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legendary
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November 09, 2014, 06:30:03 PM
#28
Liftoff?

Not yet..  Just getting ready.
donator
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
November 09, 2014, 06:11:53 PM
#27
Liftoff?
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
October 20, 2014, 05:26:10 PM
#26
Feel free to post your arguments for or against a massive end of the year rally.

My argument against it: The USD rally will probably continue after retracing the move from 80 to 86 (on the USD index).

A strong USD means a strong CNY and weaker oil, gold and BTC.

those fiat bubbles can't last though.

Inflation of bitcoin is still quite high, because of the amount of bitcoins generated every day is high relative to the amount of bitcoin in existence. And with mining profitability being so low currently, many miners may be forced to sell most or all of their mined coins right away in order to pay their power bills. Not to mention early adopters probably still buying stuff at the many new merchants that are available, which will immediately sell off their bitcoin. So the selling pressure is enormous right now, and that's not a bad thing per se, but it's just hard for the demand to catch up to it at this point in time.

However, the recent jump in price and increase in volume shows that there is in fact interest in bitcoin and it may be reaching the point where demand outgrows supply for a while.

I hung on to this argument for awhile, but it increasingly looks like November 2014 will break the streak.  I am surprised, I thought we would move up after the US Marshall's sale of the silk road coins, but it has pretty much been a straight line decline since then.

Even if I believe the whole Chinese exchanges manufacturing balances theory, it still undermines bitcoin in a very important way, i.e. the number of coins are not fixed, they are the amount extant plus whatever the Chinese exchanges can convince people they have.

Maybe 2015?

people should stick to the "if i'm not the sole owner of the private key, it's not my bitcoin" more. It's the only way to avoid fractional reserve practice and that is one of the reasons why bitcoin is valuable.

Fractional reserve kills currency.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
October 20, 2014, 05:15:21 PM
#25
I hung on to this argument for awhile, but it increasingly looks like November 2014 will break the streak.  I am surprised, I thought we would move up after the US Marshall's sale of the silk road coins, but it has pretty much been a straight line decline since then.

Even if I believe the whole Chinese exchanges manufacturing balances theory, it still undermines bitcoin in a very important way, i.e. the number of coins are not fixed, they are the amount extant plus whatever the Chinese exchanges can convince people they have.

Maybe 2015?
donator
Activity: 4760
Merit: 4323
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 20, 2014, 05:05:08 PM
#24
20 days until liftoff?   Huh
legendary
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Merit: 1000
October 03, 2014, 02:23:48 AM
#23
As of this posting, the distribution of votes is perfectly symmetrical! It seems I don't know is the most popular answer, as it should be  Wink

And to answer the OP, I think price is significantly behind new infrastructure, businesses, investment, and use cases for Bitcoin that have developed since the last bubble. Not sure about 40 days, but I would guess the bottom is near.

agreed I dont think we will break $340..... if we do though i will start to get worried. As someone who has lived though a few rises, it always surprises you with its suddenness and speed.

Still think we will hit new ATH by the end of the year.

Even the permabulls don't expect to see an ATH this year!
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1001
October 02, 2014, 01:33:47 PM
#22
As of this posting, the distribution of votes is perfectly symmetrical! It seems I don't know is the most popular answer, as it should be  Wink

And to answer the OP, I think price is significantly behind new infrastructure, businesses, investment, and use cases for Bitcoin that have developed since the last bubble. Not sure about 40 days, but I would guess the bottom is near.

agreed I dont think we will break $340..... if we do though i will start to get worried. As someone who has lived though a few rises, it always surprises you with its suddenness and speed.

Still think we will hit new ATH by the end of the year.

3 months to the end of the year. I still think that January 1st 2014 will be significantly lower than January 1st 2014. At about 1/4 of the price...
sr. member
Activity: 541
Merit: 362
Rules not Rulers
October 02, 2014, 01:40:21 AM
#21
As of this posting, the distribution of votes is perfectly symmetrical! It seems I don't know is the most popular answer, as it should be  Wink

And to answer the OP, I think price is significantly behind new infrastructure, businesses, investment, and use cases for Bitcoin that have developed since the last bubble. Not sure about 40 days, but I would guess the bottom is near.

agreed I dont think we will break $340..... if we do though i will start to get worried. As someone who has lived though a few rises, it always surprises you with its suddenness and speed.

Still think we will hit new ATH by the end of the year.
hero member
Activity: 715
Merit: 500
October 02, 2014, 12:47:49 AM
#20
As of this posting, the distribution of votes is perfectly symmetrical! It seems I don't know is the most popular answer, as it should be  Wink

And to answer the OP, I think price is significantly behind new infrastructure, businesses, investment, and use cases for Bitcoin that have developed since the last bubble. Not sure about 40 days, but I would guess the bottom is near.
fa
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
October 02, 2014, 12:42:32 AM
#19
Mostly "I don't know" indicates people are lack of conficence right now. The price might still go down.  Undecided Embarrassed
newbie
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Merit: 0
October 01, 2014, 11:09:10 PM
#18
Feel free to post your arguments for or against a massive end of the year rally.

My argument against it: The USD rally will probably continue after retracing the move from 80 to 86 (on the USD index).

A strong USD means a strong CNY and weaker oil, gold and BTC.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
October 01, 2014, 10:03:32 PM
#17
lmao @ bell curve

First thing I noticed too, pretty nice.

Also to the one who said many people expect a rally, but no one is buying. No one of them is buying because they already have bought all they can afford. The adoption has to come from outside the bitcoin system. And judging by the charts, there are new people adopting bitcoin every day. Adoption is happening, it's just not yet enough to battle the selloff from miners and merchants.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
October 01, 2014, 04:05:19 PM
#16
I hope your right. Ive given up on trying to figure out what bitcoin is going to do. Im a hodler and thats about it. Most of my coins were mined, so the only cost is electricity, so who knows what my "buy in" cost is, it should be pretty low. My only regret is not selling more near the ATH. Well, at least i was able to take advantage of it..

Lets hope this fall and winter is good for btc...
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001
October 01, 2014, 04:01:59 PM
#15
Feel free to post your arguments for or against a massive end of the year rally.

The past has nothing to do with the future.

-B-
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
October 01, 2014, 01:24:30 PM
#14
A bunch of anonymous forum posters are telling us bitcoin is dead again.  Time to dump our coins  Roll Eyes
legendary
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Merit: 1000
dafar consulting
October 01, 2014, 12:38:47 PM
#13
I am still holding my bitcoins. I think at the end of the year we will see new all time high (ATH) and much more. I am pretty sure 40 days enough for lift off. Under 400$ is still good opportunity.

I'll bet you 1BTC that we won't see a new ATH by the end of the year.



Sorry guys, but this is the first year where you will not profit from holding BTC... all "patterns" you guys are relying on will be broken, and it started with the bullshit 123 day bubble cycle.


Bitcoin is never predictable. You want to become rich off BTC? Stop acting like you know what will happen, and stop following the charts. Maybe we'll see the next ATH after the 2016 block halving... but to expect one before the end of the year is ludicrous
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1186
October 01, 2014, 11:45:06 AM
#12
I chose probably because I'm hopeful, but I wouldn't be surprised if we broke the 12 month rule.
A ton of new money will need to enter the exchanges for the price to rise.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
World Class Cryptonaire
October 01, 2014, 01:11:07 AM
#11
My counterargument for a rally is that too many people expect a massive one, but nobody really buys.

BUT all the weak hands have already sold and when the price rises they will be bringing the fiat back + more coins are in the hands of holders now.
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
September 30, 2014, 11:56:20 AM
#10
lmao @ bell curve
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1024
September 30, 2014, 10:38:18 AM
#9
One of the things often touted about Bitcoin is that everyone who has held it for one year has seen a profit regardless of when they bought.  With the declines we've seen over the last 10 months, that statement is in danger of no longer being accurate.  This is in spite of wave after wave of good news and increased adoption.  As others have recently pointed out, mining profitability is currently extremely low, reminding some of us of the December 2011 time period.  Is the rubber band about to snap, or are we about to commence liftoff?

Feel free to post your arguments for or against a massive end of the year rally.

A massive rally near year end seems unrealistic to me. We must enter a stabilization / bottom phase first. I think we are very close to capitulation that will mark the start for the stabilization phase. By stabilization I mean a slow rise up to the $600 level. I expect that the stabilization phase will take at least a year.

So from my point of view, more patience is needed. But after that I expect a big rise that will reward the wait.

ya.ya.yo!
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