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jr. member
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Welcome to 3DPass testnet rewards program!

https://3dpass.org/distribution.html#contribution

Given the fact, we need about a month, since the testnet starts, to be sure that all the essential bugs, revealed by the time, are fixed and the network behaves as it's suppose to. We call the community not to wait long and get involved right away from the testnet launch date.

Public DEX mechanizm of guarantee

We propose to use a Substrate-to-Substrate cross-chain bridge between the testnet and the mainnet to make participants able to exchange their test 3DPs for mainnet 3DPs (1 for 1), as long as the test 3DPs was mined before the mainnet genesis block time.

Due to the fact that those two networks are equal, there will be no problem to use Marketing budget issued in the testnet genesis block. So, we don't need to wait for mainnet to launch. Testnet 3DPs will be blocked by the smart-contract logic, as well as the equal amount of mainnet ones from the mainnet Marketing budget. Then equal amount of mainnet 3DPs will be available for its testnet owner.

This mechanism guarantees for testnet users the ability to hop their testnet 3DPs over to the mainnet.

Runway:

    2022 March 30th: testnet launch
    2022 April: testing around testnet, bugfix
    2022 May: mainnet launch
    2022 June: DEXes listing; FinexBox exchange listing (already have their proposal)

Full road map: https://3dpass.org/road_map.html

Rewards program

All the activities, covered by the program, will be paid only in 3DP Coins. No other currencies accepted. Estimation rate: 1 3DP = 0.00495 USD for all activities required resources to get involved. This rate was calculated assuming the amount of 3DPass team's funds around 500 000 USD we have invested by now. Team share is 10.1% = 101 000 000 3DP. We believe in principles of fair partnership and propose to contribute on the equal conditions.

For example, if you applied for the budget to solve the issue from the list down below, the rewards would be estimated assuming the certain amount of hours needed to and the average market price for the equal service. However, the final amount will be determined in negotiation. The most important questions will be resolved by means of voting process.

Activities to speed up 3DPass

Developers:

    3DPass NODE issues: https://github.com/3Dpass/3DP/issues
    Mobile wallet issues: https://github.com/3Dpass/threedpass/issues
    Things recognition issues: https://github.com/3Dpass/pass3d/issues
    Mining issues: https://github.com/3Dpass/pass3d/issues/6

NODE holders (validators):

    Validation service fee: https://github.com/3Dpass/3DP/wiki/Comissions-and-rewards#validation-service-fee

Miners:

    Mining rules: https://github.com/3Dpass/3DP/wiki/3DP-Coin-mining-rules
    Mining rewards: https://github.com/3Dpass/3DP/wiki/Comissions-and-rewards#mining-rewards

Marketing activities:

    Local translation
    PR
    Articles
    Social Media, etc.

Marketplaces, Games, DEXes, E-commerce, Jewelry, and other projects:

    3DPass HASH ID feature integration, 3DPass blockchain integration

Early investors

At this early stage we are interested only in partners who will add essential value to 3DPass throughout at least upcoming 3 years making their projects around the platform. Feel free to make your suggestions and apply some projects to participate in 3DP 6% private sale.

Join Discord to apply: https://discord.gg/u24WkXcwug
jr. member
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Hello!

We decided not to do IDO. Given the fact that we managed to implement 3D object recognition algorithm into Substrate and build the NODE and that we are going to launch testnet in a month, it doesn't make sense. Moreover, we believe, it helps to make the "runway" even more transparent.

https://3dpass.org/news.html
 


jr. member
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jr. member
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We're being asked a lot about how to contribute. And we're expecting the marketing budget to be issued in genesis as well.
Now, we suggest to consider some lines below for projects, features and activities, we think, might bring value to the community. After the discussion we're going to establish the community governed grant system encouraging people to contribute being paid 3DP coins for that.

Feel free to make your suggestions and proposals here and via discord: https://discord.gg/u24WkXcwug

Features for consider:

  • 3D scanner for mobile wallet (something like qlone.pro)
  • New recognition algorithms implementation: fingerprint, face recognition, things recognition
  • Smart Crypto Vault for assets, which allows to store in safe on the blockchain some expensive digital models. It works along with physical smart vault the real assets to be stored in. Opens by means of leveraging 3Pass wallet keys. As blockchain virtual vault got decrypted, real vault opens.
  • Add 3DP Coin to DEXes over a bridge
  • GPU miner development
  • Other integrations

Application projects and activities:

  • Things marketplaces and dApps based on 3DPass network
  • Identification and banking services for minting backed tokens (e.x. Carats backed by a diamond)
  • Gaming and Metaverse projects providing items for players they could use within different games/blockchain platforms
  • Gaming and Metaverse projects providing limited supply of 3D items for players they can own, buy/sell, etc.
  • Real things tokenization e-commerce projects which need the identity to assign for commodities
  • Recoverable keys implementation for cryptocurrency wallets. Generating and recovery process is based on 3D things recognition
jr. member
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Some development updates:

Our development team managed to make pass3d recognition tool compatible to Substrate, which allows now to build 3dPass Node that able to:
  • recognize 3D object shape (create Hash ID and validate)
  • store the objects and its hashes in IPFS

New compatible tool for wasm: https://github.com/3Dpass/p3d

After some tests we're starting to implement the network consensus rules and launch testnet.

I'm just trying to build the Node now, cloning from here: https://github.com/3Dpass/3DP

I'm using this command to build:
Code:
cargo run --release -- --dev

I've got this:
Code:
error: failed to get  frame-benchmarking as a dependency of package node-template v4.0.0-dev


Fixed.
Try again and make sure that you have configured Rust properly: https://github.com/3Dpass/3DP/blob/dev/docs/rust-setup.md

The project depends on Rust nightly, so follow the instructions above.

Then:
Code:
cargo run --release -- --dev --tmp

legendary
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Some development updates:

Our development team managed to make pass3d recognition tool compatible to Substrate, which allows now to build 3dPass Node that able to:
  • recognize 3D object shape (create Hash ID and validate)
  • store the objects and its hashes in IPFS

New compatible tool for wasm: https://github.com/3Dpass/p3d

After some tests we're starting to implement the network consensus rules and launch testnet.

I'm just trying to build the Node now, cloning from here: https://github.com/3Dpass/3DP

I'm using this command to build:
Code:
cargo run --release -- --dev

I've got this:
Code:
error: failed to get  frame-benchmarking as a dependency of package node-template v4.0.0-dev




jr. member
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Learn some more detail about what's the difference between 3DPass stable identity, called HASH ID, and conventional NFT (for example, ones being issued on Ethereum)

https://youtu.be/zbuDLB_NMOI
jr. member
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Some development updates:

Our development team managed to make pass3d recognition tool compatible to Substrate, which allows now to build 3dPass Node that able to:
  • recognize 3D object shape (create Hash ID and validate)
  • store the objects and its hashes in IPFS

New compatible tool for wasm: https://github.com/3Dpass/p3d

After some tests we're starting to implement the network consensus rules and launch testnet.
jr. member
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This is the same as NFT but the name is different. U pay money to the house to obtain 3D pass tokens. Then each creation of NFT will cost u some tokens. Yeap but how about u shut ur talker now. Just stop doing what u are doing and give people real opportunity to make money. Create off the counter trading platform which grants money to signers.

1. The difference is 3D shape recognition algorithm implemented. If you're creating a NFT on Ethereum, the only option you've got is to sign a file not processing anything inside of it. However, something what is inside represents real value (3D shape of a sculpture, for example), not just the picture of it, which might be many.

Can you see the difference between one picture grabbed from the object, then just signed by signature, and the original object shape processing and recognition?

Classic NFT - you can identify a file by signature (one object - many files)
3DPass HASH ID - you can identify a 3D object, its distinctive properties (one object - one HASH ID). It doesn't matter how many times you're scanning the object, the hash will remain the same.

2. I agree, we should create real opportunities for people to make money with 3DPass platform:
- Create decentralized marketplaces and trading platforms with real and virtual identifiable assets involved
- Create dApps and useful smart-contracts leveraging this kind of NFTs and backed currencies (Ethereum smart-contracts are not tethered to anything real)
- Create 3D things providers for gaming, metaverse and AR
- Mining 3DP etc.

And all of this we expect to make together with the community. 3DPass is a new instrument, new platform like Ethereum, but the smart-contracts are useful because of the recognition algo providing "one object - one HASH ID" relationship with the world.


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This is the same as NFT but the name is different. U pay money to the house to obtain 3D pass tokens. Then each creation of NFT will cost u some tokens. Yeap but how about u shut ur talker now. Just stop doing what u are doing and give people real opportunity to make money. Create off the counter trading platform which grants money to signers.
jr. member
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It would be interesting to see a video of this concept in action.


Check out 3DPass short video we've just made. It's a sketch, actually, just for now, to explain better what is 3DPass about: https://3dpass.org/assets/img/3dpass_concept.mp4

Hope, it's helpful.
Looking forward to your feedback.



Am I right, it works for virtual 3D models coming down into real either?
I mean, you don't necessarily need a real thing.. For example, game items, or even some stuff like real estate or vehicles, emerged as projects in your head or in the computer but then have been implemented in reality.

How are you dealing with the problem if the object lost it's shape, got deformed?


Yes, generally, it does work both ways. But we should look into it carefully, since modern technologies are still limited. 

In order to follow an object shape changes it's expected 3DPass recognition processing to be run before and after the damage. And then those two objects, linked between each other, should be saved in the blockchain.

Tokenization of shape changes (in dynamic): https://3dpass.org/features.html#tokenization_of_real_objects

However, it's required the Proof of Existence of the incident, as well.

Thanks. Do you see any solution to solve the Proof of Existence issue? How your platform would help to define ownership of the objects? If someone obtained an object claiming "It's mine.." but not long after another person popped up saying the same thing. It doesn't have anything to do with mining, in the case I am trying to figure it out as a user who wants to create their asset and mint backed currency.

Well, regarding to Proof of Existence of the incident, I see two kinds of occasions:
- happen in real
- happen in virtual

From the first sight, it doesn't look very difficult to take a shot of an event in virtual (when you're in game playing, on video call or virtual meeting, etc). However, getting the proof of some real event might be the way complicated though.

Anyway, as a solution 3DPass is using IPFS storage and there is going to be PoE Substrate tools implemented as well, so that any smart-contract and dApp could leverage.

Regarding to property rights definition, I think, a creator could use multi-object option (https://3dpass.org/features.html#multi_object_options) to put some their biometric data into the hash (ex fingerprint).

Then there is a couple options to proceed:
- they might add a record, with HASH ID include, to the official registry like https://www.wipo.int Unfortunately, they closed their blockchain project recently. Now, any smart-contract could check the record by means of API request and to compare the hash id stored in the blockchain to the one on the registry.

- In any case, they might be satisfied by using just 3DPass multi-hash, since it's much more secure then leveraging Ethereum signature the way lots of people seem to be doing it these days. For example, if just one small dot had been put on the object's surface, the NFT Ethereum hash would've changed completely. So, there is a copy & paste problem, isn't it? 3Dpass allows to follow the rights without that kind of problem because of the recognition algorithm.

Wouldn't it be enough to put a Copyright sign along with the first time publish?

It definitely would, if you didn't need any registry to add the record in.

So, in summary, if I created a new 3D model that was not published anywhere before, It would be enough to tokenize and publish it over 3DPass blockchain providing some kind of prevention from copy cats making. Is this correct?
Correct.
legendary
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It would be interesting to see a video of this concept in action.


Check out 3DPass short video we've just made. It's a sketch, actually, just for now, to explain better what is 3DPass about: https://3dpass.org/assets/img/3dpass_concept.mp4

Hope, it's helpful.
Looking forward to your feedback.



Am I right, it works for virtual 3D models coming down into real either?
I mean, you don't necessarily need a real thing.. For example, game items, or even some stuff like real estate or vehicles, emerged as projects in your head or in the computer but then have been implemented in reality.

How are you dealing with the problem if the object lost it's shape, got deformed?


Yes, generally, it does work both ways. But we should look into it carefully, since modern technologies are still limited. 

In order to follow an object shape changes it's expected 3DPass recognition processing to be run before and after the damage. And then those two objects, linked between each other, should be saved in the blockchain.

Tokenization of shape changes (in dynamic): https://3dpass.org/features.html#tokenization_of_real_objects

However, it's required the Proof of Existence of the incident, as well.

Thanks. Do you see any solution to solve the Proof of Existence issue? How your platform would help to define ownership of the objects? If someone obtained an object claiming "It's mine.." but not long after another person popped up saying the same thing. It doesn't have anything to do with mining, in the case I am trying to figure it out as a user who wants to create their asset and mint backed currency.

Well, regarding to Proof of Existence of the incident, I see two kinds of occasions:
- happen in real
- happen in virtual

From the first sight, it doesn't look very difficult to take a shot of an event in virtual (when you're in game playing, on video call or virtual meeting, etc). However, getting the proof of some real event might be the way complicated though.

Anyway, as a solution 3DPass is using IPFS storage and there is going to be PoE Substrate tools implemented as well, so that any smart-contract and dApp could leverage.

Regarding to property rights definition, I think, a creator could use multi-object option (https://3dpass.org/features.html#multi_object_options) to put some their biometric data into the hash (ex fingerprint).

Then there is a couple options to proceed:
- they might add a record, with HASH ID include, to the official registry like https://www.wipo.int Unfortunately, they closed their blockchain project recently. Now, any smart-contract could check the record by means of API request and to compare the hash id stored in the blockchain to the one on the registry.

- In any case, they might be satisfied by using just 3DPass multi-hash, since it's much more secure then leveraging Ethereum signature the way lots of people seem to be doing it these days. For example, if just one small dot had been put on the object's surface, the NFT Ethereum hash would've changed completely. So, there is a copy & paste problem, isn't it? 3Dpass allows to follow the rights without that kind of problem because of the recognition algorithm.

Wouldn't it be enough to put a Copyright sign along with the first time publish?

It definitely would, if you didn't need any registry to add the record in.

So, in summary, if I created a new 3D model that was not published anywhere before, It would be enough to tokenize and publish it over 3DPass blockchain providing some kind of prevention from copy cats making. Is this correct?
jr. member
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Telegram 3DPass official channel has been launched:
https://t.me/threedpass_updates

Some explanation business-case videos are coming soon.
jr. member
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It would be interesting to see a video of this concept in action.


Check out 3DPass short video we've just made. It's a sketch, actually, just for now, to explain better what is 3DPass about: https://3dpass.org/assets/img/3dpass_concept.mp4

Hope, it's helpful.
Looking forward to your feedback.



Am I right, it works for virtual 3D models coming down into real either?
I mean, you don't necessarily need a real thing.. For example, game items, or even some stuff like real estate or vehicles, emerged as projects in your head or in the computer but then have been implemented in reality.

How are you dealing with the problem if the object lost it's shape, got deformed?


Yes, generally, it does work both ways. But we should look into it carefully, since modern technologies are still limited. 

In order to follow an object shape changes it's expected 3DPass recognition processing to be run before and after the damage. And then those two objects, linked between each other, should be saved in the blockchain.

Tokenization of shape changes (in dynamic): https://3dpass.org/features.html#tokenization_of_real_objects

However, it's required the Proof of Existence of the incident, as well.

Thanks. Do you see any solution to solve the Proof of Existence issue? How your platform would help to define ownership of the objects? If someone obtained an object claiming "It's mine.." but not long after another person popped up saying the same thing. It doesn't have anything to do with mining, in the case I am trying to figure it out as a user who wants to create their asset and mint backed currency.

Well, regarding to Proof of Existence of the incident, I see two kinds of occasions:
- happen in real
- happen in virtual

From the first sight, it doesn't look very difficult to take a shot of an event in virtual (when you're in game playing, on video call or virtual meeting, etc). However, getting the proof of some real event might be the way complicated though.

Anyway, as a solution 3DPass is using IPFS storage and there is going to be PoE Substrate tools implemented as well, so that any smart-contract and dApp could leverage.

Regarding to property rights definition, I think, a creator could use multi-object option (https://3dpass.org/features.html#multi_object_options) to put some their biometric data into the hash (ex fingerprint).

Then there is a couple options to proceed:
- they might add a record, with HASH ID include, to the official registry like https://www.wipo.int Unfortunately, they closed their blockchain project recently. Now, any smart-contract could check the record by means of API request and to compare the hash id stored in the blockchain to the one on the registry.

- In any case, they might be satisfied by using just 3DPass multi-hash, since it's much more secure then leveraging Ethereum signature the way lots of people seem to be doing it these days. For example, if just one small dot had been put on the object's surface, the NFT Ethereum hash would've changed completely. So, there is a copy & paste problem, isn't it? 3Dpass allows to follow the rights without that kind of problem because of the recognition algorithm.

Wouldn't it be enough to put a Copyright sign along with the first time publish?

It definitely would, if you didn't need any registry to add the record in.
legendary
Activity: 1128
Merit: 1028
It would be interesting to see a video of this concept in action.


Check out 3DPass short video we've just made. It's a sketch, actually, just for now, to explain better what is 3DPass about: https://3dpass.org/assets/img/3dpass_concept.mp4

Hope, it's helpful.
Looking forward to your feedback.



Am I right, it works for virtual 3D models coming down into real either?
I mean, you don't necessarily need a real thing.. For example, game items, or even some stuff like real estate or vehicles, emerged as projects in your head or in the computer but then have been implemented in reality.

How are you dealing with the problem if the object lost it's shape, got deformed?


Yes, generally, it does work both ways. But we should look into it carefully, since modern technologies are still limited. 

In order to follow an object shape changes it's expected 3DPass recognition processing to be run before and after the damage. And then those two objects, linked between each other, should be saved in the blockchain.

Tokenization of shape changes (in dynamic): https://3dpass.org/features.html#tokenization_of_real_objects

However, it's required the Proof of Existence of the incident, as well.

Thanks. Do you see any solution to solve the Proof of Existence issue? How your platform would help to define ownership of the objects? If someone obtained an object claiming "It's mine.." but not long after another person popped up saying the same thing. It doesn't have anything to do with mining, in the case I am trying to figure it out as a user who wants to create their asset and mint backed currency.

Well, regarding to Proof of Existence of the incident, I see two kinds of occasions:
- happen in real
- happen in virtual

From the first sight, it doesn't look very difficult to take a shot of an event in virtual (when you're in game playing, on video call or virtual meeting, etc). However, getting the proof of some real event might be the way complicated though.

Anyway, as a solution 3DPass is using IPFS storage and there is going to be PoE Substrate tools implemented as well, so that any smart-contract and dApp could leverage.

Regarding to property rights definition, I think, a creator could use multi-object option (https://3dpass.org/features.html#multi_object_options) to put some their biometric data into the hash (ex fingerprint).

Then there is a couple options to proceed:
- they might add a record, with HASH ID include, to the official registry like https://www.wipo.int Unfortunately, they closed their blockchain project recently. Now, any smart-contract could check the record by means of API request and to compare the hash id stored in the blockchain to the one on the registry.

- In any case, they might be satisfied by using just 3DPass multi-hash, since it's much more secure then leveraging Ethereum signature the way lots of people seem to be doing it these days. For example, if just one small dot had been put on the object's surface, the NFT Ethereum hash would've changed completely. So, there is a copy & paste problem, isn't it? 3Dpass allows to follow the rights without that kind of problem because of the recognition algorithm.

Wouldn't it be enough to put a Copyright sign along with the first time publish?
jr. member
Activity: 159
Merit: 5
It would be interesting to see a video of this concept in action.


Check out 3DPass short video we've just made. It's a sketch, actually, just for now, to explain better what is 3DPass about: https://3dpass.org/assets/img/3dpass_concept.mp4

Hope, it's helpful.
Looking forward to your feedback.



Am I right, it works for virtual 3D models coming down into real either?
I mean, you don't necessarily need a real thing.. For example, game items, or even some stuff like real estate or vehicles, emerged as projects in your head or in the computer but then have been implemented in reality.

How are you dealing with the problem if the object lost it's shape, got deformed?


Yes, generally, it does work both ways. But we should look into it carefully, since modern technologies are still limited. 

In order to follow an object shape changes it's expected 3DPass recognition processing to be run before and after the damage. And then those two objects, linked between each other, should be saved in the blockchain.

Tokenization of shape changes (in dynamic): https://3dpass.org/features.html#tokenization_of_real_objects

However, it's required the Proof of Existence of the incident, as well.

Thanks. Do you see any solution to solve the Proof of Existence issue? How your platform would help to define ownership of the objects? If someone obtained an object claiming "It's mine.." but not long after another person popped up saying the same thing. It doesn't have anything to do with mining, in the case I am trying to figure it out as a user who wants to create their asset and mint backed currency.

Well, regarding to Proof of Existence of the incident, I see two kinds of occasions:
- happen in real
- happen in virtual

From the first sight, it doesn't look very difficult to take a shot of an event in virtual (when you're in game playing, on video call or virtual meeting, etc). However, getting the proof of some real event might be the way complicated though.

Anyway, as a solution 3DPass is using IPFS storage and there is going to be PoE Substrate tools implemented as well, so that any smart-contract and dApp could leverage.

Regarding to property rights definition, I think, a creator could use multi-object option (https://3dpass.org/features.html#multi_object_options) to put some their biometric data into the hash (ex fingerprint).

Then there is a couple options to proceed:
- they might add a record, with HASH ID include, to the official registry like https://www.wipo.int Unfortunately, they closed their blockchain project recently. Now, any smart-contract could check the record by means of API request and to compare the hash id stored in the blockchain to the one on the registry.

- In any case, they might be satisfied by using just 3DPass multi-hash, since it's much more secure then leveraging Ethereum signature the way lots of people seem to be doing it these days. For example, if just one small dot had been put on the object's surface, the NFT Ethereum hash would've changed completely. So, there is a copy & paste problem, isn't it? 3Dpass allows to follow the rights without that kind of problem because of the recognition algorithm.
legendary
Activity: 1128
Merit: 1028
It would be interesting to see a video of this concept in action.


Check out 3DPass short video we've just made. It's a sketch, actually, just for now, to explain better what is 3DPass about: https://3dpass.org/assets/img/3dpass_concept.mp4

Hope, it's helpful.
Looking forward to your feedback.



Am I right, it works for virtual 3D models coming down into real either?
I mean, you don't necessarily need a real thing.. For example, game items, or even some stuff like real estate or vehicles, emerged as projects in your head or in the computer but then have been implemented in reality.

How are you dealing with the problem if the object lost it's shape, got deformed?


Yes, generally, it does work both ways. But we should look into it carefully, since modern technologies are still limited. 

In order to follow an object shape changes it's expected 3DPass recognition processing to be run before and after the damage. And then those two objects, linked between each other, should be saved in the blockchain.

Tokenization of shape changes (in dynamic): https://3dpass.org/features.html#tokenization_of_real_objects

However, it's required the Proof of Existence of the incident, as well.

Thanks. Do you see any solution to solve the Proof of Existence issue? How your platform would help to define ownership of the objects? If someone obtained an object claiming "It's mine.." but not long after another person popped up saying the same thing. It doesn't have anything to do with mining, in the case I am trying to figure it out as a user who wants to create their asset and mint backed currency.
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Ok, so I read pages on the 3DPass.org site and notice you can scan an object with a smartphone or special lab equipment. Will the chain therefore move and a block solved if someone scans a 3D object with their smartphone and submit the hash? What would happen if no-one scans an object?

First of all, not only physical 3D objects might be hashed, but also virtual ones which have basically been generated. So, we have one more crucial option:
1. scan an object with a smartphone or special lab equipment and then get them hashed by means of processing
2. generate or grab somewhere a 3D model and then get it hashed as well. And, yes, it's also possible to print the object by 3D printer or just produce it in some other way.

These two options have the only one difference which is seed data extraction method. If you're using a 3D model just generated, you don't need to scan the object physically, although the outcome will be the same: .stl or .obj file. These kinds of standard files is leveraged by 3DPass.

Talking about mining, miners could use 3D models generator in hope of finding a specific-shaped object the hash id of which would include zeros at the beginning. It's required to get rewarded from the network. Mining is expected to last about 60 years. And it serves mainly as a distribution mechanism. At the very beginning it will be possible to use smartphones to create the right hash, but it's the way less efficient then objects generation.

We're considering an alternative paid option to create a new block with. Especially, it would make sense after the mining finished.  E.x. someone has published their object and its hash id for the reason of utilization (to make deals with, mint currency, etc). What they have to do is to pay commission in 3DP for the validation service providing by nodes. If the validation is successful the new block is going to be created. It's expected people will use the network after 60 years being on the market. How much the commission fee will cost is up to the nodes to decide.

So, we hope the network will never come across with the lack of objects to create a new block out of.


Thanks. Regarding the highlighted parts: Solving a block therefore means that if you find a 3D model with zeros in the beginning, that means you can submit your block and if validated you are the successful miner and gets rewarded.

That is correct

You have to keep on scanning until you find such a hash?


It's correct as well. You have to keep on picking up (or generating) different-shaped objects and its processing until you find such a hash. That's what the mining tool is suppose to do.

Then when submitting your block you also need to submit the 3D model as well as its hash for validation? Just wondering about the size of the 3D model when broadcast to the network.

That's correct. And on top of it, you need to submit an additional security token ensuring the particular recognition algorithm was used. This token represent some randomly chosen intermediate calculation results that no one can predict but it might be verified easily while the next processing. So that no one could "copy and paste" hash id for validation. And the only way to check the hash for validators is to process the object again.

We're thinking about size limitation for mining, but it's needed some experiments to perform.

The difficulty (to prevent cheating by re-processing past blocks to get to the longest chain) is therefore because of the difficulty and effort in finding a 3D model with a hash with the zeros in the front. Is this correct?

Yes, this is correct. With one note - as it was written above, in order finally to rule out cheating, the additional security token has to be used as well.
legendary
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Ok, so I read pages on the 3DPass.org site and notice you can scan an object with a smartphone or special lab equipment. Will the chain therefore move and a block solved if someone scans a 3D object with their smartphone and submit the hash? What would happen if no-one scans an object?

First of all, not only physical 3D objects might be hashed, but also virtual ones which have basically been generated. So, we have one more crucial option:
1. scan an object with a smartphone or special lab equipment and then get them hashed by means of processing
2. generate or grab somewhere a 3D model and then get it hashed as well. And, yes, it's also possible to print the object by 3D printer or just produce it in some other way.

These two options have the only one difference which is seed data extraction method. If you're using a 3D model just generated, you don't need to scan the object physically, although the outcome will be the same: .stl or .obj file. These kinds of standard files is leveraged by 3DPass.

Talking about mining, miners could use 3D models generator in hope of finding a specific-shaped object the hash id of which would include zeros at the beginning. It's required to get rewarded from the network. Mining is expected to last about 60 years. And it serves mainly as a distribution mechanism. At the very beginning it will be possible to use smartphones to create the right hash, but it's the way less efficient then objects generation.

We're considering an alternative paid option to create a new block with. Especially, it would make sense after the mining finished.  E.x. someone has published their object and its hash id for the reason of utilization (to make deals with, mint currency, etc). What they have to do is to pay commission in 3DP for the validation service providing by nodes. If the validation is successful the new block is going to be created. It's expected people will use the network after 60 years being on the market. How much the commission fee will cost is up to the nodes to decide.

So, we hope the network will never come across with the lack of objects to create a new block out of.


Thanks. Regarding the highlighted parts: Solving a block therefore means that if you find a 3D model with zeros in the beginning, that means you can submit your block and if validated you are the successful miner and gets rewarded. You have to keep on scanning until you find such a hash? Then when submitting your block you also need to submit the 3D model as well as its hash for validation? Just wondering about the size of the 3D model when broadcast to the network. The difficulty (to prevent cheating by re-processing past blocks to get to the longest chain) is therefore because of the difficulty and effort in finding a 3D model with a hash with the zeros in the front. Is this correct?
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