or from dao etc they were all in their addresses?
Topic: 3641694 ETC has moved from the DAO (Read 1872 times)
He can't do anything before the 31 august i think
The attacker has transferred his funds from the child DAO. I think he is about to dump them because the price is that high.
https://steemit.com/ethereum/@soapsadu/3641694-etc-is-moved-from-the-child-dao
Is this the end of ETC?
https://steemit.com/ethereum/@soapsadu/3641694-etc-is-moved-from-the-child-dao
Is this the end of ETC?
That would be good. Hope he dumps, price crashes, and then recovers as no more looming danger over etc supporters about those hacked dao funds. the same for the white-hat dao funds.
He is not stupid and will not dump everything in one go. Instead he will let it bleed slowly and play with the price.
Pump even higher and god knows what else:)
Maybe he is mad enought to try destroy ETH with reply attacks and shit. Hopefully the hacker is only greedy:)
Pump even higher and god knows what else:)
Maybe he is mad enought to try destroy ETH with reply attacks and shit. Hopefully the hacker is only greedy:)
These 3.6 mil ETC are on the child DAO contract for now 0x10abb5efecdc09581f8b7cb95791fe2936790b4e
They can be withdrawn at least after 27+14=41(slightly less) days.
They can be withdrawn at least after 27+14=41(slightly less) days.
how long until he can actually sell it?
I think the probability of a harmful dump would be much higher from the original DTHs than the attacker. The attacker can't sell all that at once nor at a rapid pace without drawing attention from the exchange he is doing it on. It is also hard for him to sell OTC. This leaves selling small amounts over time to ensure he gets the most value out of it as well as avoid attention. Do you agree with my theory?
If I had a ton of coins I wanted to sell, that's what I'd do. But the question is, how much time do we have? Worst case scenario, the ETC price will crash and then he'll want to panic sell to get what he can. Best case scenario, the ETC price rises, in which case the market will absorb the small amounts he sells over time. I imagine the "hacker" is savvy enough to know how this all works, and will not risk destroying the ETC market. If he's smart, he'll devote his efforts to strengthening and bolstering ETC, as this safeguards his wealth.
I don't think he will sell his ETC at once . Is better for him to sell it with considerable amounts.
I think the probability of a harmful dump would be much higher from the original DTHs than the attacker. The attacker can't sell all that at once nor at a rapid pace without drawing attention from the exchange he is doing it on. It is also hard for him to sell OTC. This leaves selling small amounts over time to ensure he gets the most value out of it as well as avoid attention. Do you agree with my theory?
If I had a ton of coins I wanted to sell, that's what I'd do. But the question is, how much time do we have? Worst case scenario, the ETC price will crash and then he'll want to panic sell to get what he can. Best case scenario, the ETC price rises, in which case the market will absorb the small amounts he sells over time. I imagine the "hacker" is savvy enough to know how this all works, and will not risk destroying the ETC market. If he's smart, he'll devote his efforts to strengthening and bolstering ETC, as this safeguards his wealth.
I don't think he will sell his ETC at once . Is better for him to sell it with considerable amounts.
It would make a lot more sense for him to hold until they reached price parity, then dump it on both chains, which would negate the effect on either chain to some extent. But, there are rumors that the hacker is an insider, so I'm not sure the person will ever sell. Sometimes I suspect this was the desired outcome, and a way to undermine BTC.
Insider or not , he will eventually sell . WE are talking about millions of $ here.
All he has to do is to log into bitcointalk.org... so many analysts online.
I agree... if he wants to lose everything
All you guys have done is to help this "hacker" along his way. Telling him where the pitfalls are and how best to make profit from his pump and dump scheme
All he has to do is to log into bitcointalk.org... so many analysts online.
All he has to do is to log into bitcointalk.org... so many analysts online.
What a flawed logic, pereira, you're incredibly stupid.
Please explain (without the insults).
He speaks perfect sense to me.
I agree, it makes total sense what he says
I think the probability of a harmful dump would be much higher from the original DTHs than the attacker. The attacker can't sell all that at once nor at a rapid pace without drawing attention from the exchange he is doing it on. It is also hard for him to sell OTC. This leaves selling small amounts over time to ensure he gets the most value out of it as well as avoid attention. Do you agree with my theory?
If I had a ton of coins I wanted to sell, that's what I'd do. But the question is, how much time do we have? Worst case scenario, the ETC price will crash and then he'll want to panic sell to get what he can. Best case scenario, the ETC price rises, in which case the market will absorb the small amounts he sells over time. I imagine the "hacker" is savvy enough to know how this all works, and will not risk destroying the ETC market. If he's smart, he'll devote his efforts to strengthening and bolstering ETC, as this safeguards his wealth.
Please think. The whole point of ETC existing is that those funds were not considerated as stolen funds, but as a reward for the hacker by finding an exploit into a smart contract. Therefore it makes absolute 0 sense that Poloniex would allow ETC to then let funds being blacklisted.
so I can't deposit over $2000 value on poloniex without getting my account frozen, but they'll let shadily obtained coins from one of the most publicly known addresses in crypto and let it waltz away?
even if it's not technically theft they'd be dumb not to to reject them otherwise they'd be letting themselves in for a world of legal uncertainty. even if it ain't now, it might be in the future. they choose who they do or don't want to do business with.
they're not guardians of fungibility or the sanctity of any blockchain. they're private businesses coming under more scrutiny every day whose only loyalty is to themselves.
but no, they're not gonna be dumped in my opinion either.
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Exchanges can blacklist his address(es) for deposit. He can try to sell before they have implemented this "fix" in their software.
Exchanges can blacklist his address(es) for deposit. He can try to sell before they have implemented this "fix" in their software.
Very good point. Fungibility can be attacked in more than one way.
It would make a lot more sense for him to hold until they reached price parity, then dump it on both chains, which would negate the effect on either chain to some extent. But, there are rumors that the hacker is an insider, so I'm not sure the person will ever sell. Sometimes I suspect this was the desired outcome, and a way to undermine BTC.
He's a whale just like any other whale. Whales are not stupid when you realize you sit on holdings to retire for life you tend to make sure you get as much as possible for it.
It would make a lot more sense for him to hold until they reached price parity, then dump it on both chains, which would negate the effect on either chain to some extent. But, there are rumors that the hacker is an insider, so I'm not sure the person will ever sell. Sometimes I suspect this was the desired outcome, and a way to undermine BTC.
Rumour has it he's preparing for a MASSIVE simultaneous ETC criminal coin dump.
That might kill ETC in minutes.
Meanwhile I am debating with myself if I should sell my ETH.
I didn't sell my ETC, when the fork occurred I had the funds in an online wallet, not sure how to make the splitting.
I will probably hold until it reaches 12$ again.
Rumour has it he's preparing for a MASSIVE simultaneous ETC criminal coin dump.
That might kill ETC in minutes.
Meanwhile I am debating with myself if I should sell my ETH.
Rumour has it he's preparing for a MASSIVE simultaneous ETC criminal coin dump.
That might kill ETC in minutes.
Meanwhile I am debating with myself if I should sell my ETH.
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