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The problem is the seed keys are coming through NIST an NSA project

So all the keys are corrupt, there is no such thing as secure crypto, the NSA destroyed modern crypto

NSA has complete control of 3 major org's that are the top 3 of all crypto for USA/Euro/Canada

Just follow the names and connect the dots all the top guys at Nist and the Blackberry Canadiian group and the ENISA group are in bed with the NSA, they way they pay off all these guys is through the German NWO publisher SPRINGER

You know the morons that had all those fake academic papers published not long ago, THAT WAS DONE to expose the whole Springer pub company as FAKE

They can't even read a paper and figure out if it's nonsense from a computer, so Springer is funded by NSA and that's the checkbook that pays off all the academic spies that destroyed modern crypto

Even the Euro thing named ENISA shows it was 30Mod algorithm since when 30Mod was released in 1995 it was released as THE ENNISA FORMULA

Just read the Adoni book, he exposed all this stuff about how corrupt all crypto was , Dr. Adoni a guy that lot's of crypto scammers hate

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Quote from: Addition on November 25, 2014, 01:13:43 PM

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Quote from: odolvlobo on November 25, 2014, 12:36:29 PM

Prime numbers are not random. There is a well-known algorithm that will generate every prime number in existence.

Are u sure ? Can u plz link it ?

First of all thanks for the logical input from 247casino, Flashman and Odolvlobo! Finding all this fascinating.

Here's a simplistic video brother which just shows how primes are governed/structured:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFuR97YcSLM

I think for Bitcoiners, the main concern here is whether a Private Key can be extrapolated based on only being presented with public key/seed?

I know any given private key can of course be decoded with currently large time factor. But the question is whether a prime-based Primer exists to backdoor SHA-based encryption?

NO

The question is are seed keys for ECC released through NIST from the NSA back doored?

Once you understand IF a special relationship EXISTS between the two seed keys, then that relationship unknown to everyone but the creator of the seed keys (the NSA) then the seed key creator can exploit the seed keys.

That is how the hack was done

I see, thanks for explaining and sharing your above average understanding of math-based cryptography!

To clarify, if our seed keys are not created by the NSA, then they can not be exploited by them.

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Quote from: Flashman on November 25, 2014, 01:46:49 PM

This...

http://www.vdschagt.com/bitcoin-surprisingly-dodges-cryptographic-bullet/

Neal Koblitz is an NSA spook for almost 50 years, right after Harvard he was in Moscow for 2 years a broke student doing research yeah sure, who has access to cold war Russia then? SPIES

Then 3 days before you had the Satoshi white paper released you had Neal Koblitz release his own paper praising the NSA and ECC for being so secure.

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Now we all know it was NSA propaganda and ECC is completely backdoored.

Yeah trust Neal Koblitz he's as NSA SPIE as it gets

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Quote from: Flashman on November 25, 2014, 01:46:49 PM

This...

http://www.vdschagt.com/bitcoin-surprisingly-dodges-cryptographic-bullet/

That article is a tad over the top. It was well-known that the designers of EC-DRBG could have inserted a backdoor into it a decade before the Snowden documents confirming it. secp256r1 is still ECDSA and does not use EC-DRBG, so the quote at the end is totally meaningless.

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Hodl!

This...

http://www.vdschagt.com/bitcoin-surprisingly-dodges-cryptographic-bullet/

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Quote from: Addition on November 25, 2014, 01:13:43 PM

Quote from: BitcoinExchangeIndia.com on November 25, 2014, 12:49:10 PM

Quote from: odolvlobo on November 25, 2014, 12:36:29 PM

Prime numbers are not random. There is a well-known algorithm that will generate every prime number in existence.

Are u sure ? Can u plz link it ?

First of all thanks for the logical input from 247casino, Flashman and Odolvlobo! Finding all this fascinating.

Here's a simplistic video brother which just shows how primes are governed/structured:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFuR97YcSLM

I think for Bitcoiners, the main concern here is whether a Private Key can be extrapolated based on only being presented with public key/seed?

I know any given private key can of course be decoded with currently large time factor. But the question is whether a prime-based Primer exists to backdoor SHA-based encryption?

NO

The question is are seed keys for ECC released through NIST from the NSA back doored?

Once you understand IF a special relationship EXISTS between the two seed keys, then that relationship unknown to everyone but the creator of the seed keys (the NSA) then the seed key creator can exploit the seed keys.

That is how the hack was done

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Quote from: BitcoinExchangeIndia.com on November 25, 2014, 12:49:10 PM

Quote from: odolvlobo on November 25, 2014, 12:36:29 PM

Prime numbers are not random. There is a well-known algorithm that will generate every prime number in existence.

Are u sure ? Can u plz link it ?

First of all thanks for the logical input from 247casino, Flashman and Odolvlobo! Finding all this fascinating.

Here's a simplistic video brother which just shows how primes are governed/structured:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFuR97YcSLM

I think for Bitcoiners, the main concern here is whether a Private Key can be extrapolated based on only being presented with public key/seed?

I know any given private key can of course be decoded with currently large time factor. But the question is whether a prime-based Primer exists to backdoor SHA-based encryption?

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Quote from: BitcoinExchangeIndia.com on November 25, 2014, 12:49:10 PM

Quote from: odolvlobo on November 25, 2014, 12:36:29 PM

Prime numbers are not random. There is a well-known algorithm that will generate every prime number in existence.

Are u sure ? Can u plz link it ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieve_of_Eratosthenes

There are several, actually: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generating_primes

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Quote from: odolvlobo on November 25, 2014, 12:36:29 PM

Prime numbers are not random. There is a well-known algorithm that will generate every prime number in existence.

Are u sure ? Can u plz link it ?

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Crypto is backdoored

Just read the Snowden docs

30 Mod Prime Algorithm is how it was done

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Hodl!

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...

It's not primes being hard to find that makes crypto secure.

It's how hard it is to factor large numbers into prime factors.

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Prime numbers are not "random" (according to my understanding of the meaning of "random"). There is a simple well-known algorithm that will generate every prime number in existence.

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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political

If Sol Adoni sock puppets said it, it must be true.

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Quote from: odolvlobo on November 25, 2014, 11:58:53 AM

The prime spiral is interesting, but I'm not sure how significant it is. Although there are interesting visual characteristics, that doesn't mean that they are interesting mathematically. It has been well known that there are certain kinds of numbers that tend to be prime -- Mersenne primes for example.

On the other hand, the Doctor Sol Adonis conspiracy theory/legend is interesting to me.

When you read a math book and it says primes are random, then you see a 30Mod algorithm that shows they're not and you when you realize that primes and hard they are to find supposedly has ruled crypto like RSA for decades you begin to realize, wow, the world is being lied to, primes are not random here is where they are all located.

Then when you realize all the ECC seed keys are released through NSA controlled org's like NIST and you can read professors saying IF there is an UNKNOWN relationship between the seed keys such a relationship could be used to backdoor ECC and then you read the Snowden docs you see ECC is backdoored.

So 30Mod prime theory is what creates the special relationships and it's very real and a major problem for the world that there is now NO CRYPTO that is secure, it's all been back doored by the NSA.

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