Topic: 999DICE ACCOUNT WITH 5134 Refs Auction! - page 2. (Read 2633 times)

Quote from: Quickseller on March 31, 2015, 12:25:55 AM

The proud winner can help aid the massive fraud/scam that is 999dice.

You guys always call it a scam because some guy proved that their provably fair system was stupid but as long as you verify each bet the site is fair and it was never proven that they were cheating anyone, or do you have some proofs that im not aware of?

You need to proactively check the seeds prior to placing each bet, otherwise it is very easy for them to cheat users, and it would be impossible to tell after the fact because they might as well have changed the server seed after the fact to produce a loosing roll.

If they know that a user is checking then they will treat them fair

Wich is exactly my point, ''they could be cheating'' But in reality there is no proof for that, i know its impossible to prove, i guess but still you cant call it a scam, as i said and you said if you verify you know the site is playing fair.
But hey if they cheat better for the buyer of the 5k ref account because if the site cheats means that the refs will lose their money guaranteed.

Sarthak

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Quote from: XinXan on March 31, 2015, 12:21:45 AM

Quote from: XinXan on March 31, 2015, 12:21:45 AM

The proud winner can help aid the massive fraud/scam that is 999dice.

You guys always call it a scam because some guy proved that their provably fair system was stupid but as long as you verify each bet the site is fair and it was never proven that they were cheating anyone, or do you have some proofs that im not aware of?

You need to proactively check the seeds prior to placing each bet, otherwise it is very easy for them to cheat users, and it would be impossible to tell after the fact because they might as well have changed the server seed after the fact to produce a loosing roll.

If they know that a user is checking then they will treat them fair

Quickseller, you didn't read the whole story i guess..
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10606766

I will not argue "999DICE doesn't scam" because i don't really know whats running in Jake's Mind but i sincerely hope he is letting it go fair! They Can never cheat you if:

You check server seed+ If you don't Bet in a fixed pattern like (hi,lo,hi,lo,hi,lo),(hi,hi,lo,lo,hi,hi,lo,lo) etc.
That's what i understood till now!

Best way to randomize "hi" and "lo" is to play with a bot and tick the "random(hi or lo)"! I think Human Brain in the long terms follows the same pattern again and again!

I am not really interested in dice now tho! Enough of those dice! Enough losses, enough time waste

I would suggest others to leave these dice and other gambling sites and get involved in something productive Wink

Quickseller

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The proud winner can help aid the massive fraud/scam that is 999dice.

You guys always call it a scam because some guy proved that their provably fair system was stupid but as long as you verify each bet the site is fair and it was never proven that they were cheating anyone, or do you have some proofs that im not aware of?

You need to proactively check the seeds prior to placing each bet, otherwise it is very easy for them to cheat users, and it would be impossible to tell after the fact because they might as well have changed the server seed after the fact to produce a loosing roll.

If they know that a user is checking then they will treat them fair

XinXan

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Quote from: Twipple on March 30, 2015, 09:59:28 AM

The proud winner can help aid the massive fraud/scam that is 999dice.

You guys always call it a scam because some guy proved that their provably fair system was stupid but as long as you verify each bet the site is fair and it was never proven that they were cheating anyone, or do you have some proofs that im not aware of?

Stunna

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Primedice.com, Stake.com

The proud winner can help aid the massive fraud/scam that is 999dice.

Sarthak

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I bid 0.4BTC

Why would you even bid if the op has nothing to show as proof of the earnings actually existing ? You would probably not even bid without any proof.

How can I really prove it? Screen shot can be faked! There is no real way to prove that its earning! Only thing i can do is to give it to a trusted escrow and ask him! But i can't do that because the account isn't mine! It belongs to someone else and i am acting as the middle man between the seller and the buyers! Thank you!

If you do sell it, it will anyways be involving an escrow. So why not just have an escrow check the account out and already have control of it ?

If the sale drops you will anyways be getting the account back. And no matter that the screenshot is faked. Because the involvement of escrow in the later stage will be exactly for that purpose.

I am again telling you that I am not the owner of that account! I am acting as a middleman between the seller and buyer! I really don't know if the seller would be really interested in giving hold of his account to a third party! Plus the seller seem offline for 24+ hours..have to wait for him to come back online to ask him to do that

Twipple

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Quote from: XinXan on March 30, 2015, 06:26:00 AM

I bid 0.4BTC

Why would you even bid if the op has nothing to show as proof of the earnings actually existing ? You would probably not even bid without any proof.

How can I really prove it? Screen shot can be faked! There is no real way to prove that its earning! Only thing i can do is to give it to a trusted escrow and ask him! But i can't do that because the account isn't mine! It belongs to someone else and i am acting as the middle man between the seller and the buyers! Thank you!

If you do sell it, it will anyways be involving an escrow. So why not just have an escrow check the account out and already have control of it ?

If the sale drops you will anyways be getting the account back. And no matter that the screenshot is faked. Because the involvement of escrow in the later stage will be exactly for that purpose.

Sarthak

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I bid 0.4BTC

Why would you even bid if the op has nothing to show as proof of the earnings actually existing ? You would probably not even bid without any proof.

How can I really prove it? Screen shot can be faked! There is no real way to prove that its earning! Only thing i can do is to give it to a trusted escrow and ask him! But i can't do that because the account isn't mine! It belongs to someone else and i am acting as the middle man between the seller and the buyers! Thank you!

The only way would be to make a video, log in to the account and just show the day and the stats on the webpage, a video is way harder to fake, i think that would satisfy anyone.

Ty for the suggestion! Let's wait for the seller to come online!

kingbite

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This is a scam site.
Would be hard to you to sell the account even for 2 satoshis.

XinXan

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Quote from: vual on March 30, 2015, 12:04:22 AM

I bid 0.4BTC

Why would you even bid if the op has nothing to show as proof of the earnings actually existing ? You would probably not even bid without any proof.

How can I really prove it? Screen shot can be faked! There is no real way to prove that its earning! Only thing i can do is to give it to a trusted escrow and ask him! But i can't do that because the account isn't mine! It belongs to someone else and i am acting as the middle man between the seller and the buyers! Thank you!

The only way would be to make a video, log in to the account and just show the day and the stats on the webpage, a video is way harder to fake, i think that would satisfy anyone.

Sarthak

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None will pay what you want so are you selling to me for my highest bid or now ??
This isnt even a fucken auction is it, MOD should move...

I can't go for less than 0.7! 0.4 is too low! 5k refs is a big amount! Its hard to make that much!

Sarthak

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Quote from: thebitcoinquiz.com on March 30, 2015, 03:30:26 AM

I bid 0.4BTC

Why would you even bid if the op has nothing to show as proof of the earnings actually existing ? You would probably not even bid without any proof.

How can I really prove it? Screen shot can be faked! There is no real way to prove that its earning! Only thing i can do is to give it to a trusted escrow and ask him! But i can't do that because the account isn't mine! It belongs to someone else and i am acting as the middle man between the seller and the buyers! Thank you!

XinXan

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Quote from: Sarthak on March 28, 2015, 11:17:44 AM

Quote from: Nobitcoin on March 28, 2015, 11:14:54 AM

Why such a high starting bid? How much do you make from your refs on average per month?

High bid because it just makes loads of money! You earn 5k-10k doggies per day, 0.001 ltc per day( LTC refs are less) and 200k to 500k satoshi a day! Do the maths!

I really doubt if you can make that kind of money on 999dice because 999dice is already a proven scam site and there are hardly any people who play over there and so that much earning from referrals isn't really possible(cause people don't play there).

I bid 0.4BTC

Just read the warning given by Qyickseller in the 5th post.

Well its not really proven scam, its just proven to have a bad provably fair system that was really hard yo verify, but if you verify each bet (there is a bot for it) its fair. Even if it wasnt i can tell you that a lot of people play there, just take a look at their profit, 2600 bitcoins.

Twipple

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Quote from: Sarthak on March 28, 2015, 11:17:44 AM

I bid 0.4BTC

Why would you even bid if the op has nothing to show as proof of the earnings actually existing ? You would probably not even bid without any proof.

thebitcoinquiz.com

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Quote from: Nobitcoin on March 28, 2015, 11:14:54 AM

Why such a high starting bid? How much do you make from your refs on average per month?

High bid because it just makes loads of money! You earn 5k-10k doggies per day, 0.001 ltc per day( LTC refs are less) and 200k to 500k satoshi a day! Do the maths!

I really doubt if you can make that kind of money on 999dice because 999dice is already a proven scam site and there are hardly any people who play over there and so that much earning from referrals isn't really possible(cause people don't play there).