40 nm ASIC coming, designed by those claiming to be behind the scene of Avalon - page 2.

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Quote from: goxed on July 09, 2013, 02:33:28 PM

Quote from: brucesewell on July 09, 2013, 11:52:31 AM

You guys should really take a look at those photos.

Now a new team claims that they will be designing 40 nm ASIC chips. They even claim that Yifu outsourced the design of Avalon to them, with those photos:

http://www.btcman.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=4621&extra=page%3D1&page=4

So are these millions of chips manufactured 40nm node?

Shrink from 110nm to 40nm ? (Both are half nodes)
Its possible, but more interesting question is destination this chip. For new Avalon from batch 4 and next or some big customer ?

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Quote from: goxed on July 09, 2013, 02:36:11 PM

I meant small box contains 2600 chips. So big box has 6 small boxes. And 135 big boxes. So I guess total chips <= 2600 * 6 * 135 = 2,106,000

But there are only 24 cases, look at the cases you can see the x/24 on them in marker and on the stickers.

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Quote from: goxed on July 09, 2013, 02:33:28 PM

Quote from: brucesewell on July 09, 2013, 11:52:31 AM

You guys should really take a look at those photos.

Now a new team claims that they will be designing 40 nm ASIC chips. They even claim that Yifu outsourced the design of Avalon to them, with those photos:

http://www.btcman.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=4621&extra=page%3D1&page=4

So are these millions of chips manufactured 40nm node?

According to post #9:
"These are just the same pics as the current avalons, check the serial nums, I see no difference..:

BUT: If the airbill trace above is correct, then these photos were taken in the last two weeks.

Whether these chips are bound for machines yet to be assembled, or bound for chip sales, I can't believe YiFu can be happy about this information having become public.

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Quote from: krayzie32 on July 09, 2013, 02:30:33 PM

Quote from: goxed on July 09, 2013, 02:27:38 PM

Quote from: krayzie32 on July 09, 2013, 02:19:43 PM

Quote from: sasadjak on July 09, 2013, 01:58:47 PM

I do some research
On box is Air Waybill No: 871 5050 8076
http://www.track-shipments.com/track-trace.aspx?pref=AWB&awbno=87150508076]
From PVG (Shanghai Pudong International Airport) to HKG (Hong Kong)
Total 135 pieces.
If on each box QTY 7832 that is 135*7832= 1.057.320 chips.

That's 135 boxes inside those 24 cases. Since each case can hold up to 6 boxes, 6 times 24 cases is 144 boxes so some of those cases are not full cases. So if each box can hold up to 2600 chips that means there are 351,000 chips on that skid.

There are more than million chips :O. Each box holds 6 x 2600 = 15600 chips

And 15600 times 24 cases is................. 374,400 but since the tracking says 135 boxes I am willing to bet there are some cases with less than 6.

I meant small box contains 2600 chips. So big box has 6 small boxes. And 135 big boxes. So I guess total chips <= 2600 * 6 * 135 = 2,106,000

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Quote from: brucesewell on July 09, 2013, 11:52:31 AM

You guys should really take a look at those photos.

Now a new team claims that they will be designing 40 nm ASIC chips. They even claim that Yifu outsourced the design of Avalon to them, with those photos:

http://www.btcman.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=4621&extra=page%3D1&page=4

So are these millions of chips manufactured 40nm node?

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Quote from: goxed on July 09, 2013, 02:27:38 PM

Quote from: krayzie32 on July 09, 2013, 02:19:43 PM

Quote from: sasadjak on July 09, 2013, 01:58:47 PM

I do some research
On box is Air Waybill No: 871 5050 8076
http://www.track-shipments.com/track-trace.aspx?pref=AWB&awbno=87150508076]
From PVG (Shanghai Pudong International Airport) to HKG (Hong Kong)
Total 135 pieces.
If on each box QTY 7832 that is 135*7832= 1.057.320 chips.

That's 135 boxes inside those 24 cases. Since each case can hold up to 6 boxes, 6 times 24 cases is 144 boxes so some of those cases are not full cases. So if each box can hold up to 2600 chips that means there are 351,000 chips on that skid.

There are more than million chips :O. Each box holds 6 x 2600 = 15600 chips

And 15600 times 24 cases is................. 374,400 but since the tracking says 135 boxes I am willing to bet there are some cases with less than 6.

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Quote from: sasadjak on July 09, 2013, 01:58:47 PM

I do some research
On box is Air Waybill No: 871 5050 8076
http://www.track-shipments.com/track-trace.aspx?pref=AWB&awbno=87150508076]
From PVG (Shanghai Pudong International Airport) to HKG (Hong Kong)
Total 135 pieces.
If on each box QTY 7832 that is 135*7832= 1.057.320 chips.

BTW, the date on this tracking is June 25th, so the "Batch 1" theory is kaput.

On the other hand, if the chips sales aren't due to start until September as someone said, what the hell are they doing with a million chips (or 300,000, but whatever the right math is: a buttload of chips) in Shenzen or at least at HKG?

This story keeps running hot and cold, and then hot again. Very interesting...

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Quote from: krayzie32 on July 09, 2013, 02:19:43 PM

Quote from: sasadjak on July 09, 2013, 01:58:47 PM

I do some research
On box is Air Waybill No: 871 5050 8076
http://www.track-shipments.com/track-trace.aspx?pref=AWB&awbno=87150508076]
From PVG (Shanghai Pudong International Airport) to HKG (Hong Kong)
Total 135 pieces.
If on each box QTY 7832 that is 135*7832= 1.057.320 chips.

That's 135 boxes inside those 24 cases. Since each case can hold up to 6 boxes, 6 times 24 cases is 144 boxes so some of those cases are not full cases. So if each box can hold up to 2600 chips that means there are 351,000 chips on that skid.

There are more than million chips :O. Each box holds 6 x 2600 = 15600 chips

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Quote from: sasadjak on July 09, 2013, 01:58:47 PM

I do some research
On box is Air Waybill No: 871 5050 8076
http://www.track-shipments.com/track-trace.aspx?pref=AWB&awbno=87150508076]
From PVG (Shanghai Pudong International Airport) to HKG (Hong Kong)
Total 135 pieces.
If on each box QTY 7832 that is 135*7832= 1.057.320 chips.

That's 135 boxes inside those 24 cases. Since each case can hold up to 6 boxes, 6 times 24 cases is 144 boxes so some of those cases are not full cases. So if each box can hold up to 2600 chips that means there are 351,000 chips on that skid.

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I do some research
On box is Air Waybill No: 871 5050 8076
http://www.track-shipments.com/track-trace.aspx?pref=AWB&awbno=87150508076]
From PVG (Shanghai Pudong International Airport) to HKG (Hong Kong)
Total 135 pieces.
If on each box QTY 7832 that is 135*7832= 1.057.320 chips.

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This thread is even more murky than the one yesterday, where this btcman situation first resurfaced.

Combining the translations there with these photos of Avalon chips, (which could be as old as Batch 1, right?) I'm going to put this back in the FUD/BS category again.

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on July 09, 2013, 01:09:39 PM

So does this mean Avalon's bulk chip orders are good to go?

I would say not, note the shipping labels on the large boxes, they say HongKong, so likely these have been shipped from Taiwan to HongKong and onto Shenzhen to be made into AVALON units. These are typical of the type of photos that a Quality Control Inspector from AVALON would take at TSMC during Final inspection Ex-Works or possibly by Chinese Customs and Excise on arrival in China. I would take a stab at the former. Shame there are no dates to be seen on the packaging.

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So does this mean Avalon's bulk chip orders are good to go?

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The hijacking in this thread is soooo big!

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These are just the same pics as the current avalons, check the serial nums, I see no difference..

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Quote from: trigeek on July 09, 2013, 12:23:19 PM

Since I'm a nice guy:

Whole album, with translated captions:
http://imgur.com/a/GR0e3

You are a gentleman and scholar! Thank you.

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24 big box * 6 smal box * 2600 = 374.400 avalon chips = 100 TH

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That is a really excited news for some teams

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Where we able to order from them?

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Since I'm a nice guy:

Whole album, with translated captions:
http://imgur.com/a/GR0e3

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