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Quote from: Smoovious on September 26, 2012, 01:36:02 AM

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Quote from: odolvlobo on September 26, 2012, 01:10:53 AM

I agree that it could have been handled better -- more securely. But that post simply suggests that there could be problems. Anyway, it seems pretty simple to me, though it is a big hassle for Goat and his shareholders.

Yes there could be problems and this could end up in a disaster.

Yep... could end up in disaster, certainly...

However, since GLBSE doesn't manage your asset-holder lists for you anymore, there is no longer someone else to blame and use as a scapegoat, so any disaster from this point forward will be your own fault, and yours alone.

-- Smoov

All he has to do is setup a google contact form and people can paste their code in and some contact details,including dividend address. Not that hard really.

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Quote from: odolvlobo on September 26, 2012, 01:10:53 AM

I agree that it could have been handled better -- more securely. But that post simply suggests that there could be problems. Anyway, it seems pretty simple to me, though it is a big hassle for Goat and his shareholders.

Yes there could be problems and this could end up in a disaster.

Yep... could end up in disaster, certainly...

However, since GLBSE doesn't manage your asset-holder lists for you anymore, there is no longer someone else to blame and use as a scapegoat, so any disaster from this point forward will be your own fault, and yours alone.

-- Smoov

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Quote from: odolvlobo on September 26, 2012, 12:57:34 AM

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Quote from: Elraffa on September 25, 2012, 02:23:38 PM

Holy crap, I have no idea what's going on here. Huh

So, Goat, should I contact you with my claim code? Is there a plan?

Only GLBSE can accepts the claim code. This explains why rather well...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1219930

Just give your code to GLBSE and once you get back your assets maybe we can work something out.

This is misinformation. Goat is trying to confuse his customers, hoping they get angry at GLBSE. The fact is that Goat holds your shares. The claim code is used by Goat to verify that you are the owner of the shares.

GLBSE have given shareholders a claim code that they are suppose to give to Goat so that he can track shareholders himself. Goat has a list of claim codes and the number of shares associated with each code. Shareholders should contact Goat with the claim code and contact information. The result of this is that shareholders can only trade shares with Goat until he lists the shares on another exchange. Once he has moved to another exchange, shareholders can trade with others again.

Please read this post

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1219930

Thank you.

I agree that it could have been handled better -- more securely. But that post simply suggests that there could be problems. Anyway, it seems pretty simple to me, though it is a big hassle for Goat and his shareholders.

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Quote from: Elraffa on September 25, 2012, 02:23:38 PM

Holy crap, I have no idea what's going on here. Huh

So, Goat, should I contact you with my claim code? Is there a plan?

Only GLBSE can accepts the claim code. This explains why rather well...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1219930

Just give your code to GLBSE and once you get back your assets maybe we can work something out.

This is misinformation. Goat is trying to confuse his customers, hoping they get angry at GLBSE. The fact is that Goat holds your shares. The claim code is used by Goat to verify that you are the owner of the shares.

GLBSE has given shareholders a claim code that they are suppose to give to Goat so that he can track shareholders himself. Goat has a list of claim codes and the number of shares associated with each code. Shareholders should contact Goat with the claim code and contact information. The result of this is that shareholders can only trade shares with Goat until he lists the shares on another exchange. Once he has moved to another exchange, shareholders can trade with others again.

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Holy crap, I have no idea what's going on here. Huh

So, Goat, should I contact you with my claim code? Is there a plan?

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Quote from: Nefario on September 25, 2012, 10:42:13 AM

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Quote from: coinft on September 25, 2012, 03:08:41 AM

What's up with this, it is marked as delisted on GLBSE and I see a strange claims code in my portfolio?

Nefario voided the asset. We are not really sure why.

The asset has not been voided. It has been delisted from GLBSE.

Goat is still under obligation to fulfill his contract with the asset holder

To claim your asset, contact Goat and give him your claim code, he has a list of all codes and how many of the asset they hold.

I have explained in numerous threads why this has been delisted.

That's between you and Goat, and I withold I final judgement, but communication with GLBSE customers has been sadly lacking. If the asset violated some code of conduct I expected this would have been noted on the share listing, together with a deadline for remedy. But now asset holders were left in the dark with no information. This is not just Goat's problem, it reflects negatively on GLBSE too.

Also the delisting transaction (removal of my shares from my account) is not found in the history. I regard the CSV history as a major feature of GLBSE, but this and an earlier retcon seriously devalue it, and trust in GLBSE in general.

Nefario, running a business, you need more focus on your customers needs and wants.

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Quote from: coinft on September 25, 2012, 03:08:41 AM

What's up with this, it is marked as delisted on GLBSE and I see a strange claims code in my portfolio?

Nefario voided the asset. We are not really sure why.

The asset has not been voided. It has been delisted from GLBSE.

Goat is still under obligation to fulfill his contract with the asset holder

To claim your asset, contact Goat and give him your claim code, he has a list of all codes and how many of the asset they hold.

I have explained in numerous threads why this has been delisted.

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What's up with this, it is marked as delisted on GLBSE and I see a strange claims code in my portfolio?

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If the current blockexplorer average interval between blocks is to be believed, then difficulty changes every 12.6 days:
http://blockexplorer.com/q/interval

So, stochastically.com puts the Div Yield at 4.52%. That's 2.64% for 7 days. By comparison, Gigamining currently has 1.67%, Bitbond 1.81%. Right? I really like this asset, but the ROI calculation is a PITA. Math is hard. I shouldn't do investing. :-)

http://www.stochastically.com

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So, am I the only one buying these?

0.008 BTC dividend per share (and shares went for 0.15 BTC) isn't too shabby. Even when the "payout after difficulty change"-system is taken into account.

Is my math completely off on this? Huh

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Quote from: Maged on May 26, 2012, 01:40:11 AM

Note: A complaint that Goat isn't buying back bonds upon request has been moved here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/re-glbse-tygrrbond-a-1mhs-pps-perpetual-bonds-83722

Please consider reading the above thread before investing.
Sorry Goat, but it wouldn't be fair to the investors if I didn't add this disclaimer

Looks like the guy overreacted a bit. Is it written somewhere that the share issuer has to buy back bonds ? I don't think so.

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Note: A complaint that Goat isn't buying back bonds upon request has been moved here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/re-glbse-tygrrbond-a-1mhs-pps-perpetual-bonds-83722

Please consider reading the above thread before investing.
Sorry Goat, but it wouldn't be fair to the investors if I didn't add this disclaimer

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Divs?

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If this sells out I would be willing to put the first 1000BTC of payments in escrow.

Been quiet in here. Are you planning on releasing the rest of the shares? Preferably before the next difficulty change?

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What's the exact starting time + date for these shares? Will you only issue more shares in the future at difficulty changes or how else will you handle selling more shares during a 2016 blocks period?

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What's the buyback price if the asset was not traded in the prior 168 hours?

Do you actually HAVE this hash rate or is this a purely virtual asset (paying out as if it was mined)?

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Why are there 500k bonds? Are you going to run 500Gh?

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Will this be listed on the GLBSE?

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Cool. I'll buy some.

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