7nm Avalon ASIC (A3207) • AvalonMiner A9 • 0.06-0.07 J/GH - page 2.

dutchlincoln

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Quote from: AniceInovation on September 22, 2018, 04:23:22 PM

And specs are out!
20TH/s for 1700W: https://www.cryptouniverse.at/shop/avalonminer-a9-avalon-a9/
Heavily disappointed.

its a laugh and failure compared to competition....

AniceInovation

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Interesting.

And specs are out!
20TH/s for 1700W: https://www.cryptouniverse.at/shop/avalonminer-a9-avalon-a9/
Heavily disappointed.

philipma1957

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Quote from: QuestionQuest on September 22, 2018, 05:07:19 AM

While you all calculate Avalon, Innosilicion, Halong, WhatsMiner, Holic (for B2B), GMO ... and and and ....

I was waiting for the next step of Bitmain and was every disappointed as I saw the "AntBox" some weeks ago.

While Bitmain is using a shitty 16nm chip and the chip design is beating them almost all for what you get (price).

Now its out 7nm chip with Bitmain chip-design and they will rule the market again Roll Eyes

or will ebang's newer model be better.

QuestionQuest

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While you all calculate Avalon, Innosilicion, Halong, WhatsMiner, Holic (for B2B), GMO ... and and and ....

I was waiting for the next step of Bitmain and was every disappointed as I saw the "AntBox" some weeks ago.

While Bitmain is using a shitty 16nm chip and the chip design is beating them almost all for what you get (price).

Now its out 7nm chip with Bitmain chip-design and they will rule the market again Roll Eyes

minefarmbuy

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We are not retail.

If we get lot's of demand hopefully a price break on a large quantity will balance some of the tariff out.

SkyLakeMine

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Quote from: frodocooper on September 14, 2018, 04:41:47 AM

Quote from: SkyLakeMine on September 13, 2018, 11:29:02 PM

1) since miner is based on cgminer I should be able to monitor it with the regular cgminer api commands? Is this correct? e.g. stats command

Yes.

Quote from: SkyLakeMine on September 13, 2018, 11:29:02 PM

2) the controller controls several miners? therefore, i cannot send ssh commands? so my only option to restart miner is through the api?

Yes, one Controller can control up to 20 miners — i.e., up to five miners on each AUC3, with up to four AUC3s per Controller.

The Controller uses OpenWrt as its operating system, which itself uses Dropbear as its built-in SSH server. Simply configure Dropbear according to your needs (it's enabled by default) through the Controller's web interface and you'll be able to connect to the Controller via SSH.

Thanks!
Canaan is something new to me so I didn't know exactly how the controllers worked.

ccgllc

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Math doesn't care what you believe.

I'm hoping for November, and that the US/China tradewar is over by then. Otherwise some of us are going to see prices 25% higher than others.

frodocooper

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Quote from: SkyLakeMine on September 13, 2018, 11:29:02 PM

1) since miner is based on cgminer I should be able to monitor it with the regular cgminer api commands? Is this correct? e.g. stats command

Yes.

Quote from: SkyLakeMine on September 13, 2018, 11:29:02 PM

2) the controller controls several miners? therefore, i cannot send ssh commands? so my only option to restart miner is through the api?

Yes, one Controller can control up to 20 miners — i.e., up to five miners on each AUC3, with up to four AUC3s per Controller.

The Controller uses OpenWrt as its operating system, which itself uses Dropbear as its built-in SSH server. Simply configure Dropbear according to your needs (it's enabled by default) through the Controller's web interface and you'll be able to connect to the Controller via SSH.

minefarmbuy

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We are not retail.

Did you just answer your own questions? Or am I that wasted?

SkyLakeMine

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Quote from: frodocooper on September 11, 2018, 06:24:47 PM

Canaan has added the avalon9 branch to their cgminer repository on GitHub.

Questions for the group:

1) since miner is based on cgminer I should be able to monitor it with the regular cgminer api commands? Is this correct? e.g. stats command

2) the controller controls several miners? therefore, i cannot send ssh commands? so my only option to restart miner is through the api?

Thanks

smracer

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$2000???

Anything over $800 is too risky, and I am at .05/Kwh total.

If I used my whole 300KW and bought 180 of them it would cost 144K @ $800 ea. ~ 25 BTC with PSU's and shipping

If they were running right now they would make 5.8 BTC/mo. Maybe 5 BTC by the time they arrive.

Subtract 1.5BTC for power costs and rent, etc leaving 3.5 BTC profit the first month. After that it will slowly decline each month.

I would be lucky to BTC ROI in 10 months. That is also figuring Bitcoin will go up and I can use less BTC each month for expenses.

$2000 per unit and it would take years to BTC ROI, maybe never.

AniceInovation

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Interesting.

Love to see avalon in the efficiency front, hope they keep their remarkable reliability.

fccs

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Quote from: DaveF on September 12, 2018, 11:09:28 AM

Canaan has usually started high in price and then dropped. I have been buying them since their 4.0 / 4.1 (2014?) and Bitmain and others have always been cheaper. The Avalons have been better more solid products.

The 1720 watts is going to be an issue. Yes I know 220v is better then 110v but I have a lot of 110v / 20a circuits that are going to be too close to comfort to run at that power.

If I can drop the speed a bit and get it to 1600w at the wall I might look into getting a few.

-Dave

That will be ok for winter but once it warms up avalons like to use more power. I run on 240v so I don't have a issue but yes I see what you are saying. I'm sure you will be able to undervolt it some and be fine for winter though. 1700w on 110v is fine anyways. That's right to the 20% safe zone at under 16amps constant. I believe that's why they made it 1700watts for this reason.

DaveF

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Quote from: fccs on September 11, 2018, 10:01:33 PM

I am thinking November honestly. They may release info about pricing and release dates available for preorder in October though. That's usually how they do it. Price is what is going to be most important, canaan makes great miners but price is always the highest. The competitor is the M10 at the moment which keep in mind also comes with power supply at $1788. So we will round up and just say $1800-1850 shipped all said and done to your door. If Canaan stays under $2000 they have this in the bag. If over $2000, it would be iffy considering by that time the M10 will be 2nd batch and $1600. I wouldn't be very happy paying say $2300 for essentially a 28-30TH miner with power supply all said and done knowing I could have gotten a M10 miner for most likely $1600-1700 all said and done and be pushing 3 more TH. So they have to be weary of the price. Same with the litecoin miner they have coming out.

Canaan has usually started high in price and then dropped. I have been buying them since their 4.0 / 4.1 (2014?) and Bitmain and others have always been cheaper. The Avalons have been better more solid products.

The 1720 watts is going to be an issue. Yes I know 220v is better then 110v but I have a lot of 110v / 20a circuits that are going to be too close to comfort to run at that power.

If I can drop the speed a bit and get it to 1600w at the wall I might look into getting a few.

-Dave

mgoz

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They just added 921 firmware a couple days ago:
https://canaan.io/downloads/software/avalon921/

fccs

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Quote from: minefarmbuy on September 12, 2018, 02:22:14 AM

Canaan does well with design and pricing and have always been competitive to market. Speculation is really timing of release. I don't recall 821 dates announced till Nov and units not hitting the US till mid/late January'18 or maybe it's the beer right now.

If their stocking a 921/941, just release the 921 now and push 941 to market November. Forget about liquidating old inventory and capitalize on the open market. Price it 1500 and sell out in days. If it's already hitting high 20's/low 30's and is lean. Then they know what their doing and should just do what they do.

Yea Jan, I was first batch buyer for 821 and 841. They said they are releasing earlier this time the new A9 stuff so I'd assume November December. If it's under $2000 ill buy it, if it's something redic like $3000 then sadly no lol

minefarmbuy

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We are not retail.

Canaan does well with design and pricing and have always been competitive to market. Speculation is really timing of release. I don't recall 821 dates announced till Nov and units not hitting the US till mid/late January'18 or maybe it's the beer right now.

If their stocking a 921/941, just release the 921 now and push 941 to market November. Forget about liquidating old inventory and capitalize on the open market. Price it 1500 and sell out in days. If it's already hitting high 20's/low 30's and is lean. Then they know what their doing and should just do what they do.

fccs

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I am thinking November honestly. They may release info about pricing and release dates available for preorder in October though. That's usually how they do it. Price is what is going to be most important, canaan makes great miners but price is always the highest. The competitor is the M10 at the moment which keep in mind also comes with power supply at $1788. So we will round up and just say $1800-1850 shipped all said and done to your door. If Canaan stays under $2000 they have this in the bag. If over $2000, it would be iffy considering by that time the M10 will be 2nd batch and $1600. I wouldn't be very happy paying say $2300 for essentially a 28-30TH miner with power supply all said and done knowing I could have gotten a M10 miner for most likely $1600-1700 all said and done and be pushing 3 more TH. So they have to be weary of the price. Same with the litecoin miner they have coming out.

philipma1957

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Quote from: minefarmbuy on September 11, 2018, 08:05:24 PM

When did they post their 8 series branch LY? Might help speculate a release.

It was around for more then 50 days prior to release of 821.

But I think avalon wants to get the a9 out the door asap. So I hope for early October.

I also hope the A9 lives up to spec. the 841 were good. the 851 not so good. but my tests involved 3 841's and 2 851's small samples to base results on.

minefarmbuy

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We are not retail.

When did they post their 8 series branch LY? Might help speculate a release.

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