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Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool - page 708. (Read 4382760 times)

legendary
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lucko, visdude and myself been saying something was up for the last few blocks.... more than just luck
full member
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Brony Bitcoin, Litecoin Miner
Crazy stuff is happening.

I have never seen this before in the time I have been on this pool (about 4 months)

I think all the scoring issue that was happen the pass day and the day before is now gone crazy and crashed.
full member
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Pool has go crazy?  
Negative hash rates?  
Block length -1 day 22 hours?  
Scores 20 digits long?
newbie
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So something seems to be off with the website:

I'm showing a current round duration of -1 day, 22:05:06, hashrate of -7.479 Mhash/s, and a score of 11326371345454392.0000.

My miner shows a hashrate at about 180 Mhash/s.

Sorry if someone already reported this, this thread moves fast.
member
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hello body, what's the matter? Shocked
sr. member
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Beautiful, but not clear.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 1000
Well this is new...

-8MH/s with a score in the billions!

Smiley same

69576281122076992.0000   0 minutes   -61.885   yes   1

18224 is not right either ...


edited:
KNK here is what I got for 18224:

18224   2013-05-26 10:37:55   1:21:22   12090101   668   0.00083415

18223   2013-05-26 09:16:33   1:24:44   12496220   667   0.00131342

3 mins shorter block, less total shares and I have 1 more share  all than the block before but end up with 30% less?

Would like some help in understanding this. Thanks

i think its down to "luck", in 1 minute i can sometimes find 6 shares, other times none, also the hashing power of pool at the time and the score.

What luck? Pool has problems from 18222 on. Every block. It has problems calculating reword...

yes, calculations are off to start off with, but then they DO get corrected, in the case we are talking about this is not the issue, the variance is and while using the basic formula for calculating the reward says 18224 should be 0.001 i believe the score system has lowered it by a minimal amount.
with regards to "luck", well it affects more than just blocks found the way i see it.
I'm not sure about fix part. I think there are some that don't:

18224   2013-05-26 10:37:55   1:21:22   12090101   2827   0.00449584   none   238003   25.34317000    77 confirmations left
18223   2013-05-26 09:16:33   1:24:44   12496220   2730   0.00537575   none   237996   25.10896011    70 confirmations left

24 is much to low... Less total shares and more of my shares but still less by 20%. This one still needs to be fix...

 my understanding is that the time the shares were submitted affects the value, and i know for fact that the number of shares i find in any given time varies greatly (between 1-12 per minute, only got 300Mhs atm) basic formula says 18224 = 0.0058 for you but what about when you found those shares, i tend to find many more early in the round. hey im a noob so what do i know, just my observations.
Yes but not  by that much. Maybe 5% not 20%. Difference is to big not to be a mistake and we know that scoring is failing right now....

EDIT: And it is 8 times your speed...
newbie
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Well this is new...

-8MH/s with a score in the billions!
member
Activity: 61
Merit: 10
18224 is not right either ...


edited:
KNK here is what I got for 18224:

18224   2013-05-26 10:37:55   1:21:22   12090101   668   0.00083415

18223   2013-05-26 09:16:33   1:24:44   12496220   667   0.00131342

3 mins shorter block, less total shares and I have 1 more share  all than the block before but end up with 30% less?

Would like some help in understanding this. Thanks

i think its down to "luck", in 1 minute i can sometimes find 6 shares, other times none, also the hashing power of pool at the time and the score.

What luck? Pool has problems from 18222 on. Every block. It has problems calculating reword...

yes, calculations are off to start off with, but then they DO get corrected, in the case we are talking about this is not the issue, the variance is and while using the basic formula for calculating the reward says 18224 should be 0.001 i believe the score system has lowered it by a minimal amount.
with regards to "luck", well it affects more than just blocks found the way i see it.
I'm not sure about fix part. I think there are some that don't:

18224   2013-05-26 10:37:55   1:21:22   12090101   2827   0.00449584   none   238003   25.34317000    77 confirmations left
18223   2013-05-26 09:16:33   1:24:44   12496220   2730   0.00537575   none   237996   25.10896011    70 confirmations left

24 is much to low... Less total shares and more of my shares but still less by 20%. This one still needs to be fix...

 my understanding is that the time the shares were submitted affects the value, and i know for fact that the number of shares i find in any given time varies greatly (between 1-12 per minute, only got 300Mhs atm) basic formula says 18224 = 0.0058 for you but what about when you found those shares, i tend to find many more early in the round. hey im a noob so what do i know, just my observations.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 1000
18224 is not right either ...


edited:
KNK here is what I got for 18224:

18224   2013-05-26 10:37:55   1:21:22   12090101   668   0.00083415

18223   2013-05-26 09:16:33   1:24:44   12496220   667   0.00131342

3 mins shorter block, less total shares and I have 1 more share  all than the block before but end up with 30% less?

Would like some help in understanding this. Thanks

i think its down to "luck", in 1 minute i can sometimes find 6 shares, other times none, also the hashing power of pool at the time and the score.

What luck? Pool has problems from 18222 on. Every block. It has problems calculating reword...

yes, calculations are off to start off with, but then they DO get corrected, in the case we are talking about this is not the issue, the variance is and while using the basic formula for calculating the reward says 18224 should be 0.001 i believe the score system has lowered it by a minimal amount.
with regards to "luck", well it affects more than just blocks found the way i see it.
I'm not sure about fix part. I think there are some that don't:

18224   2013-05-26 10:37:55   1:21:22   12090101   2827   0.00449584   none   238003   25.34317000    77 confirmations left
18223   2013-05-26 09:16:33   1:24:44   12496220   2730   0.00537575   none   237996   25.10896011    70 confirmations left

24 is much to low... Less total shares and more of my shares but still less by 20%. This one still needs to be fix...
member
Activity: 61
Merit: 10
18224 is not right either ...


edited:
KNK here is what I got for 18224:

18224   2013-05-26 10:37:55   1:21:22   12090101   668   0.00083415

18223   2013-05-26 09:16:33   1:24:44   12496220   667   0.00131342

3 mins shorter block, less total shares and I have 1 more share  all than the block before but end up with 30% less?

Would like some help in understanding this. Thanks

i think its down to "luck", in 1 minute i can sometimes find 6 shares, other times none, also the hashing power of pool at the time and the score.

What luck? Pool has problems from 18222 on. Every block. It has problems calculating reword...

yes, calculations are off to start off with, but then they DO get corrected, in the case we are talking about this is not the issue, the variance is and while using the basic formula for calculating the reward says 18224 should be 0.001 i believe the score system has lowered it by a minimal amount.
with regards to "luck", well it affects more than just blocks found the way i see it.
legendary
Activity: 1081
Merit: 1001
Here's mine:

18222    2013-05-26 07:51:49    2:13:47    19315340    1641    0.00000000 (69 confirmations left)
18207    2013-05-25 10:18:27    3:04:34    26651843    2635    0.00000000 (confirmed)
18205    2013-05-25 07:05:26    1:39:50    14336575    1732    0.00076288 (confirmed)

So, what's really going on.  It's not like this is the first time this happened.

Wow ...just checked my shares against yours on those blocks... you got screwed
Like I said, this is not the first time but it seems they've been occurring on a regular basis recently.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 1000
18224 is not right either ...


edited:
KNK here is what I got for 18224:

18224   2013-05-26 10:37:55   1:21:22   12090101   668   0.00083415

18223   2013-05-26 09:16:33   1:24:44   12496220   667   0.00131342

3 mins shorter block, less total shares and I have 1 more share  all than the block before but end up with 30% less?

Would like some help in understanding this. Thanks

i think its down to "luck", in 1 minute i can sometimes find 6 shares, other times none, also the hashing power of pool at the time and the score.

What luck? Pool has problems from 18222 on. Every block. It has problems calculating reword...
KNK
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Merit: 502
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still have a larger share count ( even if its only 1 share)
share count means nothing - your score is which does. Yes, it is based on the shares submitted, but also on the time when they are submitted.
There are many posts in the last few pages, with links to the scoring system explanation - i am not going to post them again ... or we need to post them at the top of each page?
legendary
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Merit: 1001
Total score is not resetting for a second round and keeps growing, which is more disturbing.

18224   2013-05-26 10:37:55   1:21:22   12090101   115   0.00030944
18223   2013-05-26 09:16:33   1:24:44   12496220   138   0.00027174

for the rounds above it is probably because of the score method variance - most of your shares are probably at the beginning of the round for 188224

KNK if that was true I would understand but the hash rate is running about the same and I can compare it to other blocks to see that the share count is normal. There can not be that great of a difference 30% between what I mine at the start and the end and still have a larger share count ( even if its only 1 share) . I have been avg .0015 so the .0013 I got on #18223 is already on the low side so the payout on #18224 just does not seem right. I have had many others in the past as we wnt thru some of the past problems here but sat and watch how it was taken care of or not but ever time I think we have things fixed something seems to come up. Just trying to understand whats happening as when my asic get to me I want to stay here and mine with them. Thanks for any input.

EDIT:

ok thanks KNK I will try to do more reading so I can better understand it.
newbie
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 Hi Slush,
 Great job as per usual...Been Mining with ya for nearly 2 years Smiley
This restart was from the last stable run of 3 weeks (I restart on occasion because I like to tinker with my miners)  l think the only reason it restarted (stopped mining) here was  around the time you had to update the Client?..no matter in 2 years think i have lost a total or 10-20 hours mining..lol...Keep up the Great work. (Most time lost (straight) was during the recent Ddos attack!)
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cgminer version 3.1.0 - Started: [2013-05-23 00:03:39]

No disconnects no restarts. Solid .

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18224    2013-05-26 10:37:55    1:21:22    12090101    3048    0.00514693    none    238003    25.34317000    89 confirmations left
18223    2013-05-26 09:16:33    1:24:44    12496220    3109    0.00612205    none    237996    25.10896011    82 confirmations left
18222    2013-05-26 07:51:49    2:13:47    19315340    4763    0.00560726    none    237983    25.09710000    69 confirmations left
18221    2013-05-26 05:38:02    3:11:30    27934550    6805    0.00668075    none    237971    25.51695000    57 confirmations left
18220    2013-05-26 02:26:32    2:54:45    25450746    6180    0.00638513    none    237951    25.39346000    37 confirmations left
18219    2013-05-25 23:31:47    0:33:15    4923475            1123    0.00554514    none    237930    25.21042000    16 confirmations left
18218    2013-05-25 22:58:32    0:25:35    3752990             947    0.00618375    none    237928    25.00650000    14 confirmations left
18217    2013-05-25 22:32:57    1:00:46    8928761             2261    0.00643427    0.02292500    237921    25.47807000    7 confirmations left
18216    2013-05-25 21:32:11    0:26:24    3940018           925    0.00538877    none    237915    25.07852000    1 confirmations left
18215    2013-05-25 21:05:47    0:39:06    5804029           1422    0.00647087    none    237911    25.01939317    confirmed
18214    2013-05-25 20:26:41    0:01:08    161409               47    0.00710181    none    237904    25.15966024    confirmed
18213    2013-05-25 20:25:33    0:28:52    4289177           1057    0.00565046    none    237903    25.51505422    confirmed
18212    2013-05-25 19:56:41    4:16:32    37468925    9294    0.00739054    none    237901    25.49761095    confirmed
18211    2013-05-25 15:40:09    2:42:32    23460600    5757    0.00548504    none    237878    25.16248000    confirmed
18210    2013-05-25 12:57:37    1:33:22    13875470    3289    0.00522103    none    237854    25.25093000    confirmed
18209    2013-05-25 11:24:15    1:04:10    9344251           2398    0.00677477    0.02439437    237840    25.46761000    confirmed
18208    2013-05-25 10:20:05    0:01:38    235584               64    0.00653932    none    237833    25.05210100    confirmed
18207    2013-05-25 10:18:27    3:04:34    26651843    6797    0.00693206    none    237832    25.25301000    confirmed
18206    2013-05-25 07:13:53    0:08:27    1247044             262    0.00584289    none    237818    25.18919160    confirmed
18205    2013-05-25 07:05:26    1:39:50    14336575    3318    0.00644215    none    237817    25.41636648    confirmed
18204    2013-05-25 05:25:36    0:29:47    4422460           1071    0.00498456    none    237807    25.36430000    confirmed
18203    2013-05-25 04:55:49    0:32:47    4869975            1185    0.00648342    none    237802    25.27910042    confirmed
18202    2013-05-25 04:23:02    0:18:18    2742452             609    0.00594853    none    237799    25.39880000    confirmed
18201    2013-05-25 04:04:44    0:44:33    6618180           1644    0.00545509    none    237796    25.53331587    confirmed
18200    2013-05-25 03:20:11    0:13:41    2063226             478    0.00639920    none    237791    25.37998882    confirmed
18199    2013-05-25 03:06:30    0:39:30    5870926           1400    0.00573155    none    237789    25.50316006    confirmed
18198    2013-05-25 02:27:00    0:05:17    800094             198    0.00621679    none    237787    25.09925042    confirmed
18197    2013-05-25 02:21:43    0:15:41    2312273             560    0.00601923    none    237785    25.40990078    confirmed
18196    2013-05-25 02:06:02    1:57:45    17375137    4342    0.00835591    none    237784    32.71150005    confirmed
18195    2013-05-25 00:08:17    7:13:34    63694602    15150    0.00584061    0.04201930    237770    25.28385033    confirmed

I also haven't noticed any weirdness in the payouts lately. (except that double block you explained a few days back. Their may be a few lower then the rest, not sure if any that would have had me turn off one card to watch a video would still be showing here. course we are seeing a slight downturn on payouts as the Diff just adjusted up again.

TO be clear here, I am not saying anyone else is not having Problems...i am showing it is not everyone. This may or may not help , but it may lead Slush to the underlying problem IF their is one.

Xubuntu > X64 > Cgminer 3.1.0<
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1001
Here's mine:

18222    2013-05-26 07:51:49    2:13:47    19315340    1641    0.00000000 (69 confirmations left)
18207    2013-05-25 10:18:27    3:04:34    26651843    2635    0.00000000 (confirmed)
18205    2013-05-25 07:05:26    1:39:50    14336575    1732    0.00076288 (confirmed)

So, what's really going on.  It's not like this is the first time this happened.

Wow ...just checked my shares against yours on those blocks... you got screwed
KNK
hero member
Activity: 692
Merit: 502
Total score is not resetting for a second round and keeps growing, which is more disturbing.

18224   2013-05-26 10:37:55   1:21:22   12090101   115   0.00030944
18223   2013-05-26 09:16:33   1:24:44   12496220   138   0.00027174

for the rounds above it is probably because of the score method variance - most of your shares are probably at the beginning of the round for 188224
member
Activity: 61
Merit: 10
18224 is not right either ...


edited:
KNK here is what I got for 18224:

18224   2013-05-26 10:37:55   1:21:22   12090101   668   0.00083415

18223   2013-05-26 09:16:33   1:24:44   12496220   667   0.00131342

3 mins shorter block, less total shares and I have 1 more share  all than the block before but end up with 30% less?

Would like some help in understanding this. Thanks

i think its down to "luck", in 1 minute i can sometimes find 6 shares, other times none, also the hashing power of pool at the time and the score.
legendary
Activity: 1081
Merit: 1001
Here's mine:

18222    2013-05-26 07:51:49    2:13:47    19315340    1641    0.00000000 (69 confirmations left)
18207    2013-05-25 10:18:27    3:04:34    26651843    2635    0.00000000 (confirmed)
18205    2013-05-25 07:05:26    1:39:50    14336575    1732    0.00076288 (confirmed)

So, what's really going on.  It's not like this is the first time this happened.
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