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Quote from: nakamura12 on October 07, 2021, 12:54:23 PM

Quote from: mindrust on October 07, 2021, 10:15:35 AM

I'll call this bull shit.

Is it impossible? No. But it is almost impossible which means it is practically impossible.

Everybody can create an excel sheet and put random winning bets in it. It is not that hard.

Let the op share what op wants but I agree with you that the spreadsheet can be created unless op provided the real bet details on the site that op used instead of giving the spreadsheet shit. One more thing, it is not just 1 year but 3 years. It's not that simple to do but I can't believe with just the numbers on spreadsheet just as you said it coulr be random.

Let's say he really managed to make a million... He can only prove it if he shows us a screenshot of his bet history. I know that also can be forged but it is harder and we can verify this by contacting the casino. If he cannot do that, I say it didn't happen. If I was a I guy that made $1m out of $5k, I also wouldn't create a thread about it in the dark corners of btt. I would just enjoy my retirement.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on October 07, 2021, 12:54:23 PM

Quote from: mindrust on October 07, 2021, 10:15:35 AM

I'll call this bull shit.

Is it impossible? No. But it is almost impossible which means it is practically impossible.

Everybody can create an excel sheet and put random winning bets in it. It is not that hard.

Let the op share what op wants but I agree with you that the spreadsheet can be created unless op provided the real bet details on the site that op used instead of giving the spreadsheet shit. One more thing, it is not just 1 year but 3 years. It's not that simple to do but I can't believe with just the numbers on spreadsheet just as you said it coulr be random.

Showing off spreadsheet doesnt automatically counts as a legit one or could be real on what he's trying to prove on about making 5k to million in just 3 years.I agree that spreadsheet wont really be a sufficient proof
on this kind of milestone and would much more believable if he could post off on those bet slops or history on the site on which he do play and those history of bets to make it more legit
because claiming something like this wont really be that convincing which i do have the same views and perceptions on things too.

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Quote from: mindrust on October 07, 2021, 10:15:35 AM

I'll call this bull shit.

Is it impossible? No. But it is almost impossible which means it is practically impossible.

Everybody can create an excel sheet and put random winning bets in it. It is not that hard.

Let the op share what op wants but I agree with you that the spreadsheet can be created unless op provided the real bet details on the site that op used instead of giving the spreadsheet shit. One more thing, it is not just 1 year but 3 years. It's not that simple to do but I can't believe with just the numbers on spreadsheet just as you said it coulr be random.

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Quote from: bitcoinpunter on May 26, 2021, 06:32:05 PM

Only obstacle that you will run into is you will make enemies with books and majority of the books will limit your and shut you down. If you cannot get accounts in pinnacle and betcris/bookmaker you wont be able to get far as million.

So, you made million dollars from sportsbetting, but when I first see your topic, I thought you achieved that big mile stone through dicing or any other chance based gambling. Overall, I guess sportsbetting is something which helps you when you are skilled enough on picking right predictions even we do hear that match fixing are too common these days. I am just curious to know what are your favourite sports and how often you do gamble.

I guess these days we are having lots of platforms for sportsbetting hence I believe might get a chance to copy like you. I did not check your sheet due to limitations of bandwidth right now but I guess you must have re-used your profits to increase your bet amount so that you might have been quicker on your race toward millions rather than being sticking with only your original bankroll of $5k.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on October 06, 2021, 01:11:40 AM

Quote from: Dragonfund on October 05, 2021, 07:20:13 PM

Op is the kind of gambler that's very patient and not greedy else he/she might have loss all the total amount he has made in a single game, a living legend is Op.
To reach this kind of level, one must be willing to have all experience to deal with emotional and money management skills in handling every ticket.

OP is showing us big figures and it's not easy to reach that figure with that number of bets, before he reached that I'm sure that there's a lot of obstacles before he set up his own strategies, you have a chance in sports betting if you are well organized, good in time and money management, there's a big difference in relying on luck and developing a system and OP has succeeded that luck is on your side if you have perseverance.

but when we do as op did, of course this will take quite a long time besides that the capital required will be very large.
and not necessarily the results achieved will be the same as what the OP did, because indeed everything comes back to the luck factor too. and there is no guarantee if we do the same thing as op will get the same result anyway.
but on the other hand what the OP does deserves to be appreciated because he patiently carries out what he does and of course with very large capital of course.

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Quote from: mindrust on October 07, 2021, 10:15:35 AM

I'll call this bull shit.

Is it impossible? No. But it is almost impossible which means it is practically impossible.

Everybody can create an excel sheet and put random winning bets in it. It is not that hard.

You have a point I hope OP is not taking us for a ride, he should provide more details like a screenshot of his winnings and deposit screenshots spreadsheets is easy to create he can put anything on it, if what's on a spreadsheet is real then he should back it with solid proof, I hate it when newbies coming here bragging without showing us proof or details on how he wins and how much he wins.

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I'll call this bull shit.

Is it impossible? No. But it is almost impossible which means it is practically impossible.

Everybody can create an excel sheet and put random winning bets in it. It is not that hard.

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Quote from: bitcoinpunter on May 26, 2021, 06:32:05 PM

I posted regarding this before back in 2018. Many said couldn't be done but i followed the methodology and the picks religiously and here we are. Spreadsheet shows all the picks in the log sheet and the dashboard shows the summary. Settings sheet has details on the money management. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15CSvrT3osJos4P-Fni102v5fvZqaqm8Q/edit#gid=644533306 Only obstacle that you will run into is you will make enemies with books and majority of the books will limit your and shut you down. If you cannot get accounts in pinnacle and betcris/bookmaker you wont be able to get far as million.

Wait a minute, this may be a bit misleading especially for an inexperienced gambler. This also might spread false information about gambling that it gives false hope and assurance that they will win $1 million dollars in 2000 bets.

Remember that there is no absolute rule or formula that can be above the odds. Even if the probability or chances may be leaning on your favor, even if the success rate is 80-99%, there is always that chance that one might fail. Be careful for people who would follow this spreadsheet. Rather than treating it as an absolute rule, use it as a general guide that will support you on your bets.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on October 07, 2021, 08:10:42 AM

It just shows that there's no always winning the game it's all about the gambler managing all of the winnings and profit, even though it looks super impossible to achieve still it happens. But of course, is the $5000 only wasted to the game? There's a doubt on myself because not all the time we are having a good and green day with the gambling. Still congrats to OP achieving this kind of hard work and profit. The higher the risk the higher we gamble to win.

It's always like that in gambling, expect the unexpected either it is good thing or bad thing. It is possible to happen if his winning rate is more or less 90% and his bets are all in as always, for example is in sports because that's the only betting I know that has a very fair game unlike poker, blackjack, lotteries, etc, because all those things are a very high level strategy gameplay as well as luck.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on May 28, 2021, 04:55:02 AM

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That's exactly what I am thinking about. Undecided

. Gambling isn't supposed to be some kind of like a magical profit strategy that never fails to make money. People are always looking for a way to make an income without having to work. But gambling is and always was just for fun. Taking the risk is supposed the be fun, not an actual job.

well, you can have fun and earn money at the some time, right?
Play 2 earn games prove that this is true

also we can see that OP put the work to succeed on their gambling endeavor, risk management and putting up all these sheets and calculations is work

but I agree, most people want the shortcut, or the easy way, instead of the hard decisions

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It could be real or it could also be fake, but if it is real then your luck is at a different level but certain bets on sports could be sure certain to predict, and a lot could also be done these things if they have all the information needed, and in my opinion when I bet on certain books, I would surely pick what I think can be easily predicted and have a profitable income when I win, because there are certain unbalanced odds for example in the soccer Bundesliga Bayern have an extreme number of odds that is not profitable because the team is well-known to score a 7-0 on weaker teams that is surely a bet to be avoided, but certainly luck is still needed, when making a bet.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 07, 2021, 03:16:11 AM

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I agree with this statement. Truly, anyone claiming such numbers is really fishing for the weakest of the weakest minds. The chance of making 5k into millions is mathematically extremely low.

Also why would anyone trust someone else's claims with such large amounts of money? Im sure the spreadsheet looks nice and everything and may even have robust data but some things are too good to be true. Otherwise everyone would be millionaires...

If all can do the same, then we won't see any gambling house that still open or still surviving, right? But we don't really know the real score if things happened then congrats to OP if not, no one force anyone to believe though, whatever you think it's your judgement and OP don't need to care about it, it's our opinion against him.

Maybe there are people who know well. They managed to create a good system that helps them to anticipate or predict the possible outcomes.

Who knows in due time you also find the secret pattern, Roll Eyes

kidding aside, we all, as gambler desire to win, but most of us are losers Grin

That's exactly what I am thinking about. Undecided

. Gambling isn't supposed to be some kind of like a magical profit strategy that never fails to make money. People are always looking for a way to make an income without having to work. But gambling is and always was just for fun. Taking the risk is supposed the be fun, not an actual job.

I have never considered gambling as a job, because for me there is no strategy that can guarantee that we win continuously. I only play gambling
for fun, if I get a profit I just consider it a bonus. I've tried various strategies to be able to win, but there is no single strategy that gives continuous
wins. Most people definitely want to make money without having to work hard and they think playing gambling is the solution. Even though
it's a wrong thought, the reality is that gambling will not give you a win in the long run, So don't think of gambling as a job. This is only based on
my experience.

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It just shows that there's no always winning the game it's all about the gambler managing all of the winnings and profit, even though it looks super impossible to achieve still it happens. But of course, is the $5000 only wasted to the game? There's a doubt on myself because not all the time we are having a good and green day with the gambling. Still congrats to OP achieving this kind of hard work and profit. The higher the risk the higher we gamble to win.

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Quote from: ipanks on October 07, 2021, 03:16:21 AM

Quote from: xSkylarx on October 06, 2021, 01:22:32 PM

Quote from: Cling18 on October 06, 2021, 11:49:48 AM

Quote from: fortunecrypto on October 06, 2021, 01:11:40 AM

Quote from: Dragonfund on October 05, 2021, 07:20:13 PM

Op is the kind of gambler that's very patient and not greedy else he/she might have loss all the total amount he has made in a single game, a living legend is Op.
To reach this kind of level, one must be willing to have all experience to deal with emotional and money management skills in handling every ticket.

OP is showing us big figures and it's not easy to reach that figure with that number of bets, before he reached that I'm sure that there's a lot of obstacles before he set up his own strategies, you have a chance in sports betting if you are well organized, good in time and money management, there's a big difference in relying on luck and developing a system and OP has succeeded that luck is on your side if you have perseverance.

Following this strategy will take a long time and a lot of capital. If there will be a guarantee of sure profit which is as big as what OP stated, then it will be worth it but if we'll only be getting it by chance then it might be a big loss. I hope he could continue updating regarding strategy for another 3 years if possible.

These days, sharing strategy isn't really known; they won't share their strategy because they don't want others to win as well. People nowadays (though not all) are selfish, whereas in the past, such a strategy would be shared with others because they cared. But, based on this, I believe it is possible if he is extremely fortunate, but it is mathematically impossible, as most people believe. Nonetheless, I was astounded by it and believe you are extremely fortunate.

Yes, he is very lucky to win that money. We do not know how long he played gambling and how much money he used because he only tells about winning. Maybe he modified many strategies to find which strategy that will work for him and luckily, he found that strategy and ended with the victory. I guess he can control himself and not selfishly chase the win money because if he does not do that, he will lose all of his money from a long time ago.

One thing about luck is that, it works differently for different people, some people might have their luck in gambling, sports and other forms of betting, while other might have their luck in other stuffs out gambling, one advise is that everyone find where their luck is and focus on that area.
OP had this great result because his luck might be in gambling, other persons who's luck isn't in gambling and want to have this kind of result, the end thereof might be futile, this is why I always tell people to avoid doing things just because others did it and succeeded, the road I pass through and succeed, others who want my kind of success might go through that same road and end up in total failure.

Congratulations to the op.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on October 06, 2021, 01:22:32 PM

Quote from: Cling18 on October 06, 2021, 11:49:48 AM

Quote from: fortunecrypto on October 06, 2021, 01:11:40 AM

Quote from: Dragonfund on October 05, 2021, 07:20:13 PM

Op is the kind of gambler that's very patient and not greedy else he/she might have loss all the total amount he has made in a single game, a living legend is Op.
To reach this kind of level, one must be willing to have all experience to deal with emotional and money management skills in handling every ticket.

OP is showing us big figures and it's not easy to reach that figure with that number of bets, before he reached that I'm sure that there's a lot of obstacles before he set up his own strategies, you have a chance in sports betting if you are well organized, good in time and money management, there's a big difference in relying on luck and developing a system and OP has succeeded that luck is on your side if you have perseverance.

Following this strategy will take a long time and a lot of capital. If there will be a guarantee of sure profit which is as big as what OP stated, then it will be worth it but if we'll only be getting it by chance then it might be a big loss. I hope he could continue updating regarding strategy for another 3 years if possible.

These days, sharing strategy isn't really known; they won't share their strategy because they don't want others to win as well. People nowadays (though not all) are selfish, whereas in the past, such a strategy would be shared with others because they cared. But, based on this, I believe it is possible if he is extremely fortunate, but it is mathematically impossible, as most people believe. Nonetheless, I was astounded by it and believe you are extremely fortunate.

Yes, he is very lucky to win that money. We do not know how long he played gambling and how much money he used because he only tells about winning. Maybe he modified many strategies to find which strategy that will work for him and luckily, he found that strategy and ended with the victory. I guess he can control himself and not selfishly chase the win money because if he does not do that, he will lose all of his money from a long time ago.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 06, 2021, 01:34:30 PM

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 06, 2021, 11:52:27 AM

Quote from: mu_enrico on May 28, 2021, 04:55:02 AM

Yes, anything can happen in gambling, just like a $2 lottery ticket can win millions dollars, so it's possible to win the amount stated on OP.
However, reproducibility is an entirely different thing. He can win doesn't mean he can teach or can repeat the winning.

Anyone says they can teach you to magically turn $5,000 into $1,000,000 is going to scam you. Why? Because they will spend their time gambling, not teaching or selling products.

I agree with this statement. Truly, anyone claiming such numbers is really fishing for the weakest of the weakest minds. The chance of making 5k into millions is mathematically extremely low.

Also why would anyone trust someone else's claims with such large amounts of money? Im sure the spreadsheet looks nice and everything and may even have robust data but some things are too good to be true. Otherwise everyone would be millionaires...

If all can do the same, then we won't see any gambling house that still open or still surviving, right? But we don't really know the real score if things happened then congrats to OP if not, no one force anyone to believe though, whatever you think it's your judgement and OP don't need to care about it, it's our opinion against him.

Maybe there are people who know well. They managed to create a good system that helps them to anticipate or predict the possible outcomes.

Who knows in due time you also find the secret pattern, Roll Eyes

kidding aside, we all, as gambler desire to win, but most of us are losers Grin

That's exactly what I am thinking about. Undecided

. Gambling isn't supposed to be some kind of like a magical profit strategy that never fails to make money. People are always looking for a way to make an income without having to work. But gambling is and always was just for fun. Taking the risk is supposed the be fun, not an actual job.

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Quote from: Cling18 on October 06, 2021, 11:49:48 AM

Quote from: fortunecrypto on October 06, 2021, 01:11:40 AM

Quote from: Dragonfund on October 05, 2021, 07:20:13 PM

Op is the kind of gambler that's very patient and not greedy else he/she might have loss all the total amount he has made in a single game, a living legend is Op.
To reach this kind of level, one must be willing to have all experience to deal with emotional and money management skills in handling every ticket.

OP is showing us big figures and it's not easy to reach that figure with that number of bets, before he reached that I'm sure that there's a lot of obstacles before he set up his own strategies, you have a chance in sports betting if you are well organized, good in time and money management, there's a big difference in relying on luck and developing a system and OP has succeeded that luck is on your side if you have perseverance.

Following this strategy will take a long time and a lot of capital. If there will be a guarantee of sure profit which is as big as what OP stated, then it will be worth it but if we'll only be getting it by chance then it might be a big loss. I hope he could continue updating regarding strategy for another 3 years if possible.

well OP started with 5k which is big for many people but not huge if you compare to 1 million
the thing is that he/she found their edge.. risk management definitely helped

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Quote from: xSkylarx on October 06, 2021, 01:22:32 PM

Quote from: Cling18 on October 06, 2021, 11:49:48 AM

Quote from: fortunecrypto on October 06, 2021, 01:11:40 AM

Quote from: Dragonfund on October 05, 2021, 07:20:13 PM

Op is the kind of gambler that's very patient and not greedy else he/she might have loss all the total amount he has made in a single game, a living legend is Op.
To reach this kind of level, one must be willing to have all experience to deal with emotional and money management skills in handling every ticket.

OP is showing us big figures and it's not easy to reach that figure with that number of bets, before he reached that I'm sure that there's a lot of obstacles before he set up his own strategies, you have a chance in sports betting if you are well organized, good in time and money management, there's a big difference in relying on luck and developing a system and OP has succeeded that luck is on your side if you have perseverance.

Following this strategy will take a long time and a lot of capital. If there will be a guarantee of sure profit which is as big as what OP stated, then it will be worth it but if we'll only be getting it by chance then it might be a big loss. I hope he could continue updating regarding strategy for another 3 years if possible.

These days, sharing strategy isn't really known; they won't share their strategy because they don't want others to win as well. People nowadays (though not all) are selfish, whereas in the past, such a strategy would be shared with others because they cared. But, based on this, I believe it is possible if he is extremely fortunate, but it is mathematically impossible, as most people believe. Nonetheless, I was astounded by it and believe you are extremely fortunate.

People/Gamblers are greedy and who would really be the one would be sharing up their ways or methods on how to be profitable? Somehow it isnt really that much a concern whether they do share it up or not because if they do then doesnt mean that it would also work on you and just like what others been saying that someone couldnt really just easily share on methods for free or tell it to
public in regards their own methods but if they do then that would really be imposing up some charges or sub fees or something like that.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on October 06, 2021, 11:52:27 AM

Quote from: mu_enrico on May 28, 2021, 04:55:02 AM

Yes, anything can happen in gambling, just like a $2 lottery ticket can win millions dollars, so it's possible to win the amount stated on OP.
However, reproducibility is an entirely different thing. He can win doesn't mean he can teach or can repeat the winning.

Anyone says they can teach you to magically turn $5,000 into $1,000,000 is going to scam you. Why? Because they will spend their time gambling, not teaching or selling products.

I agree with this statement. Truly, anyone claiming such numbers is really fishing for the weakest of the weakest minds. The chance of making 5k into millions is mathematically extremely low.

Also why would anyone trust someone else's claims with such large amounts of money? Im sure the spreadsheet looks nice and everything and may even have robust data but some things are too good to be true. Otherwise everyone would be millionaires...

If all can do the same, then we won't see any gambling house that still open or still surviving, right? But we don't really know the real score if things happened then congrats to OP if not, no one force anyone to believe though, whatever you think it's your judgement and OP don't need to care about it, it's our opinion against him.

Maybe there are people who know well. They managed to create a good system that helps them to anticipate or predict the possible outcomes.

Who knows in due time you also find the secret pattern, Roll Eyes

kidding aside, we all, as gambler desire to win, but most of us are losers Grin

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Quote from: Cling18 on October 06, 2021, 11:49:48 AM

Quote from: fortunecrypto on October 06, 2021, 01:11:40 AM

Quote from: Dragonfund on October 05, 2021, 07:20:13 PM

Op is the kind of gambler that's very patient and not greedy else he/she might have loss all the total amount he has made in a single game, a living legend is Op.
To reach this kind of level, one must be willing to have all experience to deal with emotional and money management skills in handling every ticket.

OP is showing us big figures and it's not easy to reach that figure with that number of bets, before he reached that I'm sure that there's a lot of obstacles before he set up his own strategies, you have a chance in sports betting if you are well organized, good in time and money management, there's a big difference in relying on luck and developing a system and OP has succeeded that luck is on your side if you have perseverance.

Following this strategy will take a long time and a lot of capital. If there will be a guarantee of sure profit which is as big as what OP stated, then it will be worth it but if we'll only be getting it by chance then it might be a big loss. I hope he could continue updating regarding strategy for another 3 years if possible.

These days, sharing strategy isn't really known; they won't share their strategy because they don't want others to win as well. People nowadays (though not all) are selfish, whereas in the past, such a strategy would be shared with others because they cared. But, based on this, I believe it is possible if he is extremely fortunate, but it is mathematically impossible, as most people believe. Nonetheless, I was astounded by it and believe you are extremely fortunate.

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