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August 27, 2015, 07:24:14 PM
#23
The thing is i dont get how a WW would developed in this day an age. If the countries start dropping bombs no one will be left to enjoy earth's resources. It only takes a country to start a nuclear blast and we are all fucked.
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August 27, 2015, 03:21:10 PM
#22
Assuming China can still contact the western world from beneath the permanent concrete smog across the land, the dead environment, the shattered culture, and the layers of policing across every human synapse.
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August 27, 2015, 03:02:37 PM
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No, he is not a billionaire, but of course he made billions of dollars profit. This is a well known fact and he was a very well known fund manager.

He has placed many bets and he was running a multi billion dollar fund, he advised the IMF, banks, prime ministers, etc. More importantly his clients has been making millions and billions based on his advices for example in the 2007 crisis. There are records with names and events about it. Watch the documentary about him (The Forecaster) and you can hear there how people has been making money since 1980 using his service.

The problem is that not easy to translate Armstrong's predictions to stock exchange trades. Yes, sometimes he say a specific day like in 1987 and then you can short everything, but most of the times he predict trends (like in October 2015 will be the start of confidence decline or he said well before that in 1997 will be the Russian crisis), and even if the trend kicks off according to his prediction there could be lots of volatility on the market, and ups and downs until the events is fully unfold, so it doesn't mean inexpedience traders can make money based on his predictions.




I will make sure to watch the documentary!

I've just read about his October prediction and I believe that there is a possibility for that. I don't know why he doesn't talk about China though.

I get that if Europe starts collapsing and Japan follows them, the money can start flowing to USA, but where is China in the picture?

He talks a lot about China, and so far everything is quite accurate what he said about China. Again, he is mainly talking about macro economic trends and not daily events. And he doesn't say that on the 1st October the Dow Jones will be down 1000 points, but he predicts trends. He says the confidence will be start deteriorating so much from October and that will be the start of the next bigger than ever crisis. This combined with the sovereign debt problem, Euro issues, immigration issues, etc. will change everything. The money will flow from China as well to the US, there is no other place for the big money than the US bond and then the equity market. But after (2020) the money goes back to China and from that China will be the leader, and that will be the decline of western societies and economics.
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August 27, 2015, 02:51:18 PM
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Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).



Totalitarian Governments haven't been able to stop the internet.  They can't even stop peer-to-peer file sharing.  What makes you think they will stop peer-to-peer money that doesn't need them for anything?

Well it's very simple and quite clear: since digital currency is suitable to hide tax as well as store value, once the money start flowing from the bond and equity markets to private assets  (during the next crisis) then governments will immediately need to control digital currencies. That's how governments work, that's how they work in the 21st century and most importantly that's how they work when there is a crisis.

Of course they can stop peer to peer file sharing any time they want, and they will stop it once the crisis kick off and the corrupt, paranoid governments want to control everything. They will prosecute everyone who don't comply with laws and regulations and use applications that challenge the governments' total control. It's unfair, unjust and shouldn't be like that, but that will be the only way the governments can manage the crisis.

It is a permanent fight between us - who cherish  technological, economic and political freedom - and the government, but in this fight in short term the government win. We use I2P, tor, lately ham radio based mesh network to form a dark net and all kind these innovative systems, but the government can shut them down any time they want. You should know that if you know how the internet and more importantly how government works. ISPs and citizens will be under 100% state control, and once it will be crime to use these applications then the government will enforce those laws.
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August 27, 2015, 02:48:58 PM
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No, he is not a billionaire, but of course he made billions of dollars profit. This is a well known fact and he was a very well known fund manager.

He has placed many bets and he was running a multi billion dollar fund, he advised the IMF, banks, prime ministers, etc. More importantly his clients has been making millions and billions based on his advices for example in the 2007 crisis. There are records with names and events about it. Watch the documentary about him (The Forecaster) and you can hear there how people has been making money since 1980 using his service.

The problem is that not easy to translate Armstrong's predictions to stock exchange trades. Yes, sometimes he say a specific day like in 1987 and then you can short everything, but most of the times he predict trends (like in October 2015 will be the start of confidence decline or he said well before that in 1997 will be the Russian crisis), and even if the trend kicks off according to his prediction there could be lots of volatility on the market, and ups and downs until the events is fully unfold, so it doesn't mean inexpedience traders can make money based on his predictions.




I will make sure to watch the documentary!

I've just read about his October prediction and I believe that there is a possibility for that. I don't know why he doesn't talk about China though.

I get that if Europe starts collapsing and Japan follows them, the money can start flowing to USA, but where is China in the picture?
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August 27, 2015, 02:32:55 PM
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Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).



Are you sure about Armstrong? If it's true, he could make BILLIONS of dollars profit.

I don't thing he is a billionaire, so why didn't he place his bet in the market and made a lot of money by predicting all these crisis?



he has said his computer model system has taken 100's of millions of $ to put together.  Whether he is counting his time/labor into that equation I don't know, but still I would think that would be minor to 100's of millions of $.  So maybe he is not a billionaire, but based on his acute market knowledge & forecasting, you gotta think he's worth a pretty penny.

I think what he said was that today would cost 100 million $ to put together such data set what he has as the result of his 30 days of research and analysing historical data. But yes, I agree what you said and that his  company will be very valuable once he release his Socrates system/service.
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August 27, 2015, 02:29:56 PM
#17
Martin Armstrong sure has a lot of nuthuggers here  Grin

If would be a few in Hungary as well then your place would be in a lot better shape.

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August 27, 2015, 02:28:03 PM
#16
Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).



Are you sure about Armstrong? If it's true, he could make BILLIONS of dollars profit.

I don't thing he is a billionaire, so why didn't he place his bet in the market and made a lot of money by predicting all these crisis?



No, he is not a billionaire, but of course he made billions of dollars profit. This is a well known fact and he was a very well known fund manager.

He has placed many bets and he was running a multi billion dollar fund, he advised the IMF, banks, prime ministers, etc. More importantly his clients has been making millions and billions based on his advices for example in the 2007 crisis. There are records with names and events about it. Watch the documentary about him (The Forecaster) and you can hear there how people has been making money since 1980 using his service.

The problem is that not easy to translate Armstrong's predictions to stock exchange trades. Yes, sometimes he say a specific day like in 1987 and then you can short everything, but most of the times he predict trends (like in October 2015 will be the start of confidence decline or he said well before that in 1997 will be the Russian crisis), and even if the trend kicks off according to his prediction there could be lots of volatility on the market, and ups and downs until the events is fully unfold, so it doesn't mean inexperienced traders can make money based on his predictions.


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August 27, 2015, 02:22:40 PM
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Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).



Are you sure about Armstrong? If it's true, he could make BILLIONS of dollars profit.

I don't thing he is a billionaire, so why didn't he place his bet in the market and made a lot of money by predicting all these crisis?



he has said his computer model system has taken 100's of millions of $ to put together.  Whether he is counting his time/labor into that equation I don't know, but still I would think that would be minor to 100's of millions of $.  So maybe he is not a billionaire, but based on his acute market knowledge & forecasting, you gotta think he's worth a pretty penny.
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August 27, 2015, 01:24:09 PM
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Martin Armstrong sure has a lot of nuthuggers here  Grin
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August 27, 2015, 12:34:06 PM
#13
Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).



Are you sure about Armstrong? If it's true, he could make BILLIONS of dollars profit.

I don't thing he is a billionaire, so why didn't he place his bet in the market and made a lot of money by predicting all these crisis?

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August 27, 2015, 11:35:37 AM
#12
Well I hope you are wrong, but the thing is the economy is on a dead end. If the interest rates go to 0%, the investors will move all of their money to another place = game over. And at the same time if the interest rates are kept those who are under debt will never be able to pay which gives you a worldwide crash, again game over. So as you can see, there is no real solution. The good news tho, is alternative system like Bitcoin would benefit a lot from this, so would in theory gold and silver. I just hope it doesn't take WW3 for that to happen. What would be the point of being rich in a destroyed world anyway.
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August 27, 2015, 11:24:57 AM
#11
Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).



Totalitarian Governments haven't been able to stop the internet.  They can't even stop peer-to-peer file sharing.  What makes you think they will stop peer-to-peer money that doesn't need them for anything?
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August 26, 2015, 06:24:47 PM
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Martin Armstrong predicted so far all major economic events and crisis. The 1987 the Black Monday with day accuracy (years before the crisis) and then the 1989 all time high stock recovery, the 1999 Russian crisis, the 2000 stock bubble, the 2007 crisis, this year Swiss Franc crisis, all of them. According to Armstrong the big crisis that we have never seen before will start in two months time October 2015.  The issues you have highlighted in the OP very much contribute to this super-crisis which will bring riotings to the streets and most likely as you said war as well.

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com

(I have just watched the movie about Armstrong, one of the best 25 British Pound I have ever spent)

The bad news for us in here that Bitcoin will not profit from the crisis on the long term. In short term (and once it crashed) the price will go up dramatically, but in long term the government and law enforcement will not allow people hide tax money using Bitcoin. It's annoying, but that's the reality, that's how totalitarian governments operate ( totalitarianism from financial governing viewpoint).

Pab
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August 26, 2015, 05:04:24 PM
#9
War3,could be,water crisis and food crisis,now in my country is unnormous hot no rain from month,rivers are dry  and will be more dry days  .Disastear.Same is in all South Spain.That is serious becous there are estimates that next year could be the same.Imagine  if will be no monsun rain in Asia,same disastear in China,Imagine time what water price will meet oil price,lets say 10$ per barrel

All that economic chaos it is change,change from industrial era to technology era.That world cant live like it is living now,corporations ,debt economy is dead,change has to come now change is coming through destroying,it is better if it is goes on markets instead on streets
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August 26, 2015, 04:58:45 PM
#8
OMG!

Such drama, over nothing.
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August 26, 2015, 04:55:47 PM
#7
WHole worth of bitcoin market is very very very very very very very very LOw .

The total market value does not answer a million hungry people for 1 month ...........
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August 26, 2015, 04:53:46 PM
#6
They love war at the expense of us, we are expendable.
Why do we put up with these greedy mofos?

In a nutshell, that is human history in its entirety. Most intelligent people I know acknowledge these realities. But middle classers are fighting to cling onto their disappearing social status. And when most people are in poverty and still struggling to survive, it's a bit tough to spend energy fighting the man. To make things more complex, those that do theorize on how to end this bondage have great disagreement as to the solutions to the current nation-state-capitalist system. Such is life. Undecided
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August 26, 2015, 04:33:32 PM
#5
World War II ended the "depression." The same Bankers who in the early 1930's had no loans for peacetime houses, food and clothing, suddenly had unlimited billions to lend for army barracks, K-rations and uniforms.

A nation that in 1934 could not produce food for sale, suddenly could produce bombs to send free to Germany and Japan!

Some politicians were blamed for it and others took credit for ending it. The truth is the lack of money (caused by Bankers) brought on the depression, and adequate money ended it. The people were never told that simple truth and in this article we will endeavor to show how these same bankers who control our money and credit have used their control to plunder America and place us in bondage.

No Money for Peace, but Plenty for War

I say the very same situation back then, is a mirror image of todays current markets crisis.

They love war at the expense of us, we are expendable.
Why do we put up with these greedy mofos?

Also read: Manipulating Stocks for Fun and Profit
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August 26, 2015, 04:19:47 PM
#4

I would say that such a situation would be crushing for bitcoin. In economic crisis, money flows to safety. Bitcoin is a newfangled and little-tested technology with a penny stock market cap. Why would money flow into bitcoin under these circumstances? Hopefully years (probably decades) into the future, bitcoin may be viewed as a more resilient store of value. But for institutional or average retail investors, why would they view it as such now?


Agreed. It's something you have a dabble in once you have all your other bases covered. As soon as everything else starts to look a little shaky it'll be the first thing to go.
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