Topic: 5000$ REWARD FOR FINDING OWNER OF BTC ADRESS - page 2. (Read 730 times)

Normally finding a scammer out of new wallets are slim to none like Mocanino said already here but this case is a bit different. I am very much sure where you will be able to get good information if you do things right.


I am gonna use this post of DdmrDdmr to continue. The bitcoin address used here 1E3WStENAFUHj8rPpX6FTpS4KwHKZVFK3m receives around 3.8 BTC via txid: https://btc.com/btc/transaction/7205197883218a6615ee6c014781b5a483893b77287423bfa99f5c78279bcf9a  from just before transferring to victim here which uses inputs from address 1NDyJtNTjmwk5xPNhjgAMu4HDHigtobu1s . After the scammer sends and then nullifies the transaction by doing the rbf he sends back the amount to 16ZbnaPXxwVkWsHeAxcRtnCBccr35tuWAc. Now 16ZbnaPXxwVkWsHeAxcRtnCBccr35tuWAc sends back the amount to 129UStX6iT1TCiFhtar2XEuT73ZBbGjCyG which sends back the amount to 1NDyJtNTjmwk5xPNhjgAMu4HDHigtobu1s via this txid: https://btc.com/btc/transaction/c66c74de8c4a130b41d1339d1247dbbae4876bf855e79e25c1c7b13d8973cba1.

The address I have underlined here : 1NDyJtNTjmwk5xPNhjgAMu4HDHigtobu1s is the hot wallet of Binance (Proof: https://twitter.com/binance/status/961666467325358081) and here is what I think. The scammer made a withdrawal from his account at binance to 1E3WStENAFUHj8rPpX6FTpS4KwHKZVFK3m prior to transaction. He made the scam and then sent it back to Binance where he desposited to his deposit address: 129UStX6iT1TCiFhtar2XEuT73ZBbGjCyG.

Now I went through their blog about their KYC (https://www.binance.com/en/blog/421499824684902130/%E2%80%8BWhat-is-KYC-and-How-Is-it-Increasingly-Important-for-Crypto) and it seems like there is a level of account where they don't need KYC but in that case they have the limit that they will allow daily withdrawal of 0.06 BTC max but since the scammer makes a withdrawal to 1E3WStENAFUHj8rPpX6FTpS4KwHKZVFK3m with amount of 3.8 BTC , he had to submit his details at the exchange in order to push the level for big trades or make withdrawals.

Now all you need to do is to contact Binance and provide them with the transactions that made withdrawal to 1E3WStENAFUHj8rPpX6FTpS4KwHKZVFK3m which is https://btc.com/btc/transaction/7205197883218a6615ee6c014781b5a483893b77287423bfa99f5c78279bcf9a and transaction that was made to deposit back to 129UStX6iT1TCiFhtar2XEuT73ZBbGjCyG which is https://btc.com/btc/transaction/c66c74de8c4a130b41d1339d1247dbbae4876bf855e79e25c1c7b13d8973cba1 and ask them how to take steps in order to catch the scammer. I am sure Binance would be happy to help you out. I don't recall very clearly but I think in a case earlier they tried to help someone like this who was victim to a scam.

@Oskarb123 Can you tell us how did you pay this guy for Bitcoins you purchased before? Maybe that is the key for finding him and his real identity.
Connecting that with his phone number used for telegram can help catching him, but you can also hire some blockchain analytics firms (CipherTrace, Elliptic, etc) to do some deep research and pay them percentage of Bitcoin they manage to recover.

When doing trading with someone using Bitcoin you should always double check and wait for at least one confirmation before sealing the deal.

This transaction was done exactly 2 weeks ago and nothing change until that day.

If someone wants personal phone number to this guy you can write to me in private message through contact info that I provided.

Anyone can do use RBF but only on supported wallet and has enable RBF before made the transaction, if he didn't enable the RBF then he can't use RBF. You need to wait until 1 confirmation or 3 confirmations if you want to be safe, since RBF can't be used after some confirmations.

If your transaction is stuck and no confirmation, your funds will be back after 2 weeks.

At least 1 confirmation is required in case of small amount of transaction while for big amount, you should give more time. A few confirmations are enough to ensure the irreversible tx. If you create two tx with same input at the same time, the one with higher fee will get confirmed. And in electrum mobile, the option has been included. You can anytime cancel (RBF actually) a tx as long as it is not confirmed and you can do it easily.

I understand this now. Thanks for the clarification but this means that anyone can use the "Replace by fee" and also change the destination address while doing so ?  This is not safe.  
This also means that seeing a tx on the blockchain does not grantee that the amount will be delivered to us  
Normally when doing transactions, we see the unconfirmed tx on the blockchain and know that it cannot be reversed. This is a strange and new learning for me .

You missed the whole part. OP was buying bitcoin, not selling. Scammer sent him the BTC with low and later used a double spending since OP thought the BTC was on the way. A very silly mistake from OP.

@OP
Which payment method did you use? Any info you know about him must be shared here. May be you know the telegram username, or any other info. Please update on the OP.

So was this the case the in previous transactions you send him less amount of money (bitcoins) and then when you got 100% trust on him, you decided to send a big amount like 3 btc and he scamed you ? or you have send bigs amounts before to him without any issues ?

Most people know how it is to be scammed in their early crypto times. After that it's mostly pretty clear and you feel dumb, but it's quite "normal" I think.
Sure it depend on how you get scammed and how much.

My advice is really to give up the hope to get your money or item back - deal with it, lern from it and trust me u will be never get scammed again cause you have that bad experience and in future u will take money trasactions not so easy.

I was acquiring   bitcoins from this person for more than 6 months before this transaction everything was going well.
I didn’t need verification from it because I trusted this person but after this situation I Have very costly life lesson .

You spend around 3.7 btc which is not a small amount. Your Newbie rank here does not represent that you are new to crypto. Can you let us know for what purpose you send this big amount without any verification 

I'm trying not to victim-blame, but being scammed has little to do with the medium. My grandfather once told me a story about how he was scammed by a fake insurance salesman that took an equivalent of about 4000€ in cash, over 60 years ago that was a little more than a years's wage. My brother in law got scammed by door-to-door salesmen numerous times, they keep on selling him fake products for a premium price, and he keeps falling for it.
Our newspaper reports scams on a very regular basis, and it's very rare to see bitcoin to be the medium.

The main problem was the fact you used a medium you didn't fully understand to transfer a huge amount of money... Once again: it's the scammer's fault you lost your money, not yours, but saying things like crypto "not being as safe as they claim to be" isn't completely fair. Crypto is really safe. It is well documented how it works, and anybody who's giving out real information will tell you crypto currency's are irreversible and should not be sent to anonymous people you don't fully trust...
If you use it like it's supposed to be used, you should be fine... You should compare it to other irreversible payment methods... Would you have sent gold to an anonymous mailbox in nigeria if a scammer asked you to do this?

Now, it seems to be i was wrong... In the list of addresses you posted, i saw transactions of ~0.4 BTC (~$15k at current exchange rate), but apparently the one that was used to scam you was > 3 BTC. For this price, it might be a reasonable idear to hire a professional blockchain analysis company...

Thank you all for responds.
It means a lot to me that someone at least care and is trying to help.

I hope that I will be able to find someone who could help me to find this man or find different solution to get back my funds.

Before this transaction I was really passionate about all cryptocurrency transactions but now I see that it is not as safe as they claim to be.

I think that Blockchain should inform their clients that transaction can be cancelled even if receiver see money on his BTC wallet.

I tried to contact them reaching for help but they told me same things like you that once it was done it cannot be reversedd.

If you willing to spend 5k headbounty then I don't want to know how much money you get scammed.

Sry for that - but that's one on btc s features, anonym money transactions.

It wasn’t confirmed. You probably saw a pending to confirm TX, and asumed it was confirmed.

It looks like he generated a TX for 3,79 BTC, sent from 1E3WStENAFUHj8rPpX6FTpS4KwHKZVFK3m to bc1q63nu0dh3ak6saku7xfdts55g6q6jsg9vwzlvl9, on 2021-07-19 18:29, using a fee of 1.005 sat/B:

https://www.blockchain.com/es/btc/tx/3f93b071087c384703e5ebbdb2f0b007470c9774e07d18b25188ef6c40a02adf

But then used a Replace by Fee to resend the same amount, on 2021-07-19 18:36
,to 16ZbnaPXxwVkWsHeAxcRtnCBccr35tuWAc instead, paying 201.047 sat/B to ensure it was picked-up quick, thus nullifying the first TX:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/034a8f4f6b88575ef28b314c8c42dfef63cee43d3a002c86f82953005045735d

You said the hash was “3f93b071087c384703e5ebbdb2f0b007470c9774e07d18b25188ef6c40a02adf”, right? It doesn't seem to have been included into a block nor the mempool. Are you sure, that this is the correct txid? I'll not look into the posted addresses, just in case you've indeed make a mistake.

If the amounts were big, you shouldn't hope to identify him. The easiest way to get away of a scam is by using a mixer or by converting your BTC to XMR (and back again). The only entity that could help you is the cyber crime. In summary, internet providers keep the information they receive (for years). If you really, really want to know that person, you should talk to them; note that the odds to achieve it are close to zero. I don't know, though, if they can assist you in that case, whether you bribe them or not. 

Unfortunately we were from different countries.

We were communicating on telegram. I found his number somewhere in the internet but I can't find it again now.
This man was Romanian but he was operating in London and other UK cities.
I don't know in which direction I can go now.
After he scammed me he deleted for both parties conversation on telegram so he got rid of all evidences.
Since this moment he blocked me so I couldn't reach him.

I had no idea that after one confirmation he was able to cancel this transaction.
I could already view on my wallet that I had this funds available so I lost attention.

Where did you meet this person? Did you use some sort of P2P platform? If so, maybe you'll have better luck contacting that platform. I know that Paxful does give the user's IP address when you can prove that you got scammed. You can then use that with the local authorities (assuming that you're both from the same country) to get to him.

You could always try to follow the trail of unspent outputs trough tools like walletexplorer in the hopes your scammer deposits the funds he stole from you on a KYC exchange... There are company's that specialise in this sort of stuff, they have better analytical tools available to make it easyer for the to follow the trail...

However, if you're dealing with a scammer that has some experience, he'll either mix, coinjoin or move funds trough a coin like monero... The odds of anybody being able to follow this trail are slim to none.

Even if you're faced with a newbie scammer, or if a professional service is able to track the funds over some sort of obfuscation, you'll have to take legal action against him/her... This can be relatively easy if the scammer lives in your country, but if he doesn't it can potentially be a daunting task, one that might cost more than the ~15k you lost...

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/3682dea897df5df2?from_address=16EvVEgJGbYfYSnbQz3x57iPfw14GAPje8
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/3682dea897df5df2?from_address=1LteyFFkC362LwVbxMhMn9kC5pr2yTMsNr
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/3682dea897df5df2?from_address=bc1qrldtc9l5wn3dfma9gm3prw6hglwzenamfxjxdx
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/3682dea897df5df2?from_address=1E3WStENAFUHj8rPpX6FTpS4KwHKZVFK3m


One last thing: when talking about an $5000 reward, ALWAYS use a trusted forum escrow.
Not following this advice will either result in you being scammed out of another $5000, or you scamming your helper out of $5000.

First you should move this topic on the Services section since you are offering job. Second this is a very hard task considering no one attached identity on there Bitcoin address for ownership purposes. You will be very lucky if the guy do a sign message publicly in the Internet. Although the reward is so good and worthy a shot yet the job seems impossible to fulfill. Sorry for your loss.