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Topic: 5G Has Dual Use As A Weapons System - page 4. (Read 1488 times)

legendary
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April 11, 2020, 10:13:26 AM
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Again, no double talk please. I asked about as simple a question as could be asked.

I would like to know the frequencies and power of such a death ray.
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It's a bullshit question/demand.  You know it, and so does everyone else.

Here's an analogy.  I'm going to totally ignore the possibility that a suicide bomber even exists because intel cannot tell me to the microgram how much explosive is in how many pouches on his vest.

Yes, suicide bombers have bombed other places before.  Yes, this individual is bragging that he's going to do a certain market.  Yes, he's on the bus and heading that way.  But since your sources could not determine exactly which one of the 5 known vest he strapped on when he was gearing up in the back room, I'm going to ignore that a problem even could exist and not even try to evaluate it.



What's bullshit is what you are doing in your response. You're ignoring the very fundamentals and making outrageous claims, then when asked to support them with evidence, you're trying to be clever and avoid answering.

So, there are no death rays from 5G towers.

Thanks.
legendary
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April 11, 2020, 09:47:09 AM

Here is an interview with a Derrick Broze who understands basic science and has studied 5G in detail for years and done a lot of activism around the subject.  I've listened to half of it, and he HAS to spend a bunch of time shooting down the wild theories which mis-represent the scientific literature on the subject.

It's really worth a listen for anyone who wants to understand the 5G issue with both feet on the ground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAVjQ_NXlCU

legendary
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April 11, 2020, 09:35:22 AM
Microwave transmissions are vastly more practical than fiber optic.  Especially when bouncing things around in space and trying to service rural areas.

The technology really isn't necessarily that much of a problem and it is relatively easy to mitigate the risks that it does pose to a reasonable degree.

The secrecy and lack of oversight is a huge problem, and very possibly a fatal one.  As far as I can tell, the risks and dangers of 5G to humanity 'is not a bug; it's a feature.'  Yes, things are that shady.



I'm not sure about communication with satellites, but there are a huge number of different types of fiber optic cables to provide communication for terrestrial areas for outdoor installation even in frozen ground and subject to fluctuations.

In Russia main fiber-optic communication lines are available practically in all settlements where there is treasury and financial tax service.

So the deployment of 5G in the territory of the whole planet makes me think.
legendary
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April 11, 2020, 09:13:41 AM
This danger is well known to tower climbers. They know they are shortening their life doing their job climbing active antennas. This is part of why they get paid well.

Then I just don't understand why people still use technologies that slowly kill us all. In my opinion, mobile Internet could well be abandoned.

Unlike mobile communications, fiber optic transmission lines operate over long distances and are completely safe for human health.

Microwave transmissions are vastly more practical than fiber optic.  Especially when bouncing things around in space and trying to service rural areas.

The technology really isn't necessarily that much of a problem and it is relatively easy to mitigate the risks that it does pose to a reasonable degree.

The secrecy and lack of oversight is a huge problem, and very possibly a fatal one.  As far as I can tell, the risks and dangers of 5G to humanity 'is not a bug; it's a feature.'  Yes, things are that shady.

legendary
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April 11, 2020, 09:08:18 AM
This danger is well known to tower climbers. They know they are shortening their life doing their job climbing active antennas. This is part of why they get paid well.

Then I just don't understand why people still use technologies that slowly kill us all. In my opinion, mobile Internet could well be abandoned.

Unlike mobile communications, fiber optic transmission lines operate over long distances and are completely safe for human health.
legendary
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April 11, 2020, 09:07:43 AM
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Again, no double talk please. I asked about as simple a question as could be asked.

I would like to know the frequencies and power of such a death ray.
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It's a bullshit question/demand.  You know it, and so does everyone else.

Here's an analogy.  I'm going to totally ignore the possibility that a suicide bomber even exists because intel cannot tell me to the microgram how much explosive is in how many pouches on his vest.

Yes, suicide bombers have bombed other places before.  Yes, this individual is bragging that he's going to do a certain market.  Yes, he's on the bus and heading that way.  But since your sources could not determine exactly which one of the 5 known vest he strapped on when he was gearing up in the back room, I'm going to ignore that a problem even could exist and not even try to evaluate it.

legendary
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April 11, 2020, 08:53:57 AM
I think that if this technology has any negative impact on human health and the environment, at least such information will be kept secret.

Guys, lately, I've been seeing more and more information on the Internet about exceeding the permissible levels of radiation near the towers. What do you think about that? Did any of you guys measure the radiation background?

This danger is well known to tower climbers. They know they are shortening their life doing their job climbing active antennas. This is part of why they get paid well.
legendary
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April 11, 2020, 08:47:40 AM
I think that if this technology has any negative impact on human health and the environment, at least such information will be kept secret.

Guys, lately, I've been seeing more and more information on the Internet about exceeding the permissible levels of radiation near the towers. What do you think about that? Did any of you guys measure the radiation background?
legendary
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April 11, 2020, 08:32:32 AM
...resonance...unique 'constellation' of aluminum particles in their brain tissues complements of the vaccinations which are all but mandatory at birth and have been for decades... geometric configuration of this constellation ...databasing, wave forming, and targeting technologies....reading of DNA is practical via EMF based hardware....powering active denial systems.... these weapons create an absolutely intolerable pain to anyone in the general area.  The populations below them will be 'collateral damage'.

I'm not interested in any of the wild speculation such as noted above. You and others have alleged the gigahertz technology as deployed on cell towers can form death rays. The backup generator to the cell tower can be for dozens or even hundreds of devices. It is not a way to figure the power of the death ray.

Gee, that's funny 'cuz you seem interested enough to edit through my writings and (I'm sure by accident) mess up the attribution so people cannot trace back very easily.

In fact there is nothing especially new or novel about almost any of the things I said.  It's the mosaic which is not so often offered.

I would like to know the frequencies and power of such a death ray. Either people alleging such things exist know these basic facts or they do not.

As soon as the systems are reverse engineered and/or the various research is declassified or leaked by a whistleblower, we'll have better answers.  It's hard to reverse engineer things which have not been released or activated yet.

In the mean time, everything about 5G shrieks means, motive, and opportunity vis-a-vis a part of a population control grid.  With the 'smart-foo' that it is loudly proclaimed to enable there is ambiguity about what the owners expect to achieve.  Since the same people who own the 5G apparatus own the regulatory agencies (and most of the rest of the governments besides) we simply have giant holes in the understanding of what they are setting up.  We'll pretty much have to wait until they are put into action in order to learn more.

In the mean time, we can and should continue research one the who's and how's of how things got to where they are.  And with the so-called 'covid-19' event it looks more and more like we are actually into what the Christians (the real ones) call the 'beast system.'



Again, no double talk please. I asked about as simple a question as could be asked.

I would like to know the frequencies and power of such a death ray.

It's understandable that you would use this subject to introduce six or eight other subjects of interest to you, but you've either got the potential for death rays in 5g or you don't.

In the absence of any answer to my simple question, it's pretty clear that you don't.

So, no death rays.

Darn. I always thought ray guns were cool!
legendary
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April 11, 2020, 08:26:46 AM
...resonance...unique 'constellation' of aluminum particles in their brain tissues complements of the vaccinations which are all but mandatory at birth and have been for decades... geometric configuration of this constellation ...databasing, wave forming, and targeting technologies....reading of DNA is practical via EMF based hardware....powering active denial systems.... these weapons create an absolutely intolerable pain to anyone in the general area.  The populations below them will be 'collateral damage'.

I'm not interested in any of the wild speculation such as noted above. You and others have alleged the gigahertz technology as deployed on cell towers can form death rays. The backup generator to the cell tower can be for dozens or even hundreds of devices. It is not a way to figure the power of the death ray.

Gee, that's funny 'cuz you seem interested enough to edit through my writings and (I'm sure by accident) mess up the attribution so people cannot trace back very easily.

In fact there is nothing especially new or novel about almost any of the things I said.  It's the mosaic which is not so often offered.

I would like to know the frequencies and power of such a death ray. Either people alleging such things exist know these basic facts or they do not.

As soon as the systems are reverse engineered and/or the various research is declassified or leaked by a whistleblower, we'll have better answers.  It's hard to reverse engineer things which have not been released or activated yet.

In the mean time, everything about 5G shrieks means, motive, and opportunity vis-a-vis a part of a population control grid.  With the 'smart-foo' that it is loudly proclaimed to enable there is zero ambiguity about what the owners expect to achieve and it is exactly this fine granualarity inventory and control of everything (including people.)  Since the same people who own the 5G apparatus own the regulatory agencies (and most of the rest of the governments besides) we simply have giant holes in the understanding of what they are setting up.  We'll pretty much have to wait until they are put into action in order to learn more.

In the mean time, we can and should continue research one the who's and how's of how things got to where they are.  And with the so-called 'covid-19' event it looks more and more like we are actually into what the Christians (the real ones) call the 'beast system.'

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April 11, 2020, 08:23:17 AM
The negative influence of any electromagnetic radiation has been known since the 70s. It was then that with the development of technology, many different studies were conducted on this topic. But, large corporations and industries simply ignore it, because it will be a loss on their part.

Any artificial electro-magnetic effect is harmful to humans (mobile phone, wireless and Internet, Wi-Fi, laptops, TVs, power lines, 5G, etc.) All this is very harmful, it affects the body in a complex and is one of the main reasons cancer (along with junk food or even more harmful).

And this is not a joke. Explore the topic in detail on the Internet. Information is silent, but it exists! After all, the future of our children depends on what we are doing now!

At the moment, along with awareness of the situation, we can already do something. Live, if possible, in nature, away from large cities, where there is a high electromagnetic pollution. Use special devices that remove the negative effects on living organisms.
legendary
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April 11, 2020, 07:58:28 AM
...resonance...unique 'constellation' of aluminum particles in their brain tissues complements of the vaccinations which are all but mandatory at birth and have been for decades... geometric configuration of this constellation ...databasing, wave forming, and targeting technologies....reading of DNA is practical via EMF based hardware....powering active denial systems.... these weapons create an absolutely intolerable pain to anyone in the general area.  The populations below them will be 'collateral damage'.
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I'm not interested in any of the wild speculation such as noted above. You and others have alleged the gigahertz technology as deployed on cell towers can form death rays. The backup generator to the cell tower can be for dozens or even hundreds of devices. It is not a way to figure the power of the death ray.

I would like to know the frequencies and power of such a death ray. Either people alleging such things exist know these basic facts or they do not.
sr. member
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April 11, 2020, 04:27:07 AM


5G signals lies in between 600MHz to 86000MHz, i.e. in both radio wave and microwave frequencies, greater frequency than radio and TV signals but lesser than visible light.



86Ghz (86000MHz) has a wavelenght of 3.5  milimeter (9/64 )
The issue at hand some frequencies will destroy cells and sometime later you will become very ill.
We know 93000MHz is a weapon.
We know 60000MHz oxygen atoms O2 rotate
We know what a microwave oven does at 2400MHz
We know not everbody is the same, differande frequency will have differand effect.
legendary
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April 11, 2020, 03:53:26 AM


5G signals lies in between 600MHz to 86000MHz, i.e. in both radio wave and microwave frequencies, greater frequency than radio and TV signals but lesser than visible light.

legendary
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April 11, 2020, 03:32:29 AM
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Meanwhile visible light is 14,000 times stronger than 5G so if you're worried about 5G, you should probably just live out the rest of your life in a completely dark faraday cage.

Could you define 'stronger' for us please?

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April 11, 2020, 02:56:23 AM
Do you realize the difference between "giga" and "tera"?

You're talking about frequencies between infrared and microwave.  That has nothing to do with 5G which is between radio and microwaves.


People hear the word radiation and lose their shit not realizing that its been everywhere since the beginning of time.    Remember tv static?  Thats just cosmic microwave radiation from the big bang. 

Meanwhile visible light is 14,000 times stronger than 5G so if you're worried about 5G, you should probably just live out the rest of your life in a completely dark faraday cage.
sr. member
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April 11, 2020, 02:19:14 AM
Do yourself a favor and unplug your Wi-Fi router when sleeping. In your deams you can surf without. (and save money)

Lets say a 2000 watt microwave oven is used to cook 2 minute noodles.
Lets say  a 20 watt (12V, 1.7A) output wifi router is used 24h a day.
Lets say microwave is used once per day every day of the year.
Lets say local electric is $ 0.20 per kWh



----2.4Ghz----Hours/dayMinutesPower Use (Watts)Cost/DayCost/YearkWh/dayWatts
Micro.-Oven0.033333322000$ 0.0133$ 4.87$ 0.0767
Router24144020$ 0.096$ 35.04$ 0.48480

Only a total idiot would claim it is save to sit inside a 12.5 cm / 5 inch microwavelenght box/oven for 2 min at 2k watt output.
legendary
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April 10, 2020, 11:40:04 PM
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Huh? A high energy cosmic ray particle - one particle - can have the energy of a 5.3 ounce baseball thrown by a profession pitcher. You are not going to get anywhere close to that with your couple hundred milliwatts.

And that one particle isn't anywhere close to what it would take to kill a human. It would just bust up a number of brain cells and cause you to see a flash in the vision field.

Who said anything about a single particle? I also didn't say anything about a couple hundred miliwatts. I am not responsible for what you or anyone else says, only what I say. The point was the energy levels are not the only variable. The frequency is part of what determines how lethal a source of EM is.

Oh, my error, that was tcvcof.

But people who are so knowledgable about lethal aspects of 5G to be discussing it on Internet forums certainly should be able to cite frequencies and power ranges for the effects they discuss.

Just in case you two wanna-be tech gurus missed it, my point is that they argue cell phone towers are safe because they emit so little power.  But I noted that they have backup generators in the 180,000 watt range.

Anyway, even power isn't really all that big a deal since there are ways to have significant influence at tiny power levels in part because of resonance...and other 'science-ee' things.  This is even more true when you can do phased array targeting.  You mainly need a good understanding of the target material.

I propose that each individual has a unique 'constellation' of aluminum particles in their brain tissues complements of the vaccinations which are all but mandatory at birth and have been for decades.  I further suggest that the 'fingerprint' of this constellation could be obtained...maybe in a machine which resembles the airport round-e-round scanners in fact.  I further suggest that understanding the geometric configuration of this constellation could allow 'read/write' to a degree with the proper databasing, wave forming, and targeting technologies.

There are hypotheses that at least reading of DNA is practical via EMF based hardware.  I kind of doubt that, and even if it is the case I would expect it to be practical mainly in close-range laboratory settings (electromagnetically quite rooms and such.)  Infusing the brain with metallic particles creates a much more practical method of 'doing things' with a person's brain and is much more practical in real-world conditions.

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Back to the 180 kw generator, I would expect it to be powering active denial systems of the type which are known to be deployed.  This mostly just to protect the tower itself.  A few months ago 'they' installed two new antennas on the tower nearest to me.  These were smaller square devices that hang out from each side of the tower.

I feel sorry for anyone who lives near these things if the towers are ever attacked by sabotours because these weapons create an absolutely intolerable pain to anyone in the general area.  The populations below them will be 'collateral damage'.  I see no indication whatsoever that the 'government regulators' have the foggiest clue about what the towers are even doing now, much less what they could do with a few strokes on a keyboard half way around the world.

legendary
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April 10, 2020, 09:32:37 PM
#98
Oh, my error, that was tcvcof.

But people who are so knowledgable about lethal aspects of 5G to be discussing it on Internet forums certainly should be able to cite frequencies and power ranges for the effects they discuss.

Frequency was already cited. Power levels vary.
legendary
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April 10, 2020, 09:14:19 PM
#97
Huh? A high energy cosmic ray particle - one particle - can have the energy of a 5.3 ounce baseball thrown by a profession pitcher. You are not going to get anywhere close to that with your couple hundred milliwatts.

And that one particle isn't anywhere close to what it would take to kill a human. It would just bust up a number of brain cells and cause you to see a flash in the vision field.

Who said anything about a single particle? I also didn't say anything about a couple hundred miliwatts. I am not responsible for what you or anyone else says, only what I say. The point was the energy levels are not the only variable. The frequency is part of what determines how lethal a source of EM is.

Oh, my error, that was tcvcof.

But people who are so knowledgable about lethal aspects of 5G to be discussing it on Internet forums certainly should be able to cite frequencies and power ranges for the effects they discuss.
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