Topic: 44% of the network already switched to 8M blocks (Read 3555 times)

I hope people realize a vote for 8mb isnt a vote for XT its a vote for core devs to update core.

Maybe most nodes are still syncing the blockchain? (for the ones that didn't run a full node before atleast and want to have a vote). I guess we will see a lot more XT nodes by the end of the week.

Put another way, perfect is the enemy of the good.

Total nodes there is what ? the Bitcoin-qt nodes or all nodes including XT nodes with them

Are you referring to bitcoin nodes?  http://xtnodes.com/

IS there a website where we can look at the percentage of the network between QT and XT?

That's old and outdated stuff, before Bitcoin-XT came out with its consensus protocol built in. This fork will occur only when over 75% of the network is already running a Bitcoin-XT node for more than 2 weeks, so by then there's already a big majority force behind the fork. The actual percentage at the time of the fork will probably be closer to 90% or more at this point since the undecided or unwilling minority will be heavily incentivized to switch over as well and go with the rest. Before this fork even actually happens everyone is already prepared for it, except a few die hard 1MB block lovers and some BTC haters who just want to stir the pot. Their fate at this point will have already been sealed though, and they know it so they are making a lot of noise now. So the above is basically just an attempt to scare people into not running a node like Bitcoin-XT so they won't ever reach the needed 75% for a fork in the first place. I've been sitting on the fence in this whole discussion until now, but I have to admit I'm now really considering running a Bitcoin-XT node myself and cast my own vote this way. I was already convinced we need bigger blocks, I've just been waiting for the whole discussion to flesh out a bit more in case I had overseen certain things.

Don't spend your BTC on the XT chain.  If your SatoshiCoins are tainted with Gavincoins and you try to spend them, catastrophic consensus failure may occur, and you will lose them.

http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/

As far as I understand Bitcoin core BTC are the same as XT BTC until XT pushes its first block larger than 1MB.  At that point XT BTC are different than core BTC.  Whichever chain grows faster becomes the valid chain and valid BTC.  Your SPV wallet compatibility depends on whether the SPV server you're using is using XT or core.

Unlike previous forks where political consensus was achieved, this fork is guaranteed to result in conflict – the Great Blockchain Civil War starts. MPEx and others will refuse to accept any outputs contained in the Giga-blockchain, MPEx will also begin to actively attack it:

    mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if one block's large and the other small, all i need a tx that's included in the large block but not the small one. then doublespend it on the small one, which will be rejected necessarily by the large block blockchain

    mircea_popescu: now i have bitcoin separated in two addresses, one for each chain.

    mircea_popescu: the attempt may fail, but the cost to me of this failure is not significant, so i can keep on trying until it succeeds.

    mircea_popescu: the only way to guard against it is, obviously,for the ."large" chain to maintain 1:1 identity with the "small" one. because you don't just fork bitcoin.,

    ben_vulpes: i still fail to see how you're going to make a txn that gets included in the large block chain and not the small block chain.

    artifexd: ben_vulpes: You don't. You keep sending money to yourself until it happens.

    mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes what do you mean ? it necessarily will occur.

    mircea_popescu: since one contains more txn than the other by definition.

    mircea_popescu: suppose i make 50k 1btc txn. they don't fit in a 1mn block. they do fit in a 10mb block. what now ?

As the Giga-blockchain and main-blockchain continue to grow from the fork, those actively attacking the Giga-Blockchain will create many transactions that allow their main-blockchain coins to duplicate over to the Giga-blockchain while remaining safely on the main-blockchain. The transactions that succeed can then be used to acquire more main-blockchain coins upon which the cycle repeats. Eventually the blockchain with the most financial resources behind it will continue to grow at a faster pace, while the other slowly, and eventually stops growing altogether.

It will be impossible for the Giga-chain to keep 1:1 parity with the main chain from which it forks, they contain different transaction, although some may overlap

There's one more requirement I believe before the hardfork would happen, and that's that the actual size of blocks should be >1MB. In this thread there's only a vote going on among miners, not a vote on supporting BitcoinXT and definitely not that 44% has already switched to 8M blocks. The OP is spreading lies on purpose to further his anti-BTC agenda, just like the others who agree with him.

Yes

Requirements:

- date>2016
- consensus > 75%
- above two should remain for 2 weeks

Then bigger blocks are allowed.

After many miners discover that, they will just leave antpool