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Topic: 519.704 received at 1TBZjmXho6mdGhoESaMV2svtqJXYtWfEp - Lost and Found? (Read 12117 times)
October 21, 2017, 04:31:19 PM
March 24, 2013, 04:19:47 PM
Well, I was bumping this every month. At the end of +3 months from receipt, now. This will probably be the my last bump ever, as I now have (also linked in the OP) the White Paper discussion here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/white-paper-receipt-of-btc-from-unknown-person-155112
December 31, 2012, 04:09:44 AM
Ok, I'm locking this topic until there is proof of ownership, significant news, or technical/legal questions or answers PMed or otherwise communicated to me (I'm not hard to get a hold of). The "it was mine" bit wasn't even funny the first time. You will still be able to delete your douchebaggery posts, through the thread lock.
December 31, 2012, 04:01:28 AM
it was mine, lost it somehow, silly me
please send 500 BTC to 17ws1xeoufHkKJdBR71p6kfHiTz5qqPGbH
keep the rest as finders reward
thx!
sad part: this idiot was serious... please send 500 BTC to 17ws1xeoufHkKJdBR71p6kfHiTz5qqPGbH
keep the rest as finders reward
thx!
December 31, 2012, 03:42:37 AM
I'd like to offer a better option
Send 400 BTC to 1JSTuR14XLBSDKzUxjiwkXguLPyW8mqkWQ
and you can keep the rest as a reward.
Actually, if you send 450BTC to me, you can keep the rest. If the owner comes back, I'll pay for 50BTC out of my pocket. Send 400 BTC to 1JSTuR14XLBSDKzUxjiwkXguLPyW8mqkWQ
and you can keep the rest as a reward.
December 31, 2012, 01:07:52 AM
I'd like to offer a better option
Send 400 BTC to 1JSTuR14XLBSDKzUxjiwkXguLPyW8mqkWQ
and you can keep the rest as a reward.
Send 400 BTC to 1JSTuR14XLBSDKzUxjiwkXguLPyW8mqkWQ
and you can keep the rest as a reward.
December 31, 2012, 12:01:08 AM
it was mine, lost it somehow, silly me
please send 500 BTC to 17ws1xeoufHkKJdBR71p6kfHiTz5qqPGbH
keep the rest as finders reward
thx!
please send 500 BTC to 17ws1xeoufHkKJdBR71p6kfHiTz5qqPGbH
keep the rest as finders reward
thx!
December 27, 2012, 09:25:40 AM
Once who ever sent the funds to 1TBZjmXho6mdGhoESaMV2svtqJXYtWfEp realizes they messed up I expect that they would google the address, as it's in your profile it brings up some of your posts ie: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-not-direct-trade-with-dwolla-129037 where they would be able to see who to PM, but this current thread doesn't show up or isn't prominent in search as yet but may become more so if you added the address to the thread title, eg: Re: Random sweeps into my public wallet 1TBZjmXho6mdGhoESaMV2svtqJXYtWfEp totaling 519.704 - Lost and Found?
If they search the forum for 1TBZjmXho6mdGhoESaMV2svtqJXYtWfEp though then this thread is the first hit already here. We should make side bets on when they will find out what they've done & the total they'll have sent by then - I'll guess the 28th Dec after sending another 500 coins to it.
If they search the forum for 1TBZjmXho6mdGhoESaMV2svtqJXYtWfEp though then this thread is the first hit already here. We should make side bets on when they will find out what they've done & the total they'll have sent by then - I'll guess the 28th Dec after sending another 500 coins to it.
Putting the address in the title probably ought to help with search. I imagine anyone moving that kind of btc with any regularity would at least know of this forum to search for it. The OP's concern about this being a portion of some ill-gotten sum might have some merit though. Given the way that Mt Gox has flagged some coins before that might have been connected to Bitcoinica, a party might attempt running the coins through a lossy mixing that sacrifices some coins to addresses known to be in use. I don't know how plausible spreading the taint could be as a serious laundering strategy, but it is something is probably only possible with bitcoin.
December 26, 2012, 10:35:04 AM
Thanks for the analysis molecular - that's exactly the path I was going down. I've worked on a project that specially seeded a SecureRandom (with other random input) to init the cryptographic functions, but bitcoinj does not appear to provide a direct way to provide the randomness, so it falls to the underlying library. Since that's the BouncyCastle/SpongyCastle crypto lib, I'm confident it is performed as well as reasonably possible.
December 26, 2012, 10:24:53 AM
If they search the forum for 1TBZjmXho6mdGhoESaMV2svtqJXYtWfEp though then this thread is the first hit already here. We should make side bets on when they will find out what they've done & the total they'll have sent by then - I'll guess the 28th Dec after sending another 500 coins to it.
my bet: Jan 2nd, no more coins will be sent.
December 26, 2012, 09:28:20 AM
Once who ever sent the funds to 1TBZjmXho6mdGhoESaMV2svtqJXYtWfEp realizes they messed up I expect that they would google the address, as it's in your profile it brings up some of your posts ie: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-not-direct-trade-with-dwolla-129037 where they would be able to see who to PM, but this current thread doesn't show up or isn't prominent in search as yet but may become more so if you added the address to the thread title, eg: Re: Random sweeps into my public wallet 1TBZjmXho6mdGhoESaMV2svtqJXYtWfEp totaling 519.704 - Lost and Found?
If they search the forum for 1TBZjmXho6mdGhoESaMV2svtqJXYtWfEp though then this thread is the first hit already here. We should make side bets on when they will find out what they've done & the total they'll have sent by then - I'll guess the 28th Dec after sending another 500 coins to it.
If they search the forum for 1TBZjmXho6mdGhoESaMV2svtqJXYtWfEp though then this thread is the first hit already here. We should make side bets on when they will find out what they've done & the total they'll have sent by then - I'll guess the 28th Dec after sending another 500 coins to it.
December 26, 2012, 07:22:18 AM
The implementation of SecureRandom is probably platform-dependant. Do we know the jvm/platform used to generate 1BTZ?
if it was a collision, win for sure 
nope, TheButterZone PMed me his version info. It's not "old ass". (edited my previous post accordingly).
Also see my post before this one for more info on SecureRandom
December 26, 2012, 07:19:57 AM
The file which controls the configuration of the SecureRandom API is located at: $JAVA_HOME/lib/security/java.security
TheButterZone, can you try to locate that file?
In my installation it contains a line:
Code:
securerandom.source=file:/dev/urandom
specifying the underlying system source of random.
It'd be interesting to know how your source for SecureRandom is configured.
December 26, 2012, 06:33:16 AM
Or MAYBE someone really likes you for your posts!
December 26, 2012, 05:57:41 AM
The implementation of SecureRandom is probably platform-dependant. Do we know the jvm/platform used to generate 1BTZ?
if it was a collision, win for sure December 26, 2012, 04:49:45 AM
The implementation of SecureRandom is probably platform-dependant. Do we know the jvm/platform used to generate 1BTZ?
if it was a collision, win for sure Not for sure. It's still possible there are some java runtimes out there that have insecure implementations of SecureRandom.
December 26, 2012, 04:19:56 AM
I looked at VanityAddress.jar:
Random Key is generated in class VanityAddr using com.google.bitcoin.core.ECKey.
ECKey constructor is implemented as:
So the random number generator used was: java.security.SecureRandom.
The implementation of SecureRandom is probably platform-dependant. Do we know the jvm/platform used to generate 1BTZ?
if it was a collision, win for sure Random Key is generated in class VanityAddr using com.google.bitcoin.core.ECKey.
Code:
import com.google.bitcoin.core.ECKey;
...
key = new ECKey();
...
key = new ECKey();
ECKey constructor is implemented as:
Code:
import java.security.SecureRandom;
...
private static final SecureRandom secureRandom = new [b]SecureRandom()[/b];
...
public ECKey()
{
ECKeyPairGenerator generator = new ECKeyPairGenerator();
ECKeyGenerationParameters keygenParams = new ECKeyGenerationParameters(ecParams, secureRandom);
generator.init(keygenParams);
AsymmetricCipherKeyPair keypair = generator.generateKeyPair();
ECPrivateKeyParameters privParams = (ECPrivateKeyParameters)keypair.getPrivate();
ECPublicKeyParameters pubParams = (ECPublicKeyParameters)keypair.getPublic();
this.priv = privParams.getD();
this.pub = pubParams.getQ().getEncoded();
this.creationTimeSeconds = (Utils.now().getTime() / 1000L);
}
...
private static final SecureRandom secureRandom = new [b]SecureRandom()[/b];
...
public ECKey()
{
ECKeyPairGenerator generator = new ECKeyPairGenerator();
ECKeyGenerationParameters keygenParams = new ECKeyGenerationParameters(ecParams, secureRandom);
generator.init(keygenParams);
AsymmetricCipherKeyPair keypair = generator.generateKeyPair();
ECPrivateKeyParameters privParams = (ECPrivateKeyParameters)keypair.getPrivate();
ECPublicKeyParameters pubParams = (ECPublicKeyParameters)keypair.getPublic();
this.priv = privParams.getD();
this.pub = pubParams.getQ().getEncoded();
this.creationTimeSeconds = (Utils.now().getTime() / 1000L);
}
So the random number generator used was: java.security.SecureRandom.
This class provides a cryptographically strong random number generator (RNG).
A cryptographically strong random number minimally complies with the statistical random number generator tests specified in FIPS 140-2, Security Requirements for Cryptographic Modules, section 4.9.1. Additionally, SecureRandom must produce non-deterministic output. Therefore any seed material passed to a SecureRandom object must be unpredictable, and all SecureRandom output sequences must be cryptographically strong, as described in RFC 1750: Randomness Recommendations for Security.
A cryptographically strong random number minimally complies with the statistical random number generator tests specified in FIPS 140-2, Security Requirements for Cryptographic Modules, section 4.9.1. Additionally, SecureRandom must produce non-deterministic output. Therefore any seed material passed to a SecureRandom object must be unpredictable, and all SecureRandom output sequences must be cryptographically strong, as described in RFC 1750: Randomness Recommendations for Security.
The implementation of SecureRandom is probably platform-dependant. Do we know the jvm/platform used to generate 1BTZ?
December 26, 2012, 04:12:22 AM
I looked at VanityAddress.jar:
Random Key is generated in class VanityAddr using com.google.bitcoin.core.ECKey.
ECKey constructor is implemented as:
So the random number generator used was: java.security.SecureRandom.
The implementation of SecureRandom is probably platform-dependant. Do we know the jvm/platform used to generate1BTZ 1TBZ?
EDIT: TheButterZone pmed me his java runtime info. Nothing obscure, so it should use a "good" implementation of SecureRandom.
Random Key is generated in class VanityAddr using com.google.bitcoin.core.ECKey.
Code:
import com.google.bitcoin.core.ECKey;
...
key = new ECKey();
...
key = new ECKey();
ECKey constructor is implemented as:
Code:
import java.security.SecureRandom;
...
private static final SecureRandom secureRandom = new [b]SecureRandom()[/b];
...
public ECKey()
{
ECKeyPairGenerator generator = new ECKeyPairGenerator();
ECKeyGenerationParameters keygenParams = new ECKeyGenerationParameters(ecParams, secureRandom);
generator.init(keygenParams);
AsymmetricCipherKeyPair keypair = generator.generateKeyPair();
ECPrivateKeyParameters privParams = (ECPrivateKeyParameters)keypair.getPrivate();
ECPublicKeyParameters pubParams = (ECPublicKeyParameters)keypair.getPublic();
this.priv = privParams.getD();
this.pub = pubParams.getQ().getEncoded();
this.creationTimeSeconds = (Utils.now().getTime() / 1000L);
}
...
private static final SecureRandom secureRandom = new [b]SecureRandom()[/b];
...
public ECKey()
{
ECKeyPairGenerator generator = new ECKeyPairGenerator();
ECKeyGenerationParameters keygenParams = new ECKeyGenerationParameters(ecParams, secureRandom);
generator.init(keygenParams);
AsymmetricCipherKeyPair keypair = generator.generateKeyPair();
ECPrivateKeyParameters privParams = (ECPrivateKeyParameters)keypair.getPrivate();
ECPublicKeyParameters pubParams = (ECPublicKeyParameters)keypair.getPublic();
this.priv = privParams.getD();
this.pub = pubParams.getQ().getEncoded();
this.creationTimeSeconds = (Utils.now().getTime() / 1000L);
}
So the random number generator used was: java.security.SecureRandom.
This class provides a cryptographically strong random number generator (RNG).
A cryptographically strong random number minimally complies with the statistical random number generator tests specified in FIPS 140-2, Security Requirements for Cryptographic Modules, section 4.9.1. Additionally, SecureRandom must produce non-deterministic output. Therefore any seed material passed to a SecureRandom object must be unpredictable, and all SecureRandom output sequences must be cryptographically strong, as described in RFC 1750: Randomness Recommendations for Security.
A cryptographically strong random number minimally complies with the statistical random number generator tests specified in FIPS 140-2, Security Requirements for Cryptographic Modules, section 4.9.1. Additionally, SecureRandom must produce non-deterministic output. Therefore any seed material passed to a SecureRandom object must be unpredictable, and all SecureRandom output sequences must be cryptographically strong, as described in RFC 1750: Randomness Recommendations for Security.
The implementation of SecureRandom is probably platform-dependant. Do we know the jvm/platform used to generate
EDIT: TheButterZone pmed me his java runtime info. Nothing obscure, so it should use a "good" implementation of SecureRandom.
December 25, 2012, 11:55:02 PM
Merry Christmas!
December 25, 2012, 11:38:33 PM
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They just came up to accept BTC donation because I've suggested them to do so. They did'nt knew about BTC before !
This site is quite good.
It host Lectures and Documentary. The site was built by 2 people. 2 people who have spent thousands of hours of work on it over the period of 8 months. This is related to TROM (The Reality Of Me), a must see !
2 peoples have invest all their time and economy into this effort, for at least 8 month. They are now completely broke. If this came to a lost, it would be such a waste
I urge anyone reading this to donate some BTC. If anyone reading gives 1% (or more, or less) of their BTC, they will see the number of donator, and will have some more time to keep it on !
I hope you will take a look at it, and will donate some.
Thanks for your time, and please, at least, give some time to look at their awesome work !
Have a nice life !
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