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Topic: A bankster in the UK wants to ban big bills (Read 3957 times)

legendary
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November 23, 2015, 01:26:29 AM
#68
Let our governments keep their paper.  We have the good stuff and its only getting better.  The more small bills they take away from us the more valuable our hash will be....smile....they can't stop the cash flow by burning paper anymore because it would only strengthen the crypto-movement.  Let them them do it!!!!
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November 22, 2015, 08:49:11 PM
#67
The Scot's still have the £100 note.
But it's kind of puny compared to a Giant(£1 million) or a Titan(£100 million). Embarrassed
Check these notes out.
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21145103
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November 22, 2015, 06:30:48 PM
#66
When people are gonna understand that banning everything is not the best option, and in fact encourage complete opposite actions almost every time.
Look what happened in US when alcohol were banned total corruption, rise of mafia, look what is happening with drug business and illegal sex business now.



The banning  to prevent misuse is just wrong. When people become desperate they try to implement desperate measures.

This measure is just one of them. It will not prevent anything at all
legendary
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November 22, 2015, 05:03:30 PM
#65
When people are gonna understand that banning everything is not the best option to solve problems, and in fact encourage complete opposite actions almost every time.
Look what happened in US when alcohol were banned - total corruption, rise of mafia, look what is happening with drug business and illegal sex business now.

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SkyFall
November 22, 2015, 04:05:29 PM
#64
Forget it. I won't happen. People need to buy bigger wallets for simple purchases.

Some idiot politician looking for some attention, we are giving him..
hero member
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November 22, 2015, 01:34:18 PM
#63
They are already enacting laws to ban purchases with sums larger than 5000€ in cash.

This is not so that they can track mobsters, this is capital control and banker takeover.

The only reason they do this is so they know what civilians are doing. it's just a step closer to Big Brother, where everything we do is being monitored.

sr. member
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November 22, 2015, 12:51:09 PM
#62
The idea is good, big  transactions can be done easily by a bank transfer/creditcard. And so criminials need to do more effort.

However paying for smart television with 100 bills is not something we should want either.

Your argument is good but you make a thinking error. If a politician wants something (even it is not good for their civilians), it will be done.

Politics is no democracy these days, but egocentric maniacs paid by big firms.
sr. member
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November 22, 2015, 12:37:58 PM
#61
The idea is good, big  transactions can be done easily by a bank transfer/creditcard. And so criminials need to do more effort.

However paying for smart television with 100 bills is not something we should want either.
newbie
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November 22, 2015, 12:22:47 PM
#60
In Schweden they banned now all banknotes.
  Angry

They want to tax you more and more until nobody is left to tax.
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September 29, 2015, 10:41:21 PM
#59
In Japan everybody is using the 10 000 yens bill (the biggest available). But personally I like the 1000 yens bill for everyday purchases.
Japan is still using cash pretty much everywhere. There are even places like chain restaurants that will only accept cash because they are using tickets vending machines. You can even pay "cash on delivery" if you order anything on the internet, or just buy a gift card from a conbini (convenience store open 24/24) near by.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
September 29, 2015, 06:52:17 PM
#58

Maybe you're not British. I'm not, and British weather is doing all it can to prevent me from spending time in the UK, and yet, I have more experience with £50 notes than you have. I haven't used a credit card this week, nor the week before.


I am indeed. Perhaps they're handed over more readily by foreign exchange bureaus. If I were to be given a wad of them I'd be looking to change them going on my own experiences. Twenties are ubiquitous. A fist full of fifties will invoke wonder in most Brits and they'll assume you're a scrap merchant or drug dealer.
legendary
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September 29, 2015, 06:19:30 PM
#57
The biggest note in the UK is the £50 note. In my entire life I have handled one three times. Each time not a single business would accept them and I had to go to a bank to deposit it instead. Looks like it's a voluntary ban to me.

Maybe you're not British. I'm not, and British weather is doing all it can to prevent me from spending time in the UK, and yet, I have more experience with £50 notes than you have. I haven't used a credit card this week, nor the week before.

Yes, there's a war on cash, and I'm proud to be in the resistance. I once had 8 1,000 CHF notes in my hand (only for a few minutes, though), and let me tell you something: it's a really great feeling.
legendary
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September 29, 2015, 04:39:28 AM
#56
...

A bankster at the Bank of England (Charles Goodhart) wants to ban 500 Euro notes as well as 1000 Swiss Franc (that would be some $1050) notes as well.  That will get tongues wagging in the USA to ban our $100...

The War on Cash is ramping up.  Another terrible idea as part of the campaign to destroy our privacy.  Read all about it:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-25/goodbye-100-bill-ex-central-banker-demands-all-high-denomination-banknotes-should-be

There are factors that inhibit this request. Not only this. But request bigger banknotes while the time goes on. One of those factors is inflation. The inflation make that if today I buy the bread 1 dollar after ten years I will buy it 10 dollars. If we make comparisons with other goods which cost more and if we will accept the request of this banker to buy something which today cost 1 000 us dollar and after ten years 10 000 us dollars. in the day of shopping we must have a big sack with us full with banknotes with low value and two police man which must guard me from the thieves.

It is another think if it will be "invented" a deflationary economy. In that case the proposition is totally possible. I want to make a parenthesis here: This could be possible if every country in the world (or even one) adopt a currency similar with bitcoin. That economy could be (have the possibility) to be deflationary.

But with our situation I think that the future will deserve always banknotes with bigger value and not abolish they that actually have the biggest value.
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September 28, 2015, 10:23:58 PM
#55
Gold is much easier to counterfeit. You can have wolfram-lead bars coated with a thin gold outer layer, by weight they would be the same if mixed correctly.

Only a specialist with ultrasound can detect the scam. Of course if you buy the gold from a reputable dealer the chances of getting scammer is low.

But if you buy it from a shady local dealer, then it might happen. Thousands of people get scammed by this worldwide.

You seem to be very unfamiliar with the gold trade. If you buy gold in "bulk", i.e. non-standardized gold bars, and from a shady source, you can always drill the gold ingot. Gold is soft while tungsten is one of the hardest metals out there (twice as hard as steel), and you would need a special drill bit to do the trick (that is, to drill through a tungsten bar)...

Well you dont wanna drill a hole in all bars, especially not before you buy them, nobody will drill a hole in their bars just for demonstration, to ruin it.

Its easier with an ultrasound machine to check its density, but not many people come equipped with that, especially if you buy a "gold" ring that is actually some cheap mix coated with gold.
legendary
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September 28, 2015, 10:14:28 PM
#54
Gold is much easier to counterfeit. You can have wolfram-lead bars coated with a thin gold outer layer, by weight they would be the same if mixed correctly.

Only a specialist with ultrasound can detect the scam. Of course if you buy the gold from a reputable dealer the chances of getting scammer is low.

But if you buy it from a shady local dealer, then it might happen. Thousands of people get scammed by this worldwide.

You seem to be very unfamiliar with the gold trade. If you buy gold in "bulk", i.e. non-standardized gold bars, and from a shady source, you can always drill the gold ingot. Gold is soft while tungsten is one of the hardest metals out there (twice as hard as steel), and you would need a special drill bit to do the trick (that is, to drill through a tungsten bar)...


Yes.

I buy 1 oz gold coins (US Eagles).  Au Eagles have 1 toz of (24 kt) gold as well as some Cu and Ag to make them sturdier.  Still there are fake 1 oz Eagles out there made of tungsten, I recently watched a YouTube video on some fakes that fooled the buyer at a coin store (until the owner or expert got a GOOD look at them).  One oz Eagles are also less "profitable" to fake, but apparently they ARE out there.  I have never seen one.

Also, Gold Eagles have a very clear & beautiful "ring" to them, balance one on your fingertip and strike it lightly along the rim with a quarter.  The ring goes on and on, very satisfying.

Tungsten just makes a click/thud kind of sound.

The above "ring test", along with a scale that weighs to 0.1 gm (so a Gold Eagle weighs about 33.9 gm) is enough to catch them all.
legendary
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September 28, 2015, 07:58:52 AM
#53
Gold is much easier to counterfeit. You can have wolfram-lead bars coated with a thin gold outer layer, by weight they would be the same if mixed correctly.

Only a specialist with ultrasound can detect the scam. Of course if you buy the gold from a reputable dealer the chances of getting scammer is low.

But if you buy it from a shady local dealer, then it might happen. Thousands of people get scammed by this worldwide.

You seem to be very unfamiliar with the gold trade. If you buy gold in "bulk", i.e. non-standardized gold bars, and from a shady source, you can always drill the gold ingot. Gold is soft while tungsten is one of the hardest metals out there (twice as hard as steel), and you would need a special drill bit to do the trick (that is, to drill through a tungsten bar)...
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September 28, 2015, 07:37:36 AM
#52
I think having 1000 notes is a bix extreme and they must be a big target for counterfeiters but I can't imagine many places accept them. In my country most shops wont accept 50 notes because of the chance of them being counterfeit. In fact it is very rare to see them at all and I have only ever see a couple in my lifetime. Trying to ban them just because criminals use them is sill though but maybe we should ban banks too since they're the biggest criminals.

If you have read the posts after your reply, you might have already seen that this contention is quite dubious and shaky. It may indeed be true that counterfeiters aim for the larger denominations of the same currency, but, as it has been revealed, this can be easily overcome by implementing state of the art anti-counterfeiting measures. The 1,000 Swiss frank banknote has the largest denomination as well as purchasing power among major monies out there, but it is 5 times less likely to be counterfeited than the 500 Euro banknote, second in purchasing power. The latter is still less likely to be faked than the 100 US dollar bill, which comes next in purchasing power...

Thereby, given the global nature of today's world, counterfeiters should necessarily aim for the weakest currency (in terms of protection), not the largest denomination (purchasing power) between monies

Gold is much easier to counterfeit. You can have wolfram-lead bars coated with a thin gold outer layer, by weight they would be the same if mixed correctly.

Only a specialist with ultrasound can detect the scam. Of course if you buy the gold from a reputable dealer the chances of getting scammer is low.

But if you buy it from a shady local dealer, then it might happen. Thousands of people get scammed by this worldwide.
legendary
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September 28, 2015, 04:03:11 AM
#51
I think having 1000 notes is a bix extreme and they must be a big target for counterfeiters but I can't imagine many places accept them. In my country most shops wont accept 50 notes because of the chance of them being counterfeit. In fact it is very rare to see them at all and I have only ever see a couple in my lifetime. Trying to ban them just because criminals use them is sill though but maybe we should ban banks too since they're the biggest criminals.

If you have read the posts after your reply, you might have already seen that this contention is quite dubious and shaky. It may indeed be true that counterfeiters aim for the larger denominations of the same currency, but, as it has been revealed, this can be easily overcome by implementing state of the art anti-counterfeiting measures. The 1,000 Swiss frank banknote has the largest denomination as well as purchasing power among major monies out there, but it is 5 times less likely to be counterfeited than the 500 Euro banknote, second in purchasing power. The latter is still less likely to be faked than the 100 US dollar bill, which comes next in purchasing power...

Thereby, given the global nature of today's world, counterfeiters should necessarily aim for the weakest currency (in terms of protection), not the largest denomination (purchasing power) between monies
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September 27, 2015, 09:01:25 PM
#50
The most valuable single banknotes in the world are the S$10,000 note from Singapore (worth around $8,000) and the B$10,000 note from Brunei. Counterfeiting is very very rare in these countries, as the punishments for doing it are extremely harsh. And the S$10,000 note is very frequently used by the Singaporeans, in day to day life.


I wonder what the Singaporeans buy with those huge bills? who in hell spends that much amount of money in a "day to day life"? It must be only a 1% of rich people over there moving that kind of money daily, that's near an entire year salary in some European countries.

Probably a savings currency unit, or used to pay for houses or larger assets.

I dont think necesarly the 1% is using it, business could use it too.
legendary
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September 27, 2015, 06:43:23 PM
#49
The most valuable single banknotes in the world are the S$10,000 note from Singapore (worth around $8,000) and the B$10,000 note from Brunei. Counterfeiting is very very rare in these countries, as the punishments for doing it are extremely harsh. And the S$10,000 note is very frequently used by the Singaporeans, in day to day life.


I wonder what the Singaporeans buy with those huge bills? who in hell spends that much amount of money in a "day to day life"? It must be only a 1% of rich people over there moving that kind of money daily, that's near an entire year salary in some European countries.
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