8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. - page 77.

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Quote from: JaredKaragen on June 26, 2018, 05:09:32 AM

I have the impression to not buy any more GPU of this generation for mining.

wait for the next round; where things will be back into the green again.

until then, make the best you can with what you have, or turn off and wait for a change before things move up. If you need to shut off for a month or two; I would assume most professional farms have earned a "vacation" from 24/7 work.... at the cost of a month or two rent. I think it would have been one of my professional strategies if I had taken the loan and opened my own legit farm.... but I myself am glad that I didn't. I just kick myself for not spending when I should and could have..... I'd have earned hand over fist more.

Also remember, BTC is reaching it's low. Think back to BTC==$200. We are in that territory again, but since BTC is already established; recovery should be swift. If it is; imagine the profit ratio on the climb of the real "third spike" in price that things of value tend to do when traded......... That's going to be the honey-pot. I think selling anything right now is purely weak hands... unless your business profile dictates it.

But Once BTC rises back up to 10K... profitability I think would be less of a concern for most. 20k+, everyone would be happy.

That's a nice blue sky scenario... but there are arguments against it.
The rise to 20K was a massive pump, aka market manipulation.
The vast majority of BTC are split amongst a few addresses.

Two points that speak against decentralisation AND efficient markets.

Everyone's expecting BTC to break records and get to new crazy highs. Most people haven't even considered that this might just never happen.

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I have the impression to not buy any more GPU of this generation for mining.

wait for the next round; where things will be back into the green again.

until then, make the best you can with what you have, or turn off and wait for a change before things move up. If you need to shut off for a month or two; I would assume most professional farms have earned a "vacation" from 24/7 work.... at the cost of a month or two rent. I think it would have been one of my professional strategies if I had taken the loan and opened my own legit farm.... but I myself am glad that I didn't. I just kick myself for not spending when I should and could have..... I'd have earned hand over fist more.

Also remember, BTC is reaching it's low. Think back to BTC==$200. We are in that territory again, but since BTC is already established; recovery should be swift. If it is; imagine the profit ratio on the climb of the real "third spike" in price that things of value tend to do when traded......... That's going to be the honey-pot. I think selling anything right now is purely weak hands... unless your business profile dictates it.

But Once BTC rises back up to 10K... profitability I think would be less of a concern for most. 20k+, everyone would be happy.

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Quote from: adaseb on June 26, 2018, 03:08:59 AM

Looks like the Equihash ASICs are affecting most GPUs it seems.

Basically I still got a bunch of Radeon 7950/7970/R9 280X from the Litecoin days.

Mined LTC then DARKCOIN then ETH then ZEC with those for the last 5 years or so...

They were mostly on ZEC since the day it came out because the DAG of ETH slowed them down too much.

Luckily they still work on Cryptonight V7 and also can run at the lowest possible voltage (0.950V) while maintaining almost 600H/s. From the wall its like 125 watts or so. Basically seems like a waste of a GPU since these beasts used to pull 350 Watts from the wall each while mining LTC.

Sooner or later will be time to pack them up and probably put them in my museum. Doubt they will go for much on eBay or Craigslist and 80% of them got faulty fans.

Both AMD and NVIDIA farms are mining XMR currently with lowest acceptable hashrate to save on power bill during this poor BTC price and ASICs madness.

Meanwhile, 28 of my 1080ti -- seems like a waste mining CN7 -- all that power but easily matched with cheaper RX Polaris cards..... so I have been testing BYTOM. The algo is "tensority" and currently supported by Bminer ZEC miner v9.

Yes, Antminer B3s are all over this coin too and selling at 3k-ish at Eastshore. I dont see the B3 in the Bitmain shop anymore - wonder why. Specs: 780H/s at 360watts. Currently Top 50 @37 cents, https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bytom/

I have tested mining with my best 1080ti test-rig, ZOTAC AMP Extreme 3xGPU rig getting around 3300H/s capped at 170w per card. Rig running SMOS/bminer v9 (with BYTOM support).

I see Binance listing the coin soon, so looks like this Bytom platform may get a following - reading the project whitepaper - its quite impressive that a full mainnet is already out, at a glance similar to EOS or ADA, but maybe localized only to China market.

Do I smell a winner here -- or do we say bye-bye to GPU mining altogether?

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Looks like the Equihash ASICs are affecting most GPUs it seems.

Basically I still got a bunch of Radeon 7950/7970/R9 280X from the Litecoin days.

Mined LTC then DARKCOIN then ETH then ZEC with those for the last 5 years or so...

They were mostly on ZEC since the day it came out because the DAG of ETH slowed them down too much.

Luckily they still work on Cryptonight V7 and also can run at the lowest possible voltage (0.950V) while maintaining almost 600H/s. From the wall its like 125 watts or so. Basically seems like a waste of a GPU since these beasts used to pull 350 Watts from the wall each while mining LTC.

Sooner or later will be time to pack them up and probably put them in my museum. Doubt they will go for much on eBay or Craigslist and 80% of them got faulty fans.

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Quote from: JaredKaragen on June 25, 2018, 09:56:49 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on June 25, 2018, 09:10:49 PM

Quote from: Elder III on June 25, 2018, 08:55:58 PM

I wonder if those 300,000 GPUs that were supposedly returned to Nvidia from somewhere in Asia were all mining specific GPUs? That could mean that Nvidia has to eat a significant loss on them if they can't sell them to gamers.... hmmm

that is my take. I did watch ohgoditisagirl on you tube she mentioned some cards have a hidden hdmi port.

so with a different plate it could be okay.

i wonder if they will sell them.

Well, what they are telling media outlets is that ther new model's release is pushed back to later this year because of the overage....

yeah I heard that.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on June 25, 2018, 09:10:49 PM

Quote from: Elder III on June 25, 2018, 08:55:58 PM

I wonder if those 300,000 GPUs that were supposedly returned to Nvidia from somewhere in Asia were all mining specific GPUs? That could mean that Nvidia has to eat a significant loss on them if they can't sell them to gamers.... hmmm

that is my take. I did watch ohgoditisagirl on you tube she mentioned some cards have a hidden hdmi port.

so with a different plate it could be okay.

i wonder if they will sell them.

Well, what they are telling media outlets is that ther new model's release is pushed back to later this year because of the overage....

philipma1957

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Quote from: Elder III on June 25, 2018, 08:55:58 PM

I wonder if those 300,000 GPUs that were supposedly returned to Nvidia from somewhere in Asia were all mining specific GPUs? That could mean that Nvidia has to eat a significant loss on them if they can't sell them to gamers.... hmmm

that is my take. I did watch ohgoditisagirl on you tube she mentioned some cards have a hidden hdmi port.

so with a different plate it could be okay.

i wonder if they will sell them.

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I wonder if those 300,000 GPUs that were supposedly returned to Nvidia from somewhere in Asia were all mining specific GPUs? That could mean that Nvidia has to eat a significant loss on them if they can't sell them to gamers.... hmmm

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I moved all rigs to windows/nicehash and all my 1080/1080ti are on daggerhashimoto (using the pill) today.

Z9 is available for pickup today!!!
It's a shame it's not compatible with nicehash...

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: jimmykl on June 25, 2018, 07:32:37 PM

Quote from: R0mi on June 25, 2018, 05:42:54 PM

[.. the pill ..]

And yes, I actually donated -- sounds like very few did.

Hey another donator! Grin

I think there were about 6 others…

i did also.

its amazing all the people that bitch and moan about 0.5 - 2% dev fees and will spend enormous amounts of time and effort trying to bypass it, yet when donation supported software puts money in their pocket they disappear.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on June 25, 2018, 07:42:08 PM

Quote from: JaredKaragen on June 25, 2018, 07:35:24 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on June 25, 2018, 07:29:12 PM

Quote from: JaredKaragen on June 25, 2018, 06:44:15 PM

I remember Lyra2 being top dog in '15....

I'm gonna consider switching to it myself.....

I have been lazy so I have been doing smos to zec to nicehash.

Almost no work just let it run.

I will need to do more work with the cards now.

yeah with everything being so unstable recently, every test I have done has been seemingly less profitable than sitting on xevan till recently..... where I need to do more tests again... but I think ill switch over a few people I service tonight most likely.... I do remember lyra2 being very consistent, but when mona and very's diffs went crazy in early '16, I stepped away into skien.

I have been super lazy with my own gear; its all working on XMR (almost to that 1 XMR payout on nanopool finally) just so I can add it to my portfolio. I dont care about profitability; Ill only sell it in the future if it goes 2-4X what its worth now.... which is realistic. Till then, Ill sit on it.

Working all day for the past few months has been taking its toll on me; was sick all of last week.

Hearing all of the issues with nvidia and shortages, but overages.... its all BS if you ask me. There is still a gpu shortage while in the same paragraph, they will say that nvidia has an overstock of GPU's? such insanity. I know its probably a problem based in symantics, but c'mon... don't talk out of both sides of your mouth Nvidia; we get enough of that in politics.

my take is nvidia built a lot of 102's 104's 106's which are worthless or next to worthless unless they are mining.

I believe they fucked up'd up by making them

they need to help pump a coin then ..

philipma1957

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Quote from: JaredKaragen on June 25, 2018, 07:35:24 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on June 25, 2018, 07:29:12 PM

Quote from: JaredKaragen on June 25, 2018, 06:44:15 PM

I remember Lyra2 being top dog in '15....

I'm gonna consider switching to it myself.....

I have been lazy so I have been doing smos to zec to nicehash.

Almost no work just let it run.

I will need to do more work with the cards now.

yeah with everything being so unstable recently, every test I have done has been seemingly less profitable than sitting on xevan till recently..... where I need to do more tests again... but I think ill switch over a few people I service tonight most likely.... I do remember lyra2 being very consistent, but when mona and very's diffs went crazy in early '16, I stepped away into skien.

I have been super lazy with my own gear; its all working on XMR (almost to that 1 XMR payout on nanopool finally) just so I can add it to my portfolio. I dont care about profitability; Ill only sell it in the future if it goes 2-4X what its worth now.... which is realistic. Till then, Ill sit on it.

Working all day for the past few months has been taking its toll on me; was sick all of last week.

Hearing all of the issues with nvidia and shortages, but overages.... its all BS if you ask me. There is still a gpu shortage while in the same paragraph, they will say that nvidia has an overstock of GPU's? such insanity. I know its probably a problem based in symantics, but c'mon... don't talk out of both sides of your mouth Nvidia; we get enough of that in politics.

my take is nvidia built a lot of 102's 104's 106's which are worthless or next to worthless unless they are mining.

I believe they fucked up'd up by making them

JaredKaragen

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Quote from: philipma1957 on June 25, 2018, 07:29:12 PM

Quote from: JaredKaragen on June 25, 2018, 06:44:15 PM

I remember Lyra2 being top dog in '15....

I'm gonna consider switching to it myself.....

I have been lazy so I have been doing smos to zec to nicehash.

Almost no work just let it run.

I will need to do more work with the cards now.

yeah with everything being so unstable recently, every test I have done has been seemingly less profitable than sitting on xevan till recently..... where I need to do more tests again... but I think ill switch over a few people I service tonight most likely.... I do remember lyra2 being very consistent, but when mona and very's diffs went crazy in early '16, I stepped away into skien.

I have been super lazy with my own gear; its all working on XMR (almost to that 1 XMR payout on nanopool finally) just so I can add it to my portfolio. I dont care about profitability; Ill only sell it in the future if it goes 2-4X what its worth now.... which is realistic. Till then, Ill sit on it.

Working all day for the past few months has been taking its toll on me; was sick all of last week.

Hearing all of the issues with nvidia and shortages, but overages.... its all BS if you ask me. There is still a gpu shortage while in the same paragraph, they will say that nvidia has an overstock of GPU's? such insanity. I know its probably a problem based in symantics, but c'mon... don't talk out of both sides of your mouth Nvidia; we get enough of that in politics.

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Quote from: R0mi on June 25, 2018, 05:42:54 PM

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I don't feel so bad that I just today got around to trying out the ethlargement pill on two very different 1080s and all I can see is, "holy frijoles!" On a 2+ year old EVGA Founders Edition, Ethash went from a pathetic 21 MH/s to 30.5 MH/s and power consumption dropped about 40W. Next I tried it on a much newer Asus RoG Strix 1080 mining CryptoNight (not ideal, I know) and hashrate went from about 540 H/s to about 630 H/s.

However, trying to increase the memory clock rate by +100 caused the FE card to crash so hard I had to hit the reset button. So, be very, very careful with the overclocks while on the pill.

Well, if you don't mess with mem. clock rate too much, and instead bump up the TDP slightly to the 70+ range, on 1080 Ti's pretty easy to get over 50 MH/s on Eth with minimal fuss.

Haven't had any bad crashes using it yet, but I stopped adjusting settings once I got to 53-55 MH/s on Eth.

And yes, I actually donated -- sounds like very few did.

Hey another donator! Grin

I think there were about 6 others…

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Quote from: MagicSmoker on June 25, 2018, 05:37:42 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on June 25, 2018, 05:24:36 PM

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I did not even try the eth- enlargement pill from ogoditisagirl.
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I don't feel so bad that I just today got around to trying out the ethlargement pill on two very different 1080s and all I can see is, "holy frijoles!" On a 2+ year old EVGA Founders Edition, Ethash went from a pathetic 21 MH/s to 30.5 MH/s and power consumption dropped about 40W. Next I tried it on a much newer Asus RoG Strix 1080 mining CryptoNight (not ideal, I know) and hashrate went from about 540 H/s to about 630 H/s.

However, trying to increase the memory clock rate by +100 caused the FE card to crash so hard I had to hit the reset button. So, be very, very careful with the overclocks while on the pill.

Yeah it's the business. I found with 1080tis I was previously overclocking mem +400 that +200 was enough to get mid-50MH/s.

I added your hashrates to the wiki btw https://github.com/OhGodACompany/OhGodAnETHlargementPill/wiki/Hashrate-Results

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Quote from: JaredKaragen on June 25, 2018, 06:44:15 PM

I remember Lyra2 being top dog in '15....

I'm gonna consider switching to it myself.....

I have been lazy so I have been doing smos to zec to nicehash.

Almost no work just let it run.

I will need to do more work with the cards now.

JaredKaragen

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My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?

I remember Lyra2 being top dog in '15....

I'm gonna consider switching to it myself.....

R0mi

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Theranos Coin - IoT + micro-blood arrays = Moon!

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I don't feel so bad that I just today got around to trying out the ethlargement pill on two very different 1080s and all I can see is, "holy frijoles!" On a 2+ year old EVGA Founders Edition, Ethash went from a pathetic 21 MH/s to 30.5 MH/s and power consumption dropped about 40W. Next I tried it on a much newer Asus RoG Strix 1080 mining CryptoNight (not ideal, I know) and hashrate went from about 540 H/s to about 630 H/s.

However, trying to increase the memory clock rate by +100 caused the FE card to crash so hard I had to hit the reset button. So, be very, very careful with the overclocks while on the pill.

Well, if you don't mess with mem. clock rate too much, and instead bump up the TDP slightly to the 70+ range, on 1080 Ti's pretty easy to get over 50 MH/s on Eth with minimal fuss.

Haven't had any bad crashes using it yet, but I stopped adjusting settings once I got to 53-55 MH/s on Eth.

And yes, I actually donated -- sounds like very few did.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on June 25, 2018, 05:24:36 PM

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I did not even try the eth- enlargement pill from ogoditisagirl.
...

I don't feel so bad that I just today got around to trying out the ethlargement pill on two very different 1080s and all I can see is, "holy frijoles!" On a 2+ year old EVGA Founders Edition, Ethash went from a pathetic 21 MH/s to 30.5 MH/s and power consumption dropped about 40W. Next I tried it on a much newer Asus RoG Strix 1080 mining CryptoNight (not ideal, I know) and hashrate went from about 540 H/s to about 630 H/s.

However, trying to increase the memory clock rate by +100 caused the FE card to crash so hard I had to hit the reset button. So, be very, very careful with the overclocks while on the pill.

philipma1957

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Quote from: sNaKeyz0r91 on June 25, 2018, 03:32:51 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on June 25, 2018, 12:37:59 AM

Quote from: martyroz on June 24, 2018, 10:59:12 PM

Quote from: Documan on June 24, 2018, 10:33:35 PM

Do you think it is more profitable to mine ETH with 1080Ti than mining ZEC with the faster memory boost?

Yes for the past month or two, 1080ti are often far better off on lyra's / ETH than any equihash.

I have yet to setup 144 5 or 192 7 equi

but lyra has been winning over standard equihash

Phil, what hashrate do you have with 6x 1080ti on lyra2rev2?

I have 304Mh/s at 160W / card. Lyra2z has about 19 hashrate which wins over lyra2rev2 at payrate.. did you tried lyra2z?

not yet been busy getting ready to do some bathroom reno and fix a leaky foundation wall.

I am lucky I did the lyra2rev2

I also get about 50 a card or 300 for 6 cards.

I need to try the other lyra
I need to try the other equihash algos.

I did not even try the eth- enlargement pill from ogoditisagirl.

with summer coming I slow my mining down a lot.

my house is doing about 2200 watts

the solar array does about 20000 watts

my friends office is at 1200 watts

it is a far cry from December.

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