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Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool - page 138. (Read 4382653 times)

newbie
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I am mining in Antpool

Payouts are consistant and very good.
newbie
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I have mined nonstop here since December,2013. This is just ridiculous. I think Slush lost his mojo. Later  trying GHash.IO, can't be any worse than this bullshit
newbie
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Morning,

Just a little question. Im not getting a best share value on my S2, but I am on both of my S3+.
Is this a problem? And if so, how do I rectify?

Many thanks as always.

Mick
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Poor impulse control.
where has all the hashrate gone?

Judith Durham wrote a song about that in the 70's

I thought it was 'Peter, Paul and Mary" and in the 1960s.
newbie
Activity: 12
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Everybody's bailing to Eligius.
Approximately same hash rate:
Eligius: 17 blocks found from 14 Jan to present; Slush 6 blocks found over same period.
The Saint of miners, St. Elegius is working his magic.


If you are a non US citizen you get F****d.
sr. member
Activity: 442
Merit: 250
Found Lost beach - quiet now
Everybody's bailing to Eligius.
Approximately same hash rate:
Eligius: 17 blocks found from 14 Jan to present; Slush 6 blocks found over same period.
The Saint of miners, St. Elegius is working his magic.
hero member
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where has all the hashrate gone?

Judith Durham wrote a song about that in the 70's
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F2 Pool is bitcoin cancer. Anyone who uses it and isn't in china is a fool. It is one of the slowest paying pools you can mine if you're running less than 20thash. There are much more effective pools to mine. If you are mining F2 Pool, pull out and put your power into Bitcoin affiliate. For PPS they do extremely well. BA and Slush are the only pools I mine for BTC. Don't support those china pools aka the btc dumpers.
donator
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Poor impulse control.

very strange, the chinese pool was able to change it's name from "Discus Fish" to "F2 Pool".



F2 Pool was never called "Discus Fish" by the owners. That was just a nickname I gave it from the coinbase signature of their blocks, and the nickname has stuck in the English-speaking world. The real name is "F2 Pool".

sr. member
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thankyou, That answers the question Smiley


very strange, the chinese pool was able to change it's name from "Discus Fish" to "F2 Pool".

Maybe chinese have more connections to blockchain, lol Smiley

Ok. Now you're just being silly.
newbie
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thankyou, That answers the question Smiley


very strange, the chinese pool was able to change it's name from "Discus Fish" to "F2 Pool".

Maybe chinese have more connections to blockchain, lol Smiley
sr. member
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When I started mining, it was all kilohash and megahash. I was too late for the centahash and pentahash days.
sr. member
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That's why BTC China,  Only twice the size of Slush,  finds 10+ blocks everyday!

Which proves my theory...  1 block per 2 Pentahash Per day!  

F2Pool 67 Pentahash = Should be 33 Blocks per day
Slush 10 Pentahash = Should be 5 Blocks Average per day
BTCChina 23 Pentahash = 10 Blocks Average per day
Antpool  42 Pentahash = 20 Blocks average per day
Bitcoin Aff Network = 2-3 Pentahash = 1 - 2 Block per day average
Bitminter = 1.8 Pentahash  = 1 Block per day
Ghash I.O  40 Pentahash = 20 Blocks per day average

Kano - I don't see your pool name on blockchain... What's up with that? Smiley

Would 2 Pentahash be 10 hashes?

Indeed it would
legendary
Activity: 4592
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
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Kano - I don't see your pool name on blockchain... What's up with that? Smiley

https://github.com/blockchain/Blockchain-Known-Pools/issues/20
legendary
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That's why BTC China,  Only twice the size of Slush,  finds 10+ blocks everyday!

Which proves my theory...  1 block per 2 Pentahash Per day!  

F2Pool 67 Pentahash = Should be 33 Blocks per day
Slush 10 Pentahash = Should be 5 Blocks Average per day
BTCChina 23 Pentahash = 10 Blocks Average per day
Antpool  42 Pentahash = 20 Blocks average per day
Bitcoin Aff Network = 2-3 Pentahash = 1 - 2 Block per day average
Bitminter = 1.8 Pentahash  = 1 Block per day
Ghash I.O  40 Pentahash = 20 Blocks per day average

Kano - I don't see your pool name on blockchain... What's up with that? Smiley

Would 2 Pentahash be 10 hashes?
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
That's why BTC China,  Only twice the size of Slush,  finds 10+ blocks everyday!

Which proves my theory...  1 block per 2 Pentahash Per day!  

F2Pool 67 Pentahash = Should be 33 Blocks per day
Slush 10 Pentahash = Should be 5 Blocks Average per day
BTCChina 23 Pentahash = 10 Blocks Average per day
Antpool  42 Pentahash = 20 Blocks average per day
Bitcoin Aff Network = 2-3 Pentahash = 1 - 2 Block per day average
Bitminter = 1.8 Pentahash  = 1 Block per day
Ghash I.O  40 Pentahash = 20 Blocks per day average

Kano - I don't see your pool name on blockchain... What's up with that? Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 544
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I only trust Chinese pools like Antpool, F2Pool, BTCChina,  Very consistent in finding blocks on daily basis. 
...
And there you have clearly pointed out your complete lack of understanding of the statistics of bitcoin mining.

Its ok kano, don't feed the troll. Sometimes it's not worth teaching a homeless man to fish. Let them learn to fish on their own or until they are willing to learn. Until then, you'll be talking to a brick wall until their mind is opened.
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I only trust Chinese pools like Antpool, F2Pool, BTCChina,  Very consistent in finding blocks on daily basis. 
...
And there you have clearly pointed out your complete lack of understanding of the statistics of bitcoin mining.
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
I only trust Chinese pools like Antpool, F2Pool, BTCChina,  Very consistent in finding blocks on daily basis. 

Beside,  even if they scam for 2-3 blocks per day,  small miners like me won't get hurt.

On smaller pools,  if the pool operator takes 1-2 blocks per day... it's a big chunk gone and will hurt small miners big time.


Beside that I see more and more blocks with IP addresses on blockchain than the pool name attached to it.


F2Pool    129
AntPool    74
GHash.IO    54
BTCChina Pool    39
BTC Guild    35
KnCMiner    28
Eligius    21
Unknown with 1AcAj9p Address    19
Slush    10
Megabigpower    5
BitMinter    5
P2Pool    4
Bitcoin Affiliate Network    4
MegaBigPower    3
Unknown with 1BwZeHJ Address    2
mmpool    1

Unknown Blocks.
Relayed By    count
212.126.14.122    20
69.157.250.149    15
108.61.166.183    10
88.198.6.235    7
192.237.217.160    7
100.38.32.91    7
98.167.17.122    4
85.195.114.243    4
66.194.38.253    4
211.149.223.99    4
211.149.217.191    4
94.242.222.215    3
85.17.4.212    3
178.79.179.49    3
78.110.175.69    2
54.69.104.67    2
37.34.58.203    2
104.200.24.180    2
89.212.15.202    1
83.150.9.196    1
83.149.248.80    1
81.181.155.180    1
74.87.146.62    1
66.175.218.237    1
62.210.90.95    1
50.188.192.133    1
50.116.59.118    1
5.9.156.134    1
5.9.123.81    1
46.28.204.193    1
216.49.158.161    1
192.187.98.90    1
192.146.137.1    1
192.121.166.20    1
192.0.130.142    1
178.79.131.32    1
173.254.235.34    1
148.251.83.196    1
148.251.1.119    1
142.4.212.168    1
135.23.200.5    1
108.16.2.175    1
104.236.22.62    1
104.130.124.44    1
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
2. PPLNS, Proportional, etc etc... (Ghash.io, Eligius, Kano, Slush, BTC Guild, etc...)

This payment model essentially waits for a block to be mined... then uses some algorithm to distribute the proceeds based on a miner's contribution to the pool. It sounds fine at first however there are some main issues that are unacceptable. This payment model allows the pool to be dishonest. There's nothing stopping a pool from doing a few things.
 1) A pool can choose to not report a block mined to the members of the pool. Essentially it'd allow the pool to keep the 25 bitcoins.
  2) A pool can 'make up' miners and say they did 'x' amount of work or manipulate stats of either their own miners to give itself a bigger share of the 25 btc.
  3) You have to 'trust' that the pool operator(s) are being honest about the statistics.


Simply put, I do not trust the pool operators.
Except that as I have stated about 1) elsewhere before, stealing the blocks is not likely to succeed, most likely to fail and the OP gets caught and you send the police around to charge them with grand larceny.

The cgminer API and log and stats all show when you find a block.
Who doesn't notice when they find a block?!?

So how is a pool going to steal that block without being caught out?
Well they have no guarantee that they wont be caught ... so 1) is not really an option for a well standing pool.

3) is a repeat of 2) so no point responding to it.

2) is of course a possibility but again, either the pool would have to be stealing a very small %, or the LONG TERM stats would show the pool as being untrustworthy.

However, to respond to your last comment, if you do not trust pool operators, then don't mine on pools.
Mine solo. Simple solution.
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