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Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool - page 893. (Read 4382653 times)

legendary
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Any news on DGM? I just noticed again today that my payouts sometimes vary between 0.14 BTC (34 min) and 0.01 BTC per round (4 min) with the same hashrate.

This is quite extreme.
newbie
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It went down for a couple of minutes but it's working again
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1001
Everything running smooth here.
newbie
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full member
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I'm curious as to why we are stuck on 'processing' for the past 5 blocks (at this time anyhow) and even fully confirmed blocks haven't been crediting to 'confirmed reward'. I know that block explorer was down earlier (and is again now) but it was up for an hour between then and now. Is there a separate portion of that which the pool accesses for confirmation information that was unavailable right through? am I mis-remembering where the information is pulled from? or is it some other reason? Not overly worried here, just wondering.

Thralen
newbie
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Hi, I think this might be some kind of issue:

I don't mine 24/7, maybe 5-6 hours a day (uninterrumpted). Usually I'd get like 0.01xxx btc reward for one 1/2 hour for reward, but lately, it doesn't matter if I mine 4 hours straight, I won't get any reward. Even though the estimated reward for currend round is at 0.01xxx. Am I mining only when the pool is having bad luck? Am I doing something wrong? I switched to btc guild because I wouldnt get anything. After a few days mining at btcguild I wanted to switch back to slush, but it looks like I am not getting anything again. What is happening? Is there something I don't know?

thanks
full member
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Are you sure your not just seeing lower payout due to higher difficulty?
donator
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1007
Poor impulse control.
I haven't had the same issue.

But you also have to watch the total pool hashrate.  As the total goes up, your reward for a block will go down.

For example I might get an average of about .1 btc per round when the total pool hashrate is around 1100 ghash, but when it goes up to 1400ghash, my average per round will go down to between .08 and .09 btc.  The plus side to this is as the total pool hashrate goes up, the pool luck tends to go up and we have more blocks found.  So your total reward will tend to even out.

The length of the round only matters in rounds generally under ten minutes.  That is a result of pool hoppers, and Slush is working on fixing that.

I think you're getting a bit mixed up here. If the total hashrate goes up, everyone gets paid less since there are more miners. But this isn't pool hopping. If the hashrate stays high and the strategic miners don't leave, you'll still end up with proportionally less because it's being divided by more miners.



If you read carefully, that is basically exactly what I said.

At the end I added a side note about short rounds.  Short rounds payout less because pool hoppers are taking more than their fare share.  Maybe I should have been more clear?


No, perhaps I should have read more slowly, and not just the first part of the first paragraph and the last part of the second paragraph Wink

hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
I haven't had the same issue.

But you also have to watch the total pool hashrate.  As the total goes up, your reward for a block will go down.

For example I might get an average of about .1 btc per round when the total pool hashrate is around 1100 ghash, but when it goes up to 1400ghash, my average per round will go down to between .08 and .09 btc.  The plus side to this is as the total pool hashrate goes up, the pool luck tends to go up and we have more blocks found.  So your total reward will tend to even out.

The length of the round only matters in rounds generally under ten minutes.  That is a result of pool hoppers, and Slush is working on fixing that.

I think you're getting a bit mixed up here. If the total hashrate goes up, everyone gets paid less since there are more miners. But this isn't pool hopping. If the hashrate stays high and the strategic miners don't leave, you'll still end up with proportionally less because it's being divided by more miners.



If you read carefully, that is basically exactly what I said.

At the end I added a side note about short rounds.  Short rounds payout less because pool hoppers are taking more than their fare share.  Maybe I should have been more clear?
donator
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1007
Poor impulse control.
I haven't had the same issue.

But you also have to watch the total pool hashrate.  As the total goes up, your reward for a block will go down.

For example I might get an average of about .1 btc per round when the total pool hashrate is around 1100 ghash, but when it goes up to 1400ghash, my average per round will go down to between .08 and .09 btc.  The plus side to this is as the total pool hashrate goes up, the pool luck tends to go up and we have more blocks found.  So your total reward will tend to even out.

The length of the round only matters in rounds generally under ten minutes.  That is a result of pool hoppers, and Slush is working on fixing that.

I think you're getting a bit mixed up here. If the total hashrate goes up, everyone gets paid less since there are more miners. But this isn't pool hopping. If the hashrate stays high and the strategic miners don't leave, you'll still end up with proportionally less because it's being divided by more miners.

donator
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1007
Poor impulse control.
Good or bad luck matters? From what I seen, there are blocks that take the same time to find, but 30% less payout?

Luck matters hugely. It's why people will pay a 10% fee for Pay Per Share. 30% up or down in one day is not unusual. It's why I started DeepBit Miner Earnings Insurance. If enough miners here want the same thing I'll provide it.

The basic idea is that you buy bonds which pay you back in proportion to the round shares here. That way if the pool is unlucky you end up with more. If the pool is lucky you get less, but then your mining did well. It works similar to a PPS payout method, and would enable you to remain here but not be bothered by variance.

A second reason for the variance in your payout is the score method itself, which can lead to greater or lesser payouts than you'd expect.
hero member
Activity: 490
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I haven't had the same issue.

But you also have to watch the total pool hashrate.  As the total goes up, your reward for a block will go down.

For example I might get an average of about .1 btc per round when the total pool hashrate is around 1100 ghash, but when it goes up to 1400ghash, my average per round will go down to between .08 and .09 btc.  The plus side to this is as the total pool hashrate goes up, the pool luck tends to go up and we have more blocks found.  So your total reward will tend to even out.

:EDIT:  SIDE NOTE - (not related to what I said above, but something to keep in mind) The length of the round only matters in rounds generally under ten minutes.  Normal miners will make less in these rounds.  That is a result of pool hoppers, and Slush is working on fixing that.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 502
Have any of you miners at slush noticed a significant decrease in BTC reward in the last day?

Or is this due to pool hoppers?
^

i noticed this, too
about 30% less payout.

I hope it gets figured out. I don't want to jump to another pool either, as waiting for the blocks to be confirmed takes nearly 4 days on slush's.

Slush's rewards confirm after 100 blocks, which is less than 24 hours.  Where are you getting 4 days from?

Looking at recent blocks, you can see quite a few 4/5 hour blocks, which would mean lower payouts.  Slush is score based, which means your rewards will always vary based on the pool's luck.  30% less payout in a 24-48 hour period is very possible with bad luck, especially if you're comparing it to a few days that had good luck which makes the difference more exaggerated.

Good or bad luck matters? From what I seen, there are blocks that take the same time to find, but 30% less payout?
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1007
Have any of you miners at slush noticed a significant decrease in BTC reward in the last day?

Or is this due to pool hoppers?
^

i noticed this, too
about 30% less payout.

I hope it gets figured out. I don't want to jump to another pool either, as waiting for the blocks to be confirmed takes nearly 4 days on slush's.

Slush's rewards confirm after 100 blocks, which is less than 24 hours.  Where are you getting 4 days from?

Looking at recent blocks, you can see quite a few 4/5 hour blocks, which would mean lower payouts.  Slush is score based, which means your rewards will always vary based on the pool's luck.  30% less payout in a 24-48 hour period is very possible with bad luck, especially if you're comparing it to a few days that had good luck which makes the difference more exaggerated.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 502
Have any of you miners at slush noticed a significant decrease in BTC reward in the last day?

Or is this due to pool hoppers?
^

i noticed this, too
about 30% less payout.

I hope it gets figured out. I don't want to jump to another pool either, as waiting for the blocks to be confirmed takes nearly 4 days on slush's.
full member
Activity: 143
Merit: 100
Have any of you miners at slush noticed a significant decrease in BTC reward in the last day?

Or is this due to pool hoppers?
^

i noticed this, too
about 30% less payout.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 502
Have any of you miners at slush noticed a significant decrease in BTC reward in the last day?

Or is this due to pool hoppers?
full member
Activity: 143
Merit: 100
I'm planning to add some facebook widget instead of current news bar on the left side, so even people without a FB profile will see major news. I agree that it's necessary to see important updates directly on the website.

If you need any help, with facebook or your pool website message me, i'm lead programmer of a social media company in germany.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1097
facebook page for recent updates and news? i hate facebook. i would rather get updates and news here pls

I'm planning to add some facebook widget instead of current news bar on the left side, so even people without a FB profile will see major news. I agree that it's necessary to see important updates directly on the website.

I picked FB, because almost everybody have or can have an account, and it is probably to easiest way for the people to give me the feedback. Many people also have problems writing here because of rules for newcomers. Generally I think FB is pretty good tool for building a community, but of course you don't need to register on FB to use the pool :-).
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