[4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool - page 448.

Altoidnerd

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Quote from: mdopro1 on January 09, 2014, 01:32:05 PM

Quote from: BadAss.Sx on January 09, 2014, 01:21:16 PM

Even when that is true, i still have calculated 700k shares in that round, so i still have the right for my share.

Not true because your reward drops much faster if you stop mining. This is to prevent pool-hoping but I think it's working real good in operator's favor. I don't think the missing reward go to other miners, it goes to the owner.

Which also makes Slush useless for backup pool because if my pool goes down and my equipment switches to Slush for a bit, I will likely not finish a round before my main pool comes back online and miners switch back. So essentially mining for pool owner's new sports car.

The more I read this thread and lack of responsibility from Slush the more I hate Slush. Outright theft and most people are ok with that. I want that kind of blind loyalty.

Hate slush? If it weren't for him you'd be solo mining. Long live king slush. The fact is simple; he's kind of a bitcoin saint and doesn't have time to deal with this 710 page forum.

kkurtmann

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Quote from: KNK on January 09, 2014, 12:30:52 PM

Probably, because you have stopped mining at the end of the round ... compare the number of shares for similar round (or two) duration - for example 21402 and 21403 together are exactly the same time as 21355, so if you have less shares in 21355 that is the reason for your 0 reward.
This is the most common (and probably the only) cause with Slush pool. Some people do not read or understand the way it works, but then complain about nonexistent pool problems

one of the smartest posts I've read here in weeks, well done

EasyQuest

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Quote from: musicmaker613 on January 09, 2014, 04:56:24 PM

It's easy to tell who the veteran miners are vs. the newcomers. I've never posted in this thread, but I've been mining with Slush for about a year now-- long enough to understand that there are sometimes glitches and that they rarely go unfixed. It's so obvious that many of the users crying foul lately have never taken the time to study the mechanics of Slush pool (reward system, payout etc) nor do they have any idea who Slush is or what he has contributed to the bitcoin ecosystem. Those accusing Slush of being a thief or pocketing your rewards need to stop and realize he is essentially the pioneer of cooperative mining as we know it. People need to stop and think: Maybe the pool just has issues as of late.... Maybe there isn't someone just trying to rip me off. Is a glitchy pool grounds to leave? Absolutely. Grounds to accuse someone of thievery and malice? Hardly.

Just my 2 cents. In other news, pool luck is recovering. That is nice.

I see, I too am also here for about a year now mining since the pool was only 2.5 TH/s.... now at 600 TH/s things has changed a lot with ASICs kicking GPUs miners off the network, and increasing the difficulty.

I remember when the difficulty was below 3 million. As for glitches they fix on their own, and as expect from the last glitch, if fixed itself. I am happy to have been mining on this pool for over a year now.

-Cheers

madjoe1974

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yesterday i got an email from his support staff:

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Hi,

We are sorry for the inconvenience. We have been experiencing issues with bitcoind service. The issue has been fixed.

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Best regards,
Pool support team

Ticket Details
---------------------------------
Ticket ID: KQR-***-*****
Department: slushpool
Type: Issue
Status: Open
Priority: Critical

Helpdesk: http://support.bitcoin.cz
You can check the status of or update this ticket online at: http://support.bitcoin.cz/Tickets/Ticket/View/KQR-***-*****

for me i must say all is every time fixed in one or two days

Mudbankkeith

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Quote from: musicmaker613 on January 09, 2014, 04:56:24 PM

It's easy to tell who the veteran miners are vs. the newcomers. I've never posted in this thread, but I've been mining with Slush for about a year now-- long enough to understand that there are sometimes glitches and that they rarely go unfixed. It's so obvious that many of the users crying foul lately have never taken the time to study the mechanics of Slush pool (reward system, payout etc) nor do they have any idea who Slush is or what he has contributed to the bitcoin ecosystem. Those accusing Slush of being a thief or pocketing your rewards need to stop and realize he is essentially the pioneer of cooperative mining as we know it. People need to stop and think: Maybe the pool just has issues as of late.... Maybe there isn't someone just trying to rip me off. Is a glitchy pool grounds to leave? Absolutely. Grounds to accuse someone of thievery and malice? Hardly.

Just my 2 cents. In other news, pool luck is recovering. That is nice.

some of the errors are also down to poor internet connections and ISP servers wobbling. There are a lot of connections between workrooms and the pool servers.
For a text file like an email, the system can correct the missing data. For a string of encrypted bitcoin hash arriving late, there is no recovery.

musicmaker613

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It's easy to tell who the veteran miners are vs. the newcomers. I've never posted in this thread, but I've been mining with Slush for about a year now-- long enough to understand that there are sometimes glitches and that they rarely go unfixed. It's so obvious that many of the users crying foul lately have never taken the time to study the mechanics of Slush pool (reward system, payout etc) nor do they have any idea who Slush is or what he has contributed to the bitcoin ecosystem. Those accusing Slush of being a thief or pocketing your rewards need to stop and realize he is essentially the pioneer of cooperative mining as we know it. People need to stop and think: Maybe the pool just has issues as of late.... Maybe there isn't someone just trying to rip me off. Is a glitchy pool grounds to leave? Absolutely. Grounds to accuse someone of thievery and malice? Hardly.

Just my 2 cents. In other news, pool luck is recovering. That is nice.

InfiniteGrim

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Are some blocks still not being counted? I had one that was 6-7 rounds ago listed as "NONE" for the reward. It now has a reward but my total hasn't gone up.

MrTeal

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Quote from: mdopro1 on January 09, 2014, 01:32:05 PM

Quote from: BadAss.Sx on January 09, 2014, 01:21:16 PM

Even when that is true, i still have calculated 700k shares in that round, so i still have the right for my share.

Not true because your reward drops much faster if you stop mining. This is to prevent pool-hoping but I think it's working real good in operator's favor. I don't think the missing reward go to other miners, it goes to the owner.

Which also makes Slush useless for backup pool because if my pool goes down and my equipment switches to Slush for a bit, I will likely not finish a round before my main pool comes back online and miners switch back. So essentially mining for pool owner's new sports car.

The more I read this thread and lack of responsibility from Slush the more I hate Slush. Outright theft and most people are ok with that. I want that kind of blind loyalty.

Everything you wrote other than the first sentence is wrong. The entire payout (minus fees) is distributed to miners. The score for each miner is calculated, and then the reward is split.

The expected value of hashing on Slush's pool for 5 minutes twice a day for two weeks is exactly the same as hashing there for 140 minutes consecutively. The variance will be higher, but it's just as possible to catch the end of a block and earn way more than PPS for that 5 minutes of work as it is to not hit any and have low rewards.

KNK

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Quote from: mdopro1 on January 09, 2014, 01:32:05 PM

I don't think the missing reward go to other miners, it goes to the owner.

Not true, because 'the block reward + fees - poll fee' is divided based on each miners score compared to the total score. The only reward that Slush gets is the pool fee.

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Which also makes Slush useless for backup pool

This is true. Slush aims at full time miners using other pools as backups, not the opposite.

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Outright theft and most people are ok with that. I want that kind of blind loyalty.

Theft - No.
Loyalty - Yes
Blind - No. Slush have proved to be scrupulous in the last 2+ years (since I am mining here). A bit slower in fixing things lately, but always fixing them right.

mdopro1

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Double your Personal Bitcoin Funds.

Quote from: BadAss.Sx on January 09, 2014, 01:21:16 PM

Even when that is true, i still have calculated 700k shares in that round, so i still have the right for my share.

Not true because your reward drops much faster if you stop mining. This is to prevent pool-hoping but I think it's working real good in operator's favor. I don't think the missing reward go to other miners, it goes to the owner.

Which also makes Slush useless for backup pool because if my pool goes down and my equipment switches to Slush for a bit, I will likely not finish a round before my main pool comes back online and miners switch back. So essentially mining for pool owner's new sports car.

The more I read this thread and lack of responsibility from Slush the more I hate Slush. Outright theft and most people are ok with that. I want that kind of blind loyalty.

KNK

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Quote from: BadAss.Sx on January 09, 2014, 01:21:16 PM

Even when that is true, i still have calculated 700k shares in that round, so i still have the right for my share.

Quote from: KNK on January 09, 2014, 12:30:52 PM

Some people do not read or understand the way it works, but then complain about nonexistent pool problems

BadAss.Sx

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Quote from: KNK on January 09, 2014, 12:30:52 PM

Probably, because you have stopped mining at the end of the round ... compare the number of shares for similar round (or two) duration - for example 21402 and 21403 together are exactly the same time as 21355, so if you have less shares in 21355 that is the reason for your 0 reward.
This is the most common (and probably the only) cause with Slush pool. Some people do not read or understand the way it works, but then complain about nonexistent pool problems

Even when that is true, i still have calculated 700k shares in that round, so i still have the right for my share.

legoman

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I have received a few of the none rewards like everyone else, I know for a fact that my equipment is working 24/7. As far as I can tell these issues have always been sorted by Slush within a day or two.

Grubenhund

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Code:

21410 2014-01-09 16:42:19 2:28:37 1289444440 681363 0.01226382 279517 25.03871979 88 Bestätigungen ausstehend
21409 2014-01-09 14:13:42 1:41:20 874452642 368165 0.01272845 279496 25.15484964 67 Bestätigungen ausstehend
21408 2014-01-09 12:32:22 4:22:33 2241595323 none none 279487 25.20279536 58 Bestätigungen ausstehend
21407 2014-01-09 08:09:49 3:07:47 1593939640 45999 0.00720622 279451 25.05046229 22 Bestätigungen ausstehend
21406 2014-01-09 05:02:02 0:01:14 9793209 none none 279423 25.00811000 bestätigt
21405 2014-01-09 05:00:48 1:40:44 857271444 none none 279422 25.09846867 bestätigt

arejus

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Quote from: KNK on January 09, 2014, 12:30:52 PM

Probably, because you have stopped mining at the end of the round ... compare the number of shares for similar round (or two) duration - for example 21402 and 21403 together are exactly the same time as 21355, so if you have less shares in 21355 that is the reason for your 0 reward.
This is the most common (and probably the only) cause with Slush pool. Some people do not read or understand the way it works, but then complain about nonexistent pool problems

However, I was comaring indeed. I saw by my self when the round was over. Which means, that statistics about the round show wrong information.

KNK

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Probably, because you have stopped mining at the end of the round ... compare the number of shares for similar round (or two) duration - for example 21402 and 21403 together are exactly the same time as 21355, so if you have less shares in 21355 that is the reason for your 0 reward.
This is the most common (and probably the only) cause with Slush pool. Some people do not read or understand the way it works, but then complain about nonexistent pool problems

BadAss.Sx

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Quote from: bspurloc on January 09, 2014, 11:51:50 AM

Quote from: BadAss.Sx on January 09, 2014, 11:47:27 AM

I have also none from block 21408. Also an unanswered ticket already one week. He is not responding at all.

there really is no reason to respond.
He knows.
He will fix it.
He is Slush.

Is that so? Why do i have mined 700k shares in a block and received nothing for it already more then a week ago?

KNK

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Quote from: bspurloc on January 09, 2014, 11:51:50 AM

there really is no reason to respond.
He knows.
He will fix it.
He is Slush.

+1
Well said

bspurloc

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Quote from: BadAss.Sx on January 09, 2014, 11:47:27 AM

I have also none from block 21408. Also an unanswered ticket already one week. He is not responding at all.

there really is no reason to respond.
He knows.
He will fix it.
He is Slush.

BadAss.Sx

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I have also none from block 21408. Also an unanswered ticket already one week. He is not responding at all.

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