The ethical issue aside, what would the Thai police charge them with? Would this be considered cybercrime under Thai law? Coz after all, this is not a cybersex den, nor even an illegal online casino. And they're not technically scamming anyone, they were "hired" by business to simply like posts. 
Topic: 400,000 SIM card Chinese 'click farm' busted in Thailand (Read 1117 times)
What would you expect, merch gonna merch. The ethical issue aside, what would the Thai police charge them with? Would this be considered cybercrime under Thai law? Coz after all, this is not a cybersex den, nor even an illegal online casino. And they're not technically scamming anyone, they were "hired" by business to simply like posts.
The ethical issue aside, what would the Thai police charge them with? Would this be considered cybercrime under Thai law? Coz after all, this is not a cybersex den, nor even an illegal online casino. And they're not technically scamming anyone, they were "hired" by business to simply like posts. global moderator
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I wonder how long it is till some sweatshop gets busted with people shitposting here on bitcointalk with their hundreds of accounts 
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You don't need anything in the UK. In fact, some providers will give you them for free because they want your business. There's also the black market.
. How did they managed to purchase 400,000 SIM cards? In my country, it is very tough to get a SIM card. You need to show your ID cards. And if there are more than 4-5 cards issued against your name, then usually the cops will appear at your doorstep. How these guys managed to get 400,000?
You don't need anything in the UK. In fact, some providers will give you them for free because they want your business. There's also the black market.
Whether the activities they are doing are illegal,
I think logically that the activity is a form of organized fraud, where they do a lie to users of social media and online shopping.
Where the online shop has many of its users and trusted, by paying the services of companies like fake follower, this form of virtual crime that must be eliminated.
I think logically that the activity is a form of organized fraud, where they do a lie to users of social media and online shopping.
Where the online shop has many of its users and trusted, by paying the services of companies like fake follower, this form of virtual crime that must be eliminated.
Yes, SIM cards are just around 20 pennies a piece here in the Philippines and retailers are not required to take customer information before they sell them.
That is quite weird. In most of the countries, strict ID verification is required before you can purchase the SIM cards. That is why in the dark market sites such as Alphabay, the SIM cards are in high demand.
Yup, quite weird no? Maybe it's the effect of having a large informal sector. I don't think that even with regulations, that people would be able to stop buying SIMs anonymously. They can just buy SIMs from individuals that have theirs before new regulations are implemented.
IMHO the only way to go is for everyone to be postpaid, with the SIMs imbedded in the phones. That way, you can just arrest anyone trying to sell SIMs.
Sim cards can be deactivated by the provider with one button.
In industry nations it is standard for a while now that you can only register a simcard with your ID.
The old sim cards only work until a certain date.
Reasons are counter terrorism and organized crime.
The asshole politicians in my shithole third world country are taking their time. Funny is that they'd cut off signal during certain festivals to prevent phone detonated bombs but can't pass a legislation requiring people to at least show an ID when buying SIMs. Congress need to be bombed just for them to actually do anything.
Yes, SIM cards are just around 20 pennies a piece here in the Philippines and retailers are not required to take customer information before they sell them.
That is quite weird. In most of the countries, strict ID verification is required before you can purchase the SIM cards. That is why in the dark market sites such as Alphabay, the SIM cards are in high demand.
Yup, quite weird no? Maybe it's the effect of having a large informal sector. I don't think that even with regulations, that people would be able to stop buying SIMs anonymously. They can just buy SIMs from individuals that have theirs before new regulations are implemented.
IMHO the only way to go is for everyone to be postpaid, with the SIMs imbedded in the phones. That way, you can just arrest anyone trying to sell SIMs.
Sim cards can be deactivated by the provider with one button.
In industry nations it is standard for a while now that you can only register a simcard with your ID.
The old sim cards only work until a certain date.
Reasons are counter terrorism and organized crime.
Yes, SIM cards are just around 20 pennies a piece here in the Philippines and retailers are not required to take customer information before they sell them.
That is quite weird. In most of the countries, strict ID verification is required before you can purchase the SIM cards. That is why in the dark market sites such as Alphabay, the SIM cards are in high demand.
Yup, quite weird no? Maybe it's the effect of having a large informal sector. I don't think that even with regulations, that people would be able to stop buying SIMs anonymously. They can just buy SIMs from individuals that have theirs before new regulations are implemented.
IMHO the only way to go is for everyone to be postpaid, with the SIMs imbedded in the phones. That way, you can just arrest anyone trying to sell SIMs.
These kind of things are also known as sim box fraud in my country, the perpetrators scams the local service providers and get profits from foreign calls and you will think you are receiving a local call.
How did they managed to purchase 400,000 SIM cards? In my country, it is very tough to get a SIM card. You need to show your ID cards. And if there are more than 4-5 cards issued against your name, then usually the cops will appear at your doorstep. How these guys managed to get 400,000?
Depends on the country some vendors just sell them on the street and you can buy as many as you want, but I guess it really depends on the country social media generating likes I guess is a good way to build reputation unless you get caught doing it of course ^^.
The question is how do you use that many sim cards between three people ... it would take a while in my opinion nice investment into the future though.
Yes, SIM cards are just around 20 pennies a piece here in the Philippines and retailers are not required to take customer information before they sell them.
That is quite weird. In most of the countries, strict ID verification is required before you can purchase the SIM cards. That is why in the dark market sites such as Alphabay, the SIM cards are in high demand.
I've been hearing about Chinese Like farms before though this is the first article I've actually read about this. I don't think this is that popular in my country. Paid troll are though, especially during elections. I've seen a documentary of it. And of course cybersex cams. If there are any illegal online casinos, it's usually operated by foreigners, mostly the Chinese from the mainland.
Yes, SIM cards are just around 20 pennies a piece here in the Philippines and retailers are not required to take customer information before they sell them. Heck, sometimes they even give them for free. It's also unlikely everyone here will transition to postpaid, which would be easier to track after getting a court order.
There has been several push for more regulation but so far the bills just languish in congress.
How did they managed to purchase 400,000 SIM cards? In my country, it is very tough to get a SIM card. You need to show your ID cards. And if there are more than 4-5 cards issued against your name, then usually the cops will appear at your doorstep. How these guys managed to get 400,000?
I thought of that one too, but I guess Thailand does not regulate use of prepaid sim cards just like here in the Philippines where you can buy sim cards at any store with out the need of an identification card, it's like buying candy from a store. I remember planning to buy a prepaid sim in a 7-11 store in Singapore and they asked me to show my passport, I backed out.Yes, SIM cards are just around 20 pennies a piece here in the Philippines and retailers are not required to take customer information before they sell them. Heck, sometimes they even give them for free. It's also unlikely everyone here will transition to postpaid, which would be easier to track after getting a court order.
There has been several push for more regulation but so far the bills just languish in congress.
Thats why every country should implement strict laws regarding illegal aliens.
I don't think that they were illegal aliens. They were legal residents with all the required paper-work. Moreover, Thailand grants visa on arrival for the Chinese nationals. Strict visa rules can negatively affect tourism and business. I would say that having a liberal visa regime is more beneficial, as it brings in a lot of revenue and create new jobs.
Thats why every country should implement strict laws regarding illegal aliens. Because no wonder how they get in the Philippines is because of weak implementation and monitoring. Philippines now is becoming getaway country of different types of criminals hoping the current administration will do something about this.
How did they managed to purchase 400,000 SIM cards? In my country, it is very tough to get a SIM card. You need to show your ID cards. And if there are more than 4-5 cards issued against your name, then usually the cops will appear at your doorstep. How these guys managed to get 400,000?
I thought of that one too, but I guess Thailand does not regulate use of prepaid sim cards just like here in the Philippines where you can buy sim cards at any store with out the need of an identification card, it's like buying candy from a store. I remember planning to buy a prepaid sim in a 7-11 store in Singapore and they asked me to show my passport, I backed out.You see? Almost a Euro per simcard. Would one pay 400,000 Euros to start this farm in some unforesaken place just for corporations to "LIKE" their own products?
Yes, because one card can be used multiple times, it's not like it expires after a month or a number of clicks
They were planning to run the operation for a long time. If they were doing it for 12h a day, it wasn't hard to earn a couple hundred € a day and keep going for a few years, and in Asia you can get these cards much cheaper. Also, what they were doing wasn't totally illegal and the proof of that is in the charges. If they really had grounds to bust them they wouldn't charge the perpetrators with working without work permits, would they? A sim card in the Philippines is worth 50 PHP - lowest price - 400,000 sim cards thats tens of millions of pesos. Is that even worth a beef. I mean how much will you earn from having a click farm just for likes and posts. Geesh. World's getting crazy!!
Click farms are very profitable businesses. A single click can be worth anywhere between $0.04 and $0.25 (these are the typical rates being paid by Google Adsense. Others pay somewhat less). And using a single SIM, you can do clicks several times every minute.
Yeah can confirm in many countries its dead easy to buy a new pay-as-you-go simcard with no ID. No resources to enforce it. Funny story.
How did they managed to purchase 400,000 SIM cards? In my country, it is very tough to get a SIM card. You need to show your ID cards. And if there are more than 4-5 cards issued against your name, then usually the cops will appear at your doorstep. How these guys managed to get 400,000?
I thought of that one too, but I guess Thailand does not regulate use of prepaid sim cards just like here in the Philippines where you can buy sim cards at any store with out the need of an identification card, it's like buying candy from a store. I remember planning to buy a prepaid sim in a 7-11 store in Singapore and they asked me to show my passport, I backed out.
How did they managed to purchase 400,000 SIM cards? In my country, it is very tough to get a SIM card. You need to show your ID cards. And if there are more than 4-5 cards issued against your name, then usually the cops will appear at your doorstep. How these guys managed to get 400,000?
A sim card in the Philippines is worth 50 PHP - lowest price - 400,000 sim cards thats tens of millions of pesos. Is that even worth a beef. I mean how much will you earn from having a click farm just for likes and posts. Geesh. World's getting crazy!!
How did they managed to purchase 400,000 SIM cards? In my country, it is very tough to get a SIM card. You need to show your ID cards. And if there are more than 4-5 cards issued against your name, then usually the cops will appear at your doorstep. How these guys managed to get 400,000?
I thought of that one too, but I guess Thailand does not regulate use of prepaid sim cards just like here in the Philippines where you can buy sim cards at any store with out the need of an identification card, it's like buying candy from a store. I remember planning to buy a prepaid sim in a 7-11 store in Singapore and they asked me to show my passport, I backed out.How did they managed to purchase 400,000 SIM cards? In my country, it is very tough to get a SIM card. You need to show your ID cards. And if there are more than 4-5 cards issued against your name, then usually the cops will appear at your doorstep. How these guys managed to get 400,000?
I didn't fully read the story, but is there a direct Bitcoin reference there? I am not complaining, the forum politics and society thread works for this, but I was curious if I had missed something about Bitcoin in the mix, perhaps the payouts from the clicks were done in Bitcoin or something.
How did they managed to purchase 400,000 SIM cards? In my country, it is very tough to get a SIM card. You need to show your ID cards. And if there are more than 4-5 cards issued against your name, then usually the cops will appear at your doorstep. How these guys managed to get 400,000?
I didn't fully read the story, but is there a direct Bitcoin reference there? I am not complaining, the forum politics and society thread works for this, but I was curious if I had missed something about Bitcoin in the mix, perhaps the payouts from the clicks were done in Bitcoin or something.
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