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legendary
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February 04, 2017, 10:00:50 PM
#52
I think normally, do not directly create transaction but I found it was not as slow as you say
( I test today)

it is never slow if you pay higher fee than other people. it is like a competition. i pay 100 satoshi per byte and you pay 110 for example and obviously miners will pick you over me. and if a third guy comes and pays 120 he will be chosen and so on. now imagine there are 10,000 transactions with higher fees than yours that you have to compete with

This undermines the whole idea of Bitcoin as money

Ultimately, the competition of fees is meaningless since money should facilitate the trade and not hinder it. Ideally, it should be in the opposite direction, i.e. miners competing between themselves for the inclusion of transactions in the blocks, and that should cause the fees to decline and not rise over time. It is basically the same as the matters stand with banks. Some of them are offering payments free of charge altogether if they want to attract more clients, and that's how things should work in general

Miners don't have to compete amongst themselves in terms of fees. They just have to compete with respect to finding the new blocks.
That is a slight difference between banks and miners because if one miner keeps finding blocks, the transactions will have to go through him.
copper member
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February 04, 2017, 08:32:25 PM
#51
This has happened loads of times why do people have to keep posting about it every time this backup happens
 
Because it gives sigspammers something to post about. Oh wait...
I guess, this will be the third thread I saw in this board with the title of "X of Unconfirmed Transaction". Now its lowers and more than 20k, And it will discuss again the same title when it reaches +60k unconfirmed TX.
hero member
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February 04, 2017, 08:29:09 PM
#50
I think normally, do not directly create transaction but I found it was not as slow as you say
( I test today)

it is never slow if you pay higher fee than other people. it is like a competition. i pay 100 satoshi per byte and you pay 110 for example and obviously miners will pick you over me. and if a third guy comes and pays 120 he will be chosen and so on. now imagine there are 10,000 transactions with higher fees than yours that you have to compete with.

And when the BTC unconfirmed transactions are over 10 thousand,
I just use an alt like LTC or Eth, cheaper & Faster and no competing for BTC fee increases.  Wink


 Cool

That solution doesn't help when certain services do not support mentioned altcoins. A lot of the sites I deal with support Bitcoin. Often times payments expire because the transaction don't confirm within the required 30 minutes. This happened to me quite a lot recently. I'd love to use something like NEM to pay but Bitcoin is what is used primarily.
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legendary
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February 04, 2017, 08:24:21 PM
#49
This has happened loads of times why do people have to keep posting about it every time this backup happens
 
Because it gives sigspammers something to post about. Oh wait...
hero member
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February 04, 2017, 07:48:05 PM
#48
This has happened loads of times why do people have to keep posting about it every time this backup happens
 
legendary
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February 04, 2017, 05:27:58 PM
#47
it's definitely a pain in the butt and they should find a solution soon , it's really a big negative thing about bitcoin
two days ago I sent 50 mbtc to one of btc bookies that requires confirmation and I inserted the normal fee cause I didn't notice how many unconfirmed transactions there were at that time , I ended waiting more than 24 hours for the confirmation  Undecided
legendary
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February 04, 2017, 05:13:39 PM
#46
I think normally, do not directly create transaction but I found it was not as slow as you say
( I test today)

it is never slow if you pay higher fee than other people. it is like a competition. i pay 100 satoshi per byte and you pay 110 for example and obviously miners will pick you over me. and if a third guy comes and pays 120 he will be chosen and so on. now imagine there are 10,000 transactions with higher fees than yours that you have to compete with.

And when the BTC unconfirmed transactions are over 10 thousand,
I just use an alt like LTC or Eth, cheaper & Faster and no competing for BTC fee increases.  Wink


 Cool

legendary
Activity: 3430
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February 04, 2017, 01:23:10 PM
#45
I think normally, do not directly create transaction but I found it was not as slow as you say
( I test today)

it is never slow if you pay higher fee than other people. it is like a competition. i pay 100 satoshi per byte and you pay 110 for example and obviously miners will pick you over me. and if a third guy comes and pays 120 he will be chosen and so on. now imagine there are 10,000 transactions with higher fees than yours that you have to compete with

This undermines the whole idea of Bitcoin as money

Ultimately, the competition of fees is meaningless since money should facilitate the trade and not hinder it. Ideally, it should be in the opposite direction, i.e. miners competing between themselves for the inclusion of transactions in the blocks, and that should cause the fees to decline and not rise over time. It is basically the same as the matters stand with banks. Some of them are offering payments free of charge altogether if they want to attract more clients, and that's how things should work in general
hero member
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February 04, 2017, 12:46:23 PM
#44

What does that imply?
fee will be higher or probably people would not send bitcoin in a period of time untill the unconfied transactions are confirmed.

Is this good?
It is not good in my view because we need to pay higher fee. no one likes higher fee unless miners (cmiiw)

I have a transaction of 0.01 BTC that has been stuck for almost 24 hours despite a high fee. Do we have too many unconfirmed transactions on the network?

yes, we do.
legendary
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February 04, 2017, 11:44:12 AM
#43
I think normally, do not directly create transaction but I found it was not as slow as you say
( I test today)

it is never slow if you pay higher fee than other people. it is like a competition. i pay 100 satoshi per byte and you pay 110 for example and obviously miners will pick you over me. and if a third guy comes and pays 120 he will be chosen and so on. now imagine there are 10,000 transactions with higher fees than yours that you have to compete with.
sr. member
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February 04, 2017, 11:41:13 AM
#42
There are currently 65214 Unconfirmed Transactions on the Bitcoin network at time of posting.

What does that imply? Is this good? I have a transaction of 0.01 BTC that has been stuck for almost 24 hours despite a high fee. Do we have too many unconfirmed transactions on the network?

After a while the block's content will just be sent back no? Just pray to God it's not "those" people testing their "luck" solo mining with CPUs or some shite
sr. member
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February 04, 2017, 11:19:30 AM
#41
I think normally, do not directly create transaction but I found it was not as slow as you say
( I test today)
newbie
Activity: 48
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February 04, 2017, 11:05:23 AM
#40
What are the transactions that people are sending through bitcoin?

Why are they paying large fees and not holding off or using another channel? Why do they have to go through bitcoin if they aren't to do with bitcoin speculation?

Do people sending BTC transactions even know that they are going into a clogged up queue?
legendary
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February 04, 2017, 09:52:45 AM
#39
At time of posting now it is only at about ~18k, ~15k even. It appears to be fluctuating and peaking at 50-70k of total unconfirmed transactions. The transaction of mine that had been stuck has now been confirmed, after a day. I'll make sure to send with even higher fees in the future.



Yeah it's not worth sending a transaction with the standard fee at this time. At times like this you have to send with a slightly higher fee to avoid the uncertainty & anxiety that an unconfirmed transaction brings. 
hero member
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February 04, 2017, 09:26:27 AM
#38
There are currently 65214 Unconfirmed Transactions on the Bitcoin network at time of posting.

What does that imply? Is this good? I have a transaction of 0.01 BTC that has been stuck for almost 24 hours despite a high fee. Do we have too many unconfirmed transactions on the network?

terrible, someone to stop it in any way
market stalled, much work can not be completed
why this happens repeatedly? I do not understand the reason for it
hero member
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February 04, 2017, 09:05:58 AM
#37
its not uncommon fact now. we all know that after July halving many manner had switched their system from mining bitcoin to mining other profitable coins and-and a fact is because of very less bit and high difficulty in bitcoin. since July halving price of bitcoin is almost at the same range may be since-since 1 month It had reached $900 but that doesn't make sense now because once dinner have given u mining bitcoin they would not switch to bitcoin back.
hero member
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February 04, 2017, 08:41:54 AM
#36
At time of posting now it is only at about ~18k, ~15k even. It appears to be fluctuating and peaking at 50-70k of total unconfirmed transactions. The transaction of mine that had been stuck has now been confirmed, after a day. I'll make sure to send with even higher fees in the future.

you shouldn't just pay higher fees. instead you should check and make sure how much is high enough. it means visiting a website such as 21.co in order to figure out how much satoshi per byte you should pay.

in the future that you want to spend something, it is possible that the number has finally stopped going up and started at normal levels and you no longer needed to pay high amounts.
hero member
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February 04, 2017, 05:49:01 AM
#35
At time of posting now it is only at about ~18k, ~15k even. It appears to be fluctuating and peaking at 50-70k of total unconfirmed transactions. The transaction of mine that had been stuck has now been confirmed, after a day. I'll make sure to send with even higher fees in the future.

legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1005
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February 04, 2017, 04:00:43 AM
#34
i guess some of the transaction is based on the money laundering - they will not be revealed with such a large amount of transactions. state me if i have anything wrong.
legendary
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Merit: 1069
February 04, 2017, 03:44:45 AM
#33
Don't think I've ever seen this many unconfirmed transactions before (I do have an awful memory though, long story).
This must be another spam attack to have over 60,000 unconfirmed transactions though, no?
No.  In case you've been living under a rock, it is not due to spam but rather due to Blockstream intentionally crippling the system so there will be a need for their 'solution'.  It is nothing less than a hostile takeover of the protocol.

It is a very bad approach to sit back and do nothing.  So get off your ass and do something.  At least go start a BU node.  It is not that hard.  Can anyone give a link to simplified instructions how to set up a BU node for the morons?


If this is not due to increase in adoption, then we have still plenty of room to scale, if this is just someone that intentionally want the block to be higher when it's not the time yet, then just leave he doing it until he run out of money

the block should be increase only if it is geniunly needed, and since there is no proof of that, and you can't say this just by looking at the price increase, it result in fud to me
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