support people speak English.  Roll Eyes  It really is crazy that more exchanges haven't opened up.  Just goes to show you how difficult the bridge between banks <---> internet really is.  The difficulty we are facing is precisely why Bitcoin is so disruptive.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
My hunch is the BTC-E are a combination of overworked, understaffed, and somewhat corrupt.  Do I think they might just bolt with everyone's money one day?  Nah, they'd be foolish to do that.  Too much money in the exchange business.  They'd be killing the golden goose.  However, I have heard that they do some pretty sketchy stuff like insist on bribes to host a particular alt-coin.  Anyway, you're on the right track.  Communicate with them in Russian and make a stink on the forums until they get it fixed.  $35k is a lot of trust to put in their hands.
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