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jr. member
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February 25, 2018, 07:52:06 AM
#27
Hi folks and friends from BCT!

I'm here asking for advice once again, as we're planning to make a $30,000 usd investment in GPU mining:

10 rigs using:

Comp:ModelPriceFinal price
GPU:Msi Armor Radeon 580 8gb$384(x6!)$2,304
MB:Msi Z270-A Pro$152$152
Micro:Celeron G3930$36$36
RAM:Corsair VS DDR4 4GB$73$73
PSU:NZXT Hale90 or alike$136$136
Final price:$2,701

The prices have been converted to USD so it might change a little bit, and yes, in my country the taxes aren't the best ever.
Like I mentioned, we're planning to buy 10 units like this mostly for Ethereum mining, so I would really appreciate your advice before proceeding with the order.

I have been wondering how long it might take before ETH goes PoS, and assuming it does, there should be a few other coins that are worth for GPU mining, right?

What are your thoughts? Is there any better investment that I might not be considering? Or any missing risk?

Kind regards;
Chris C. Russo

One option is to use the Octominer B8PLUS, https://octominer.com/product/octominer_b8plus/
New batch of boards will be in stock in less than 2 weeks. The advantage is that this board comes with 8 full size PCIe slots, no need for risers like the MSI board has. Also the octominer board has built in Intel Mobile 3855u CPU , which makes it very energy efficient.

What about warranty on that b8plus?

1 year warranty for the Octominer B8PLUS. We will have service and warranty centres opened up soon in USA and Europe also.
legendary
Activity: 2366
Merit: 1408
January 24, 2018, 05:46:14 AM
#26
I think that it's not the right time to buy a rig, buy a coin directly, the coins are very cheap at the moment, and in the next spike you could gain a lot of money to buy your rigs, and the prices of GPUs now are insane
member
Activity: 114
Merit: 10
January 24, 2018, 05:41:44 AM
#25
Nowadays $384 target price for that GPU is becoming hard to find ! it's running ~500 USD for same gpu on amazon !
member
Activity: 118
Merit: 10
January 24, 2018, 04:19:46 AM
#24
Is it stock clocks and voltage, if not lower clocks and go up with voltage.
How hot it get?
member
Activity: 134
Merit: 10
January 23, 2018, 11:43:34 PM
#23
These are the risers I'm using...



Now, I'm not sure how it could be happening, as I replace them, the new ones seem to be running without any problem. But the error wont show up as soon as I turn on the miner... it actually runs for 20 or 40 minutes, or even a few hours, and then it shows up "GPU X hangs in opencl call..."

I've been replacing all the risers for those GPUs so far... and it seems to be working for now... but, how can it be possible that it runs for hours before getting unstable?

Kind regards;
Chris
newbie
Activity: 312
Merit: 0
January 23, 2018, 05:30:08 PM
#22
I actually like that octominer, but I alraedy bought... I wish you good luck however on the sales. Perhaps once I replace the current batch...
I never had so many fckd up risers in my life before...

Where and what risers u have?
newbie
Activity: 312
Merit: 0
January 23, 2018, 05:28:19 PM
#21
Hi folks and friends from BCT!

I'm here asking for advice once again, as we're planning to make a $30,000 usd investment in GPU mining:

10 rigs using:

Comp:ModelPriceFinal price
GPU:Msi Armor Radeon 580 8gb$384(x6!)$2,304
MB:Msi Z270-A Pro$152$152
Micro:Celeron G3930$36$36
RAM:Corsair VS DDR4 4GB$73$73
PSU:NZXT Hale90 or alike$136$136
Final price:$2,701

The prices have been converted to USD so it might change a little bit, and yes, in my country the taxes aren't the best ever.
Like I mentioned, we're planning to buy 10 units like this mostly for Ethereum mining, so I would really appreciate your advice before proceeding with the order.

I have been wondering how long it might take before ETH goes PoS, and assuming it does, there should be a few other coins that are worth for GPU mining, right?

What are your thoughts? Is there any better investment that I might not be considering? Or any missing risk?

Kind regards;
Chris C. Russo

One option is to use the Octominer B8PLUS, https://octominer.com/product/octominer_b8plus/
New batch of boards will be in stock in less than 2 weeks. The advantage is that this board comes with 8 full size PCIe slots, no need for risers like the MSI board has. Also the octominer board has built in Intel Mobile 3855u CPU , which makes it very energy efficient.

What about warranty on that b8plus?
member
Activity: 134
Merit: 10
January 23, 2018, 05:02:59 PM
#20
I actually like that octominer, but I alraedy bought... I wish you good luck however on the sales. Perhaps once I replace the current batch...
I never had so many fckd up risers in my life before...
jr. member
Activity: 248
Merit: 8
January 23, 2018, 03:56:40 PM
#19
Hi folks and friends from BCT!

I'm here asking for advice once again, as we're planning to make a $30,000 usd investment in GPU mining:

10 rigs using:

Comp:ModelPriceFinal price
GPU:Msi Armor Radeon 580 8gb$384(x6!)$2,304
MB:Msi Z270-A Pro$152$152
Micro:Celeron G3930$36$36
RAM:Corsair VS DDR4 4GB$73$73
PSU:NZXT Hale90 or alike$136$136
Final price:$2,701

The prices have been converted to USD so it might change a little bit, and yes, in my country the taxes aren't the best ever.
Like I mentioned, we're planning to buy 10 units like this mostly for Ethereum mining, so I would really appreciate your advice before proceeding with the order.

I have been wondering how long it might take before ETH goes PoS, and assuming it does, there should be a few other coins that are worth for GPU mining, right?

What are your thoughts? Is there any better investment that I might not be considering? Or any missing risk?

Kind regards;
Chris C. Russo

One option is to use the Octominer B8PLUS, https://octominer.com/product/octominer_b8plus/
New batch of boards will be in stock in less than 2 weeks. The advantage is that this board comes with 8 full size PCIe slots, no need for risers like the MSI board has. Also the octominer board has built in Intel Mobile 3855u CPU , which makes it very energy efficient.
newbie
Activity: 182
Merit: 0
January 23, 2018, 03:40:35 PM
#18
The ram and GPU is really expensive.
The RAM is expensive. The GPUs, though?
hero member
Activity: 785
Merit: 502
January 23, 2018, 03:32:41 PM
#17
Hi folks and friends from BCT!

I'm here asking for advice once again, as we're planning to make a $30,000 usd investment in GPU mining:

10 rigs using:

Comp:ModelPriceFinal price
GPU:Msi Armor Radeon 580 8gb$384(x6!)$2,304
MB:Msi Z270-A Pro$152$152
Micro:Celeron G3930$36$36
RAM:Corsair VS DDR4 4GB$73$73
PSU:NZXT Hale90 or alike$136$136
Final price:$2,701

The prices have been converted to USD so it might change a little bit, and yes, in my country the taxes aren't the best ever.
Like I mentioned, we're planning to buy 10 units like this mostly for Ethereum mining, so I would really appreciate your advice before proceeding with the order.

I have been wondering how long it might take before ETH goes PoS, and assuming it does, there should be a few other coins that are worth for GPU mining, right?

What are your thoughts? Is there any better investment that I might not be considering? Or any missing risk?

Kind regards;
Chris C. Russo

I hope that is a fake name this isnt a letterboard its a message board/forum lol.
member
Activity: 134
Merit: 10
January 23, 2018, 02:54:12 PM
#16
Most time, usb or riser is the solution Wink But also a damaged gpu could be.

You have pictures of your build?

Nothing really fancy yet... the apartment is a mess, full of wires and stuff at this point!

I'm testing the risers today

Thanks;
Chris
newbie
Activity: 46
Merit: 0
January 23, 2018, 12:53:41 PM
#15
wait until prices drop, equipment is crazy expensive right now.

Yeah, it's insane how much the prices has sky rocketed.. makes me cry
member
Activity: 143
Merit: 10
January 23, 2018, 03:43:33 AM
#14
wait until prices drop, equipment is crazy expensive right now.
member
Activity: 118
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January 23, 2018, 03:20:33 AM
#13
Most time, usb or riser is the solution Wink But also a damaged gpu could be.

You have pictures of your build?
member
Activity: 134
Merit: 10
January 23, 2018, 03:14:01 AM
#12
Bad riser or usb cable? Could you check this gpu in a other pc would be the best check Wink

It's my main suspect. Didn't want to mention it tho, to avoid biasing... I'm taking notes of the ones that fail, and I'll simply replace (card+riser) and see what happens...
member
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January 23, 2018, 03:11:35 AM
#11
Bad riser or usb cable? Could you check this gpu in a other pc would be the best check Wink
member
Activity: 134
Merit: 10
January 23, 2018, 02:49:45 AM
#10
Hi everyone again,

Finally I got around 54 cards + 6 I already had... actually 6 less than expected.

The cards have been all flashed using ATIWinFlash and PolarisBE "1 click magic".

As well, I managed to run 6 cards (Sapphire Pulse Rx580 8GB) on 1050W PSU.

Now, I have installed SMOS on each one, but most of them are having issues like "GPU 1 hangs in opencl call"

First I thought it was the undervolting, so I tested with another 1200W PSU, and without undervolting... same problem.

Then I thought about the overclocking, so I underclocked from SMOS/Claymore to run Core Clock @1100 (vs 1366) and Memory clock @1800 (vs 2000) I had the feeling it was more stable, but then again... same "GPU X hangs in opencl call" errors...

Any idea what could be causing it?

Kind regards;
Chris
member
Activity: 115
Merit: 10
January 03, 2018, 03:15:27 AM
#9
whenever you buy miners, the static ROI will be some 6~8 months.  But look in future, you may get all your costs in a short time.
sr. member
Activity: 700
Merit: 294
January 03, 2018, 01:50:02 AM
#8
What are your goals?

I would aim to run for 12 months at least with these cards mining Ethereum if possible, if PoS happens before, I'll have to move to another coin...

I guess the question should have been more qualified.  Why Ethereum specifically?  Are you going to be keeping the coins, or selling them?  If you are planning on keeping them, is it for price speculation?

What happens after 12 months?  Why not diversify your coins now?



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What are your expectations for capital expense recovery? (some people call it ROI erroneously)

Calculating the hardware cost, and electricity, I'd assume that the capital would be recover after 7 to 8 months, assuming that ETH prices stay the same. But I'm certainly not planning to sell it quickly.

That would be a bad assumption.  Difficulty will eat into your Eth rewards over time, especially if you aren't upgrading your equipment to keep up.  Also, when POS is finally given a date, expect a giant surge in network hashrate and difficulty on Ethereum to happen from that moment.  People will be scrambling to get the last bits of Eth that they can mine before POS hits.


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What kind of expectations do your investors have?

I'm starting this on my own to be honest.

Very nice!  It's best not to owe someone a cut of your proceeds.


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Where are you going to be setting up the rigs?

A flat with proper connection, security and AC, with proper ventilation.

10 rigs will test your patience with the amount of noise and heat they will generate.  I wish you good luck here.  You will have 60 RX 580s running at say 120 Watts each... that's a 7200 Watt heater.  It's certainly doable, but you will need some good ventilation, as air conditioning in a typical flat will struggle to keep up.  7200 Watts is like turning on your oven and leaving the door open.  Ventilation will need to take into account the incoming air and the outgoing air.  You don't want fans pulling in cool air from your air conditioned house just to ventilate it outside.


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Do they have appropriate power and ventilation?

So far I didn't have any problem with one rig, and there's enough space, I'm not sure about the power/electricity instalation, it's worth to take a look at this.

You definitely have to look at this.  After the efficiency loss on the PSUs, and the addition of watts from your motherboards and CPUs, you will probably be pulling more than 8000 Watts.  You'll be using 36+ amps.  Many apartments don't have that kind of power available to them, especially at 220V (depending on what country you are in.)


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Do you have proper internet, networking and other infrastructure available?

Yes, that shouldn't be a problem, I believe.

Yes, in a flat, you could do this, I was assuming you would be looking to build in a warehouse space or something.  Sometimes, it's hard to get internet, enough power, ventilation, and security at these locations.  Plus, you need to have some sort of control over the rigs, since they aren't just in the next room.  You will have problems, rigs crashing, etc.  You need a way to automate getting them back up and running... even if it's just a VPN connection, and RDP, or something like Simple Rig Resetter, or a Raspberry Pi and some relays.  You could even go with networked PDUs to reset rigs... though those are a bit more expensive.  Smart outlets might work too, like a Weemo.

But since this is going to be in your flat, then some of these problems aren't too bad.  But things always seem to happen when you are out of the flat, or out of town.  So it's important to think about these things.


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Do you have any plans for expansion?

Certainly not... like I said before, I started with one, and it didn't go bad at all, so I'm willing to increase a bit more the bet. The worst thing that could happen, might be running out of coins to be mined with these GPUs, but I don't have any information to make me think it might happen any time soon...

Like I said... there are hundreds of coins.  Some are better than others, and I think there will be a market for miners for a very long time.


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Hi Puwaha, and thanks a lot for your ideas! I've been mining ETH since 8 months already with the same hardware and without any problems. I'm aware about the Vega 56 and Vega 64, but prices are about twice here, compared with the Rx580 8GB, and the hashrate doesn't seems to change that much.

Vega 56 does Cryptonight at 1900+ hashes per second.  They make a ton of money on those coins right now.  An RX 580 only does about 700 hashes per second.  Huge difference.  Vega doesn't have that great a difference on Ethash, but it is significantly better.  But like you said, Vegas are expensive, and very difficult to find at decent prices right now.  But once they do start to come back on the market, you will see difficulties on the coins it does well erupt.


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Also I thought about Nvidia 1070, as I know they have better performance in more mining algorithms, but the price is +30% compared to the Radeon once again...

Don't just look at one coin.  There are coins that the 1070 mines very well, and will return a lot more money than an RX 580.

But, ultimately, it's your strategy, and you have to justify your purchases, and follow your plan.
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