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Topic: 7 STOLEN Kialaras - Please keep an eye out (Read 546 times)

legendary
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September 23, 2018, 08:48:46 AM
#23
This may not be a popular suggestion, but IMO it is one of the few likely to work. You COULD just continue to maximize legal pressure, getting the word out, scouring eBay, Craigslist, etc, or you could offer a no questions asked reward for them.

You said these items have sentimental value to you, IMO this is the most likely course of action to produce results. Of course no one enjoys incentivizing criminal activity by basically paying a ransom, but if you take a moment to look at it from the perspective of the thief/thieves it makes the most sense.

Having been involved in Bitcoin for a while I have had to learn to analyze people and their intent as a matter of survival. In this time I have learned these people are usually pretty predictable with predictable motivations and fears.

If it is in fact not a targeted attack as you say, these people probably know very little about what they have and will be going based only on common media conceptions of Bitcoin. This means they likely will be afraid to sell them knowing how technologically advanced it is and how little they know about it.

If they do manage to find out exactly what it is, they will know it will be easy to trace. That means they might break out any valuable metals that may be in them and try to spend the Bitcoin. Obviously you don't want this so...

My suggestion is to offer a reward for their no questions asked return and publish it locally. I would offer 2 tiers of rewards, an individual one for each and one for the bundle as a whole (with a bit more). This way if they no longer have some they still have motivations to return the rest.

How you arrange the circumstances of return obviously will be the difficult part. You are just going to have to hope they trust you will follow thru. Again though, this is in comparison to the probable alternative of them sitting on them for a long time and/or the value being worth much less via destruction or fencing.

Again, I know this isn't the most perfect solution, but IMO is the solution MOST LIKELY to see their return in this shitty situation. Good luck with their return.

EDIT: P.S. if you do decide to do this, don't wait too long. Every day that passes means you are less likely to see them back. Again, good luck.
sr. member
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September 23, 2018, 01:10:53 AM
#22
Damm, Sorry to hear, will also keep an eye out  Angry
legendary
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The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.
September 22, 2018, 11:14:27 AM
#21
One app I use is Bitcoin Address Watcher.

I have all my loaded btc public addresses on it and if any changes take place I get an alert right away.

Edit..it seems the app I suggested is no longer available on playstore..but there is wallet watcher as a good alternative. Not sure if it has an alarm feature though

This app sounds really interesting. I did a quick search but did not find any info about it. - Is it secure to use or do they submit the pub key data to their servers or something like that?
What I am wondering is the following: if someone gets hold of your pub key collection he has a full view of your (BTC) finances, right? So in order to make this a secure app it would need some pw protection and also guarantee that no data is kept outside your local device.

/Sorry for ot, but maybe this info is interesting to some, otherwise we can continue the chat via dm, if OP preferes that.

Yes they stopped listing it on Google playstore no idea why. This is what I found on a google search

Add a Bitcoin address and get notifications whenever transactions happen. You can add as many addresses as you want, both "normal" and "pay to script hash" (P2SH) addresses are supported. No private key required. Bitcoin Address Watcher was tested and optimised for low battery and network usage.

  No idea about its privacy as far as the questions you ask. They are good. But it does not mean what I am following belongs to me. I can be following any public address just for the sake of following it.
  There other out there besides this one btw.

  I have also asked a forum member who is a great programmer to perhaps come up his own app that can do the same.

  It is great to have especially when you can set it to give you an alert that there has been btc movement in a public address you are following.

  It wont be the greatest alarm you ever wanna hear trust me! Its with dread when you see it come up as you know that something is not right!
donator
Activity: 2352
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between a rock and a block!
September 22, 2018, 10:36:46 AM
#20
They will turn up somewhere... The thieves will want to sell them and if online, you can check craigslist, ebay, etsy etc... periodically.
It sounds like you've been visiting some pawn shops too...

I would recommend creating a printout sheet (perhaps double sided) and print a pic of each one and leave this with the store owner, so that they know what to look for.
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1403
Disobey.
September 22, 2018, 07:49:45 AM
#19
One app I use is Bitcoin Address Watcher.

I have all my loaded btc public addresses on it and if any changes take place I get an alert right away.

Edit..it seems the app I suggested is no longer available on playstore..but there is wallet watcher as a good alternative. Not sure if it has an alarm feature though

This app sounds really interesting. I did a quick search but did not find any info about it. - Is it secure to use or do they submit the pub key data to their servers or something like that?
What I am wondering is the following: if someone gets hold of your pub key collection he has a full view of your (BTC) finances, right? So in order to make this a secure app it would need some pw protection and also guarantee that no data is kept outside your local device.

/Sorry for ot, but maybe this info is interesting to some, otherwise we can continue the chat via dm, if OP preferes that.
sr. member
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I love technology.
September 21, 2018, 08:22:54 PM
#18
This sucks, I really hope you get them back.
legendary
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The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.
September 21, 2018, 07:26:22 PM
#17
One app I use is Bitcoin Address Watcher.

I have all my loaded btc public addresses on it and if any changes take place I get an alert right away.

Edit..it seems the app I suggested is no longer available on playstore..but there is wallet watcher as a good alternative. Not sure if it has an alarm feature though
newbie
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September 21, 2018, 06:38:18 PM
#16
thank you kindly for caring! And yes, Max is pretty amazing and helpful.
newbie
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September 21, 2018, 06:25:17 PM
#15
Like OG said..do you have the public addy for the loaded Kialaras? Keep an eye on them and see if they get redeemed. You can trace the final destination of the sent Bit[Suspicious link removed]dluck

I texted Max to see if he could possibly help with the 2 addresses of the loaded pieces.
Will let you know if I hear back Cheesy

I've also been in touch and he definitely helped me save time digging though old wallets. I had the serials and he gave me the public keys. I was then able to look at the sent from addresses and confirm which wallet it was. The fact that this was pretty easy to do also says that if I publish the pub keys it would leak an enormous amount of privacy. If they were freshly mined btc, it would be a different story.

Also, because the outputs were pooled when I sent the 1 btc, it would leak information about other people I transacted with...and that's not my place to do. I was still technically newb in the space so feel free to scold me on that.

Max has always had a policy of not releasing any public keys without permission which is respectable. I considered releasing them myself but to reiterate: it would leak too much information about my bitcoin.

Having said that, I gave Max permission to notify the community if the BTC is moved (I will also be keeping my eye on this). This way we will all know if the piece is destroyed.
legendary
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Merit: 1222
Just looking for peace
September 21, 2018, 05:22:38 PM
#14
that really sucks Sad

i love Kialara bars and Julia bar is one of the good ones.

I really really hope you find them somehow along with other items that got stolen from your home.
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1403
Disobey.
September 21, 2018, 05:15:35 PM
#13
Ugh, what a horrible story. I really wish at least some of the Kialaras turn up again and find their way back to you.
Can‘t imagine the stress you must have gone through when finding most of your home destroyed.
All the best.
newbie
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Merit: 1
September 21, 2018, 04:53:44 PM
#12
I've never posted my parent's address anywhere xo good advice in general ty
legendary
Activity: 2520
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The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.
September 21, 2018, 04:28:22 PM
#11
That is one reason why you don't post your address in "My Messages".  long-timers even advised me not to post tracking as well.  Use privenote or equivalent.

Not saying that is what happened in this case.

Or you can get a PO BOX addy for complete privacy

Also a bank vault box is helpful too Wink
copper member
Activity: 1253
Merit: 108
September 21, 2018, 04:13:54 PM
#10
That is one reason why you don't post your address in "My Messages".  long-timers even advised me not to post tracking as well.  Use privenote or equivalent.

Not saying that is what happened in this case.
copper member
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Merit: 2
September 21, 2018, 02:54:09 PM
#9
sorry to hear i live around the GTA and will keep an eye out
hero member
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September 21, 2018, 02:35:47 PM
#8
Sorry to hear  Angry

Scammers and home robbers are pitiful people.
legendary
Activity: 2520
Merit: 3238
The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.
September 21, 2018, 02:29:11 PM
#7
Like OG said..do you have the public addy for the loaded Kialaras? Keep an eye on them and see if they get redeemed. You can trace the final destination of the sent Bitcoin. Goodluck
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 1
September 21, 2018, 02:09:30 PM
#6
It's a quiet neighbourhood. My parents have lived there for over a decade without a single issue or break-in in the area. No one has cameras. Sad They wore gloves. They were pros. It seems they were looking for cash (they looked in our flour, stole my mom's heirloom gold jewellery etc). In-out mission in evening while no one was home.

Thank you for you kind words. xo
donator
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September 21, 2018, 01:57:22 PM
#5
I read this horrifying story on Twitter. I assume a police report was filed and the authorities dusted for prints. Perhaps you will get lucky and they will capture the perpetrators. Any surveillance video from your or perhaps a neighbor’s security cameras? Were these items included on your homeowner’s insurance policy? While this is definitely an unfortunate situation, perhaps some good could come of it by bringing to light necessary crypto security practices. A bit hard to believe that no neighbors witnessed someone climbing through an upstairs window with a ladder. I hope you’re able to recover them. Maybe the loaded address could be used to track down where the funds went to aid in the investigation?
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1757
September 21, 2018, 01:25:21 PM
#4
Julia, very sorry to hear of this news.  I will keep my eyes out for them on ebay and other forums.
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