[4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool - page 241.

mstrongbow

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Quote from: Billbags on September 12, 2014, 10:42:57 PM

We have went from 8 blocks in 24 hours down to 6 blocks in 24 hours. With this pool hashrate we need a minimum of 12 blocks per 24 hour. You guys know I'm normally positive about this pool when everyone is bitching, but it's panic mode time!!!! Sound the alarms!!!!!!

Yeah I am watching the block count closely and will be making a move in the next couple/few days if necessary.

cowboyguy

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I have mined with Slush for several months but have never posted, however, my silence has ended. This is the end of a good thing!!!!! Goodbye Slush!!!!

wasikidding

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Quote from: cowboyguy on September 12, 2014, 11:07:22 PM

What happened to this pool!!! My rewards have tanked and it is taking the same amount of time or even longer to find a block. If this keeps up it will be time to move on. A pity considering this was a great place to mine. Nothing good lasts for ever!!!

Payouts are becoming fewer and further between Cry

cowboyguy

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What happened to this pool!!! My rewards have tanked and it is taking the same amount of time or even longer to find a block. If this keeps up it will be time to move on. A pity considering this was a great place to mine. Nothing good lasts for ever!!!

Billbags

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Brainwashed this way

We have went from 8 blocks in 24 hours down to 6 blocks in 24 hours. With this pool hashrate we need a minimum of 8 blocks per 24 hour. You guys know I'm normally positive about this pool when everyone is bitching, but it's panic mode time!!!! Sound the alarms!!!!!

-ck

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Ruu \o/

Quote from: sjc1490 on September 12, 2014, 08:07:02 PM

CK, know you visit various threads do you have any insight / speculation on the sudden appearance of the 3+PH here? As said thanks for that and other explanations it really does break it down and helps educate a lot of us.

No idea, and no they're not the same entity that mined on my solo pool.

sjc1490

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CK, know you visit various threads do you have any insight / speculation on the sudden appearance of the 3+PH here? As said thanks for that and other explanations it really does break it down and helps educate a lot of us.

mstrongbow

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Quote from: -ck on September 12, 2014, 07:42:43 PM

Quote from: tom99 on September 12, 2014, 07:32:43 PM

How do you know if someone was block witholding?

It has been discussed to death in other threads. There is absolutely no way of knowing it apart from bad luck for certain. The best you can do is be very suspicious once one miner has mined more than about 5x diff in shares and not found a block. By 10x diff it's almost certain. That's a long time to wait and see before you can start accusing, and there's nothing to stop them from just moving their mining to a different account or split it across multiple accounts to hide it. On the other hand, on a non-PPS pool, the miner has zero to gain by doing a block withhold unless they're maliciously trying to harm the pool as a very expensive exercise. The only known block withhold to date has been attributed to a software bug on the miner's part for their custom mining hardware+software combination, but even then we'll never know for sure.

Thank you for putting this into layman's terms. I actually understand it better now than from when I was trying to follow the thread and I do remember the custom software being mentioned now.

I don't claim to know too much about the technicalities of how mining works but I do my best to stay aware of whats happening so that I can make more educated decisions when it comes to buying new gear or what have you.

-ck

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Ruu \o/

Quote from: tom99 on September 12, 2014, 07:32:43 PM

How do you know if someone was block witholding?

It has been discussed to death in other threads. There is absolutely no way of knowing it apart from bad luck for certain. The best you can do is be very suspicious once one miner has mined more than about 5x diff in shares and not found a block. By 10x diff it's almost certain. That's a long time to wait and see before you can start accusing, and there's nothing to stop them from just moving their mining to a different account or split it across multiple accounts to hide it. On the other hand, on a non-PPS pool, the miner has zero to gain by doing a block withhold unless they're maliciously trying to harm the pool as a very expensive exercise. The only known block withhold to date has been attributed to a software bug on the miner's part for their custom mining hardware+software combination, but even then we'll never know for sure.

mstrongbow

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Quote from: tom99 on September 12, 2014, 07:32:43 PM

Quote from: mstrongbow on September 12, 2014, 07:21:05 PM

Quote from: sjc1490 on September 12, 2014, 05:51:54 PM

I wondering where it came from all of a sudden. I have looked at other pool forums and I don't think it is failover as all pools seem to be up. 3+ PH is a lot of hash to throw around wonder if a smaller pool is mining us I know multipoll.us jumps from pool to pool but I don't think they are close to that size.

Hmmm, makes me wonder if this was the 1 Ph/s miner that was block withholding on another pool but with 3x the hash power...

Those wondering about the "buggy" front end issues as of late...I do remember seeing a post on Facebook mentioning a WEBGUI update so I'd imagine that is all that is going on.

How do you know if someone was block witholding?

There's quite a few pages in the BTCGuild thread about the block withholding user...it was going on earlier this year from what I read

tom99

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Quote from: mstrongbow on September 12, 2014, 07:21:05 PM

Quote from: sjc1490 on September 12, 2014, 05:51:54 PM

I wondering where it came from all of a sudden. I have looked at other pool forums and I don't think it is failover as all pools seem to be up. 3+ PH is a lot of hash to throw around wonder if a smaller pool is mining us I know multipoll.us jumps from pool to pool but I don't think they are close to that size.

Hmmm, makes me wonder if this was the 1 Ph/s miner that was block withholding on another pool but with 3x the hash power...

Those wondering about the "buggy" front end issues as of late...I do remember seeing a post on Facebook mentioning a WEBGUI update so I'd imagine that is all that is going on.

How do you know if someone was block witholding?

mstrongbow

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Quote from: sjc1490 on September 12, 2014, 05:51:54 PM

I wondering where it came from all of a sudden. I have looked at other pool forums and I don't think it is failover as all pools seem to be up. 3+ PH is a lot of hash to throw around wonder if a smaller pool is mining us I know multipoll.us jumps from pool to pool but I don't think they are close to that size.

Hmmm, makes me wonder if this was the 1 Ph/s miner that was block withholding on another pool but with 3x the hash power...

Those wondering about the "buggy" front end issues as of late...I do remember seeing a post on Facebook mentioning a WEBGUI update so I'd imagine that is all that is going on.

sjc1490

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I wondering where it came from all of a sudden. I have looked at other pool forums and I don't think it is failover as all pools seem to be up. 3+ PH is a lot of hash to throw around wonder if a smaller pool is mining us I know multipoll.us jumps from pool to pool but I don't think they are close to that size.

Billbags

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Brainwashed this way

^ so much ghs at once. We may start nailing them down. We will see. Let the Rain Dance begin!!! We are officially testing new waters. I guess we need a minimum of 12 blocks a day to survive? If we can keep it steady and balanced without people hopping around and throwing off our processing stability, which does effect luck on block solving, we may have a chance.

wasikidding

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Quote from: ?? on ??

^ Twice as much ghs has cut my profits in half. Notice it really hasn't affected our block count much. If we were nailing down 18 or so blocks a day then yes more ghs would be better. Mabey a pplns pool that worked in shifts I would be sitting a little better with this issue.

would love if just before this diff jump ...prob tomorrow we could have some nice rain 15 blocks 24 hrs yes PLZ Roll Eyes

bobsav2121

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Quote from: ?? on ??

^ Twice as much ghs has cut my profits in half. Notice it really hasn't affected our block count much. If we were nailing down 18 or so blocks a day then yes more ghs would be better. Mabey a pplns pool that worked in shifts I would be sitting a little better with this issue.

I agree if blocks dont increase with this huge surge of hashing power then somethings wrong in Demark

TvaiX

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Statistically speaking, I think bigger pool power is good. It helps crunch big blocks faster, but because of good pool luck we get more payment, even it is divided in smaller payments. If I`m correct.

sjc1490

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Free beer and t-shirts at ghash.io!!! You make double the bitcoin there and the guy who ownes it is a saint. Pool hopping actually works good there as long as you hop between ghash and Eligius(not Slush's). You just have to go try it out. All the hashrate there is from happy customers that they respect so much and not from a huge bitfurry farm that has led to the end of home mining making any profits. I respect all the smart people who kept mining there helping ghash make the profits to keep buying more asics for their farm. People talk bad about them sometimes but all they did in the past was intentionally double spend payments against the system but they admitted it - so that's ok. See you there! Go ghash

You got me a free beer and t-shirts........They really need to work on the "Evil Empire" logo though.

moss

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Quote from: bspurloc on September 12, 2014, 12:54:55 PM

Quote from: moss on September 12, 2014, 11:47:04 AM

Quote from: bspurloc on September 12, 2014, 10:04:56 AM

Quote from: moss on September 12, 2014, 05:18:44 AM

As pool rate went up by nearly 50%, my reward came down 33%. Upside should be more blocks? But latest one still over 8 hrs and counting. Undecided

the pool went up by 33% not 50% so your payout should drop 33% as it did.

It was on 67 and went up to 97, so actually 45%, but not far off 50%. An increase of 'approx' 50% meant the old pool total was 2/3rds of what it is now, so we roughly get a third less. I think that an increase of 33% would have meant a reward reduction of a quarter, not a third.

important part is the owners of 30 increase go back to their original pool and ASAP!!!

No argument from me on that!

Seems to be dropping... down to 87 now.
Edit: Dropped as low as 79, now up to 87 again (20:46:08 UTC). Huh

cris12821

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My shares. Reward
0 0.00025848

Lol into the pool is massively glitching lately but lol how is this even possible.

Doesn't bother me though nothings going to stop me from hashing on slushs pool. I just might split my miners between pool.

But it seems this is a elongated issue that seems to take time being fixed but time is but an essense, precious.

Best luck to all in fixing this issue

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